Why would Canadians support Trump's America First when it means Canada is subservient, NOT an equal partner?

[robosmith]

As previously stated here, Trump kinda shit on Canada by instigating punitive trade rules to protect US companies at Canadian companies' and Canadians' expense.

Why would Canadians back that kind of policy in the US? Self hating? Masochistic?

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

As previously stated here, Trump kinda shit on Canada by instigating punitive trade rules to protect US companies at Canadian companies' and Canadians' expense.

Why would Canadians back that kind of policy in the US? Self hating? Masochistic?

 

Donald does have a way of f**king folks in the arse, and then they cook him breakfast. I do think the appeal is wearing thin.... But the stench is never going to go away 

Edited November 18, 2022 by CrakHoBarbie

[Queenmandy85]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

As previously stated here, Trump kinda shit on Canada by instigating punitive trade rules to protect US companies at Canadian companies' and Canadians' expense.

Why would Canadians back that kind of policy in the US? Self hating? Masochistic?

 

In what way did Canadians back that kind of policy?

[robosmith]

39 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

In what way did Canadians back that kind of policy?

A lot of Canadian posters HERE support Trump.

Of course they have yet to weigh in on THIS THREAD.

Likely cause they are unable to explain this consequence of their support for Trump.

[Queenmandy85]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

A lot of Canadian posters HERE support Trump.

Of course they have yet to weigh in on THIS THREAD.

Likely cause they are unable to explain this consequence of their support for Trump.

Very few Canadians support President Trump. This forum is not a reflection of Canadian society or government policy.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Very few Canadians support President Trump. This forum is not a reflection of Canadian society or government policy.

I never imagined it is. But it is a good place to get their "reasoning" IF they have ANY.

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I never imagined it is. But it is a good place to get their "reasoning" IF they have ANY.

Simple. I can support an ideology, respect the results it produces, AND hope the same ideology makes its way to the PM in Canada. All it takes is a maturity of thought.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Simple. I can support an ideology, respect the results it produces, AND hope the same ideology makes its way to the PM in Canada. All it takes is a maturity of thought.

So you're willing to accept damages done to Canada on the off chance Canada adopts similar damaging to other countries' policies?

Ever heard that "eye for an eye" makes the whole world blind? You fit that well. And that's NOT "maturity of thought," more like the beliefs of a self-centered child. 

[dialamah]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Simple. I can support an ideology, respect the results it produces, AND hope the same ideology makes its way to the PM in Canada. All it takes is a maturity of thought.

Supporting an ideology does not mean giving up all critical thought, hero-worshipping it's leaders or threatening extreme payback on the people who support different ideologies.   That's immaturity of thought.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

So you're willing to accept damages done to Canada on the off chance Canada adopts similar damaging to other countries' policies?

Ever heard that "eye for an eye" makes the whole world blind? You fit that well. And that's NOT "maturity of thought," more like the beliefs of a self-centered child. 

No. Jesus, do you need a picture?

I can respect a foe. It's a good trait to have. Takes maturity though.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

Supporting an ideology does not mean giving up all critical thought, hero-worshipping it's leaders or threatening extreme payback on the people who support different ideologies.   That's immaturity of thought.

What hero worshipping? Don't be simple.

[Rebound]

2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Some Canadians support Trump, the same reason that in Czech Republic you had people with Trump's picture parading the street in some rallies. 

I think people see in him a so called "strong-man" tribal leader, a traditionalist that is fighting to keep tradition against the global forces which are against it. Which is ironic, the only tradition that Donald has in my opinion is the $. 

What is interesting is that this movement is becoming like Marxism, a global movement. This is why you will find people that support Trump gravitate towards authoritarian figures like Xi, Putin. 

The profile of such person is in every country. Is called the right wing populist. In Canada, there is no "charismatic" leader to tap into this block, so you will find a lot will support Trump even though that goes against the national interest of the country that they are in.

If we were to live not in a civilised country -> the correct word would be traitors but we live in Canada, a country has room for all including the sympathisers of another country's populism. 

Don’t you find it ironic that people accept a billionaire who was born into obscene wealth, who flies a private jet, lives in a skyscraper that has his name on the side, dates prostitutes and trades in supermodel gold-digging wife for another… a “populist”? He’s not the solution to the rule of the elites, he IS the elite.  And a disgusting one at that. 

[robosmith]

21 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No. Jesus, do you need a picture?

I can respect a foe. It's a good trait to have. Takes maturity though.

Of course you defend fraudulent. NOT a good trait to have, cause it just PROMOTES fraudulent.

Would you have "respected" Hitler BEFORE he wiped out democracy in Germany? And AFTER?

[herbie]

Masochists. Gotta support an ideology no matter how much it hurts. Cut off their own nose to spite their face as Granma used to say.

And Canada is not all that different than the USA, we have our share of people who are dumb as a hammer here too.

[Nationalist]

26 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Of course you defend fraudulent. NOT a good trait to have, cause it just PROMOTES fraudulent.

Would you have "respected" Hitler BEFORE he wiped out democracy in Germany? And AFTER?

"Those who have met Herr Hitler face to face,” […], “have found a highly competent, cool, well-informed functionary with an agreeable manner, a disarming smile, and few have been unaffected by a subtle personal magnetism.” Hitler and his Nazis had surely shown “their patriotic ardor and love of country.”

Winston Churchill.

grow up.

[robosmith]

50 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

"Those who have met Herr Hitler face to face,” […], “have found a highly competent, cool, well-informed functionary with an agreeable manner, a disarming smile, and few have been unaffected by a subtle personal magnetism.” Hitler and his Nazis had surely shown “their patriotic ardor and love of country.”

Winston Churchill.

grow up.

Are you really trying to compare YOURSELF to WC? 

YOU defend fraudulent and promote fake self-interest at the expense of your nation LIKE A CHILD. No comparison.

“Hitler and His Choice”, Churchill’s Misquoted Words

 

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After narrating Hitler's rise to power, Churchill then examined Hitler's goals and methods which were to "restore Germany to the height of her power in Europe" and "cure the cruel unemployment that afflicted the people."6 Hitler's method was to employ the people by putting them to work for Germany's military rearmament. The "whole available energies of Germany were directed to preparations for war" which included factories, barracks, aviation grounds, schools, colleges, and propaganda.7 While Churchill acknowledged that Hitler's career had been borne "not only by a passionate love of Germany, but by currents of hatred so intense as to sear the souls of those who swim upon them."8 Churchill then pointed to Mein Kampf and Hitler's hatred of the French, Jews, and communists.

Churchill's narration of Hitler in 1935 was one full of awe and caution. Churchill was willing to tell of the injustices suffered by Germany and the "lethargy and folly" of European governments after World War I that opened the door for the rise of someone like Hitler, but Churchill was not willing to ignore Hitler's methods, goals, and hatred.

Buchanan leaves all this out. Instead, he continues to quote other portions of the article:

"Those who have met Herr Hitler face to face," wrote Churchill, "have found a highly competent, cool, well-informed functionary with an agreeable manner, a disarming smile, and few have been unaffected by a subtle personal magnetism." Hitler and his Nazis had surely shown "their patriotic ardor and love of country."9

Here, Buchanan cuts and pastes different portions of the article and merges them together. The description of "meeting Hitler face to face" appears three pages after the description of Hitler and his Nazis' patriotism. Buchanan's aim is to stream together a series of complimentary sounding descriptions of Hitler that give the impression that Churchill did not understand the seriousness of the man.

 

Edited November 18, 2022 by robosmith

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Are you really trying to compare YOURSELF to WC? 

YOU defend fraudulent and promote fake self-interest at the expense of your nation LIKE A CHILD. No comparison.

Lol...you been owned...and you know it...don't ya.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...you been owned...and you know it...don't ya.

Nope. I KNOW you posted WC's words OUT OF CONTEXT. See above.

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...you been owned...and you know it...don't ya.

Looks to me like the "owning" went the other way. 

[Nationalist]

16 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...you been owned...and you know it...don't ya.

The point was...and still is...Churchill "respected" Hitler. He obviously didn't like him or his methods, but he most certainly had "respect" for the man.

It's understandable when children can't fathom or distinguish between "like" and "respect". Unable to understand how a person could "respect" an enemy. We hope our leaders gain such intellect as they mature, so they won't underestimate those foes they will encounter.

Evidently...you've not matured to that point yet. Thus...try to stay away from confrontations. Especially those of a military nature.

[Nationalist]

15 hours ago, dialamah said:

Looks to me like the "owning" went the other way. 

Not at all. But I don't really expect you to understand anything more complex than elementary ideas.

[Nationalist]

19 hours ago, dialamah said:

Supporting an ideology does not mean giving up all critical thought, hero-worshipping it's leaders or threatening extreme payback on the people who support different ideologies.   That's immaturity of thought.

BTW...It might well be a lowering of higher standards, to engage in retribution with glee and zeal. Yet...the illegality of Hunter, his family and the DOJ/FBI...is absolutely necessary to "protect democracy".

Sound familiar?

Enjoy the roasting.

Edited November 19, 2022 by Nationalist

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The point was...and still is...Churchill "respected" Hitler. He obviously didn't like him or his methods, but he most certainly had "respect" for the man.

It's understandable when children can't fathom or distinguish between "like" and "respect". Unable to understand how a person could "respect" an enemy. We hope our leaders gain such intellect as they mature, so they won't underestimate those foes they will encounter.

Evidently...you've not matured to that point yet. Thus...try to stay away from confrontations. Especially those of a military nature.

What I understand is that you DEFEND and (attempt to) ENABLE the indefensible.

Don't really care if you or WC "respected" Hitler. Surely he had great "talent" for doing EVIL THINGS.

Unlike you, that doesn't earn MY RESPECT.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

BTW...It might well be a lowering of higher standards, to engage in retribution with glee and zeal. Yet...the illegality of Hunter, his family and the DOJ/FBI...is absolutely necessary to "protect democracy".

Sound familiar?

Enjoy the roasting.

Hunter hasn't even been charged, let alone convicted by anyone BUT YOU; with your very LOW STANDARDS for what constitutes EVIDENCE.

As you've posted here, you're routinely sure of what WILL happen, and often WRONG. Like that red wave you were SO looking forward to. LMAO

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

What I understand is that you DEFEND and (attempt to) ENABLE the indefensible.

Don't really care if you or WC "respected" Hitler. Surely he had great "talent" for doing EVIL THINGS.

Unlike you, that doesn't earn MY RESPECT.

Boo hoo hoo...child.