85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths

WestCanMan · April 18, 2024

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

The damage we're talking about here (the score if you will) hasn't even been tallied yet. When it is we'll count the ballots see who actually lost and determine who gets the check.

If you ever try to get vaers data from an official website they start off with boilerplate BS about how necessary the jabs were and how many people were saved according to their intentional miscalculations, blah blah blah, then they start talking about the incidence rate of injection-site owwies vs all other kinds of incidents and bigger owwies, as if that's what everyone cares about. "Dr, what are the chances that I'll get an injection site boo-boo? Should I just risk death from the plague instead?"

Info about the existence or non-existence of dead kids will be on p92, but they refer to them by a much less dead-kid sounding term, like "cardiac fatalities in various age groups which will remain under investigation until 2043, if anyone still cares".

A gov't website's covid jab info page is an exercise in wading through horseshit to get to worthless shit on the path to more dishonest shit.

WestCanMan · April 18, 2024

On 11/14/2022 at 7:19 PM, Goddess said:

I don't believe conspiracy theories. I believe the science. I've been following the science since this began and it hasn't been wrong. Not once.

For instance, right from the beginning - the science said these jabs would not stop transmission. ~~Conspiracy theorists~~ [snake-oil addicts] said they would.

Fixed it for ya.

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The science said these jabs would not be safe. Conspiracy theorists said they were 100% safe. That was straight from Albert Bourla's mouth - CEO of Pfizer. I posted his tweet saying it.

Pfizer got one right - I stand corrected.

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The science said vaccinated people would experience waning immunity very quickly. Conspiracy theorists said, 2 jabs and you're good. No, wait - 3 jabs. Oooopsy-doodle, we meant 4. Okay, 5. Probably more. Like for the rest of your life.

Yup, the ol' bait and switch.

"The jabs are safe and effective. Once you're jabbed you don't have to worry about covid, and you don't have to worry about giving it to granny (that last part constituted the "science" behind locking down the unjabbed). As soon as we get enough people jabbed, we will get to herd immunity."

Literally every item on the bill of goods we were sold on turned out to be a lie, but the people who were lied to are the only ones who aren't mad lol.

They say "I bent over and took one for science, but science was slightly incorrect ['science' lied to you and treated you like its baby momma] but I'm one of the lucky ones who never got harmed so I'm really happy about it."

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The science said vaccinated people would experience recurring bouts of covid because the jabs are leaky and non-sterilizing. Conspiracy theorists said if you got jabbed, "The virus STOPS at you."

Therefor, if we keep the unjabbed locked away, we can stop covid...

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The science said the jabs would cause heart attacks and myocarditis. Conspiracy theorists try to cover up the heart attacks and myocarditis.

"So what if some kids died. I'm ok!" - jabber blabber

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The science said healthy children had no risk of covid. Conspiracy theorists said children need to get jabbed.

If there's a civil war to be fought over that one, count me in.

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The science said the elderly and obese were at risk. Conspiracy theorists said we were ALL at grave risk.

Way back in about April or May 2020 that info was rock-solid. Jabbers still don't take it to heart.

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The science said lockdowns would be ineffective and ruin lives. Conspiracy theorists said lockdowns were great.

They were great from their POV. They're evil pieces of crap and they liked seeing people who they didn't agree with being stripped of basic human rights.

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Common sense tells me to question an experimental medical procedure, using a method that had not been perfected, manufactured by companies with billion dollar fines for medical fraud and forced on everyone by holding their careers and livelihoods and civil liberties hostage.

"But it was on CNN and CTV goddammit! How could it be false? It's true by definition! We'll rewrite the dictionary if we have to in order to make it true."

And they literally do do that. Look up "vaccine" or "gain of function research" now.

A bathwater solution qualifies as a vaccine now, and giving a pathogen the ability to infect humans and to be transmissible among us is not giving it a function.

WestCanMan · April 18, 2024

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Soon they'll even have a vaccine for the vaccine.

And you'll get addicted to that one too.

"There was an old lady who swallowed a fly..."

WestCanMan · April 18, 2024

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Spike protein (which we know is the most toxic part of the virus) has been found in breastmilk, yes.

There was a recent study that it was causing gastro-bleeding in infants.

This is why medical ethics usually don't force pregnant women to take experimental drugs.

At the time the jabs were forced on everyone, there was of course - no long-term studies.

Fun experiment, eh?

Leftists say that the best scientific studies are done on millions of pregnant women and children at the same time, as long as they all sign waivers.

eyeball · April 18, 2024

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

And you'll get addicted to that one too.

I meant a vaccine to protect you guys from us. Your jab will be like that treatment for fleas where you need to be bitten for it to work. It is what it is.

CdnFox · April 18, 2024

Just now, eyeball said:

I meant a vaccine to protect you guys from us. Your jab will be like that treatment for fleas where you need to be bitten for it to work. It is what it is.

LOL - wouldn't it just be easier if we came up with something we could jab YOU with that would put you out of our misery?

eyeball · April 19, 2024

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - wouldn't it just be easier if we came up with something we could jab YOU with that would put you out of our misery?

That'll be the day, you people have been shooting your silly mouths off about 2nd Amendment folks for years and notwithstanding the odd fed up mass shooter...it's been like crickets.

CdnFox · April 19, 2024

39 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That'll be the day, you people have been shooting your silly mouths off about 2nd Amendment folks for years and notwithstanding the odd fed up mass shooter...it's been like crickets.

Uhh - this is Canada bud we don't HAVE a 'second amendment' I think you're a little confused. And by 'little' i mean completely.

And wouldn't you do it willingly? the doctors all say it'll save lives. Honest - I've got the receipt!

eyeball · April 19, 2024

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

we don't HAVE a 'second amendment'

...he said wistfully.

Zeitgeist · April 19, 2024

8 hours ago, Goddess said:

I was just reading one man's experience of trying to visit his favourite 97 year old aunt recently. She had denied his visits for the last 4 years, scared silly of the virus.

Well that indicates the psychological impacts of constant media bombardment. Whether or not any of the messaging was true or good, and at least some of it wasn’t, doesn’t change the fact that constantly telling people to behave a certain way and fear behaving otherwise will change behaviour on a mass scale. Comparisons to 1930’s Germany and Orwell’s 1984 apply for sure. And no, that doesn’t mean I’m calling the Liberals Nazis (got it, Eyeball?).

It’s been referred to as mass formation psychosis.

The results are tragic for some who still can’t shed the fear instilled during the pandemic. I don’t think it was worth it.

It’s critically important that people don’t accept that which is contestable as Truth. It’s also important that critical thinking is preserved and encouraged. No crisis makes it acceptable to sacrifice basic human rights, yet we did a bit of that, and we’re still paying for it psychologically and politically.

Moonbox · April 19, 2024

7 hours ago, Goddess said:

Haha 😄

I picked the true experts.

Yeah, you pick the truthiest, most smartest experts...the ones who validate your rage. 🤡

eyeball · April 19, 2024

12 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

And no, that doesn’t mean I’m calling the Liberals Nazis (got it, Eyeball?).

It’s been referred to as mass formation psychosis.

Not by scientists. There isn't a reputable scientific/medical institute or university anywhere on the planet that references that hooey.

And I doubt real Nazis will be any more pleased that you're associating them with retards than when they're being associated with Trudeau.

Zeitgeist · April 19, 2024

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Not by scientists. There isn't a reputable scientific/medical institute or university anywhere on the planet that references that hooey.

And I doubt real Nazis will be any more pleased that you're associating them with retards than when they're being associated with Trudeau.

Mm hm. You do you.

eyeball · April 19, 2024

16 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The results are tragic for some who still can’t shed the fear instilled during the pandemic. I don’t think it was worth it.

You figure millions more dead and who knows how many hospitalized would have been better?

Getting a grip is just way too hard?

6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Mm hm. You do you.

You do some searching for scholarly articles or peer reviewed papers on MFP and let us know how that works.

Zeitgeist · April 19, 2024

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

You figure millions more dead and who knows how many hospitalized would have been better?

Getting a grip is just way too hard?

Go back to your favourite gulag.

WestCanMan · April 19, 2024

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You figure millions more dead and who knows how many hospitalized would have been better?

Having 85% of our population vaxed only increased covid deaths by 30% over 2021, and 24% over 2020 - the year when covid was a novel virus.

You couldn't possibly vax enough Canadians to cause 'millions more covid deaths' here.

Edited April 19, 2024 by WestCanMan

eyeball · April 19, 2024

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Having 85% of our population vaxed only increased covid deaths by 30% over 2021, and 24% over 2020 - the year when covid was a novel virus.

You couldn't possibly vax enough Canadians to cause 'millions more covid deaths' here.

It was always a lost opportunity for you wasn't it? Imagine how much housing could have been freed up if we'd only let 'er rip.

CdnFox · April 19, 2024

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

...he said wistfully.

Well... i mean you're not wrong... But still, we don't have one at the moment so you're still a little confused

CdnFox · April 19, 2024

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You figure millions more dead and who knows how many hospitalized would have been better?

Getting a grip is just way too hard?

The evidence now pretty overwhelmingly point to that woudln't have happened.

Here ya go - sounds like you need it more than him

eyeball · April 19, 2024

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The evidence now pretty overwhelmingly point to that woudln't have happened.

Bullshit. There's no evidence pointing to that at all. You or some crackpot source you subscribe to made that up.

Meanwhile...

COVID misinformation led to at least 2,800 deaths in Canada, $300M in costs: report

https://globalnews.ca/news/9438436/covid-misinformation-deaths-canada-report/

But wait, there's more!

Four years after COVID, misinformation still endangers some Americans...

...Thousands of people across the country are still hospitalized with the disease every week, and some never make it out.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/03/15/covid-misinformation-spreads-4-years-after-pandemic/72896725007/

You of course just post squat.

Moonbox · April 19, 2024

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Bullshit. There's no evidence pointing to that at all. You or some crackpot source you subscribe to made that up

When this muppet references “evidence”, he’s really just referencing his imagination. Nobody is more allergic to citation or references on this cite than him. 🤡

Zeitgeist · April 19, 2024

The impacts of the lockdowns, mandates, and privations are still with us. We didn’t need all this. The vaccines are probably only helpful to a small segment of the population at this point. If you want them, they’re there. Enjoy.

ExFlyer · April 19, 2024

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

The impacts of the lockdowns, mandates, and privations are still with us. We didn’t need all this. The vaccines are probably only helpful to a small segment of the population at this point. If you want them, they’re there. Enjoy.

At this point, it is not a world wide pandemic anymore.

If you want or need them, it is good you can get it.

CdnFox · April 19, 2024

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Bullshit. There's no evidence pointing to that at all. You or some crackpot source you subscribe to made that up.

I love it - you claim there's no evidence and then admit there probably is evidence but dismiss it as 'crackpot'

Way to admit failure out of the gate there big guy

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Meanwhile...

COVID misinformation led to at least 2,800 deaths in Canada, $300M in costs: report

https://globalnews.ca/news/9438436/covid-misinformation-deaths-canada-report/

Sorry - long ago debunked. That's a "private" resaerch group funded by the Canadian gov't. Their numbers and methods simply don't make sense and given their direct funding by the gov't who at the time was trying to say anyone who disagreed with the shots was 'bigoted and misogynistic' it's no surprise.

Here's the actual report, which i know you haven't read.

https://cca-reports.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Report-Fault-Lines-digital.pdf

First off - it's a report explaining why the gov't should do something about "Misinformation" in general. The whole point of it is to jusify laws 'controlling' misinformation.

In the actual covid section they make some pretty serious mistakes. I'll give you the coles notes version but basically they take ONE poll that was done by abacus for some one else, and then use some generalized data and say "it appears that people who not immunized had 36 percent higher chance of dying" and then took the number of unvaccinated and basically multiplied it against that to get the number of 'extra' deaths. But - it doesn't take into account age for example, that people who were in at risk groups tend to get vaccinated more despite misnformation AND tend to die at higher rates than young people. The young people are more likely to be unvaccinated. There are a number of other flaws. It isn't remotely scientific. And the people who 'peer reviewed ' it are mostly not scientists. They're all people with ties to the gov't and a bias.

So basically you found a headline that sounded like it agreed with you and you ran with it - and it doesn't. Sorry

I'll post proof you're wrong in the next post so this doesn't get too long. Don't want moonbox to suffer an annurism readingi it

Zeitgeist · April 19, 2024

31 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

At this point, it is not a world wide pandemic anymore.

If you want or need them, it is good you can get it.

The measures were blunt instruments that didn’t need to be imposed on most people. They should’ve been highly recommended for people of certain ages, weights, and health profiles, certainly after the vaccines became available. In the end the disease had to run through the entire population and the vaccine had only minor impact.

Early on I understand that we didn’t know what we were dealing with. People always had access to available information and could take measures to protect themselves. The excuse of not overwhelming the healthcare system said more about the weakness of our healthcare system than anything else. Were some measures necessary? Of course, but measures should be measured and often the health and other impacts of these measures weren’t properly taken into account. Many people came away feeling that the government was overbearing and extreme. It exposed the carelessness, slowness, and self-preservation of the authorities. Half the population went along and accepted it all. Half questioned the measures any were publicly denigrated for it.

The Emergencies Act really looked bad on the federal government. I think the Trudeau government has done more damage to Canada than any government I’ve learned about in Canadian history. Nevertheless, they influenced enough opinion through media and the bureaucracy to keep half the country on-side, or they did. I think most Canadians want them gone now.

What the pandemic taught me is that the Canadian state is too controlling and its constitutional protections are weak. Government should be minimized and stay in its lane of responsibilities. Our government redistributes money from earners and uses it to have a government program for everything, like it or not. They prop up media, threatening the ability to have a free press. They’ve become beholden to radical left special interest groups that favour some groups over others. It’s really damaged Canada’s brand. Even many US Democrats see it.

Edited April 19, 2024 by Zeitgeist