Russian Army collapsing - the unsurprising failure of a police-state

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well actually it's not a lie as they've admitted the bio-labs exist.

And you think I should grow up...ya...thilly...

It is a lie to claim there are bio WEAPONS labs.
 

Medical research centres  like what every developed country including Canada has are not threats to Russia and not at all what lying Kremlin apologists are referring to. 

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

As this BS plan continues, I figure it'll amount to the end of the EU, and a serious black eye for NATO. Freezing and starving has interesting affects on folks.

That's what you want to have happen, as you've said in your own words.  

The idea that Europe will freeze and starve through the winter is comical. The EU economy is an order of magnitude larger than Russia's and therefore far better equipped to transition through the an east/west decoupling.  You really don't seem to understand the numbers or the economics of scale at work here.  Russia is a pretender.  

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And none of your willingness to sacrifice them, impresses anyone but typical spoiled brats on this side of the pond. 

?
Who are we sacrificing, exactly?  If you're worried about sacrificing, ask how the Russian army feels about being grinded down to pulp to achieve near-nothing.  

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

As for the 2 referendums...

1. 2 referendums and NATO STILL thinks this is a quagmire they need to butt into.

2. Nobody heald a gun to anyone's head. You're being silly.

A referendum under armed occupation is not a referendum.  It's pageantry.  That you think it's anything but is comical.  I actually believed you were smarter than that.  Thanks for clarifying! ?

 

 

Edited November 1, 2022 by Moonbox

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

It is a lie to claim there are bio WEAPONS labs.
 

Medical research centres  like what every developed country including Canada has are not threats to Russia and not at all what lying Kremlin apologists are referring to. 

Did Fauci assure you of that?

[Nationalist]

10 hours ago, Moonbox said:

That's what you want to have happen, as you've said in your own words.  

The idea that Europe will freeze and starve through the winter is comical. The EU economy is an order of magnitude larger than Russia's and therefore far better equipped to transition through the an east/west decoupling.  You really don't seem to understand the numbers or the economics of scale at work here.  Russia is a pretender.  

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Who are we sacrificing, exactly?  If you're worried about sacrificing, ask how the Russian army feels about being grinded down to pulp to achieve near-nothing.  

A referendum under armed occupation is not a referendum.  It's pageantry.  That you think it's anything but is comical.  I actually believed you were smarter than that.  Thanks for clarifying! ?

 

 

Here's another Lying Libbie with no conscience what so ever.

[Nationalist]

13 hours ago, Moonbox said:

That's what you want to have happen, as you've said in your own words.  

The idea that Europe will freeze and starve through the winter is comical. The EU economy is an order of magnitude larger than Russia's and therefore far better equipped to transition through the an east/west decoupling.  You really don't seem to understand the numbers or the economics of scale at work here.  Russia is a pretender.  

?
Who are we sacrificing, exactly?  If you're worried about sacrificing, ask how the Russian army feels about being grinded down to pulp to achieve near-nothing.  

A referendum under armed occupation is not a referendum.  It's pageantry.  That you think it's anything but is comical.  I actually believed you were smarter than that.  Thanks for clarifying! ?

 

 

You're quite welcome.

I'll just keep promoting the truth...

and you can keep denying and lying.

When people start freezing, you'll say their suffering is for a good cause.

and then the EU will begin to crumble...as it already has.

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

You're quite welcome.

I'll just keep promoting the truth...

Yep yep.  Your truthiness and alternative facts are noted.  ?

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

When people start freezing, you'll say their suffering is for a good cause.

and then the EU will begin to crumble...as it already has.

Gosh I wonder how people ever survived before electricity.  They made do, but Europe will freeze because gas is expensive. Mhmm.  

Russia hobbling the EU economy is about as likely as Canada being able to hobble the US, but less so, because the EU was not nearly as integrated with Russia.  Almost 40% of both Russia's exports and imports were EU trade.  In contrast, less than 6% of the EU's trade was with Russia.  Russia was dirt poor to start with. This is going to hurt them more than the EU.  ?

[Boges]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Really? I know several people who would disagree with your self assessment.

And those people would likely be strong Putin supporters I reckon. 

[Boges]

I do actually think Russia blockading Ukraine Exports of Food is in the interest of NATO and the rest of the world. 

I would support NATO escorting these ships through the Black Sea. Turkey would have to play ball though, but they are also part of NATO so. . . 

There are countries that need Ukrainian grain and have no feasible alternative. 

If you think that it should be within Putin's power to starve portions of the world because he can't defeat another nation, you're the problem, not people that support Ukraine's independence. 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Gosh I wonder how people ever survived before electricity.  They made do, but Europe will freeze because gas is expensive. Mhmm.  

 

Interesting. You really don't care.

[Moonbox]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Interesting. You really don't care.

I care more about the Ukrainian cities being shelled than I do about gas prices in Europe.  Yup. 

Fortunately it seems that most of Europe does too!  

We know where you stand and what you care about though! 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

And those people would likely be strong Putin supporters I reckon. 

That's why people like you should never come to any power. You have zero ability to think any other way but linearly.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

That's why people like you should never come to any power. You have zero ability to think any other way but linearly.

Or any other leader of a Western Democracy? Because my view is largely the status quo. 

But continue to think the likes of China, Syria and North Korea really know what's up. 

Edited November 1, 2022 by Boges

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, Boges said:

Or any other leader of a Western Democracy? Because my view is largely the status quo. 

But continue to think the likes of China, Syria and North Korea really know what's up. 

I've never claimed anything of the sort about Chine, Syria or NK.

Nor have I claimed any "support" for either Putin or Zelinsky.

And that's my point. You Libbies lack intellect.

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I've never claimed anything of the sort about Chine, Syria or NK.

As already pointed out to you. Those are the only nations that actually consider the referendum somehow legit. 

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Nor have I claimed any "support" for either Putin or Zelinsky.

Yet you believe Putin's propaganda. 

I bet you think blockading Ukrainian grain is warranted. 

 

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And that's my point. You Libbies lack intellect.

Says the dude who keeps saying the same tripe over and over again. 

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, Boges said:

As already pointed out to you. Those are the only nations that actually consider the referendum somehow legit. 

Yet you believe Putin's propaganda. 

I bet you think blockading Ukrainian grain is warranted. 

 

Says the dude who keeps saying the same tripe over and over again. 

Oh...whatever.

Putin's propaganda? I can't even read Russian.

No actually...I don't.

I keep saying it, because you keep exhibiting linear thinking.

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Oh...whatever.

Putin's propaganda? I can't even read Russian.

No actually...I don't.

I keep saying it, because you keep exhibiting linear thinking.

Please expand on that "linear thinking" hypothesis. 

[Moonbox]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Putin's propaganda? I can't even read Russian.

Ooooh!  Okay then!  Russia can't translate, I suppose?  

What were we thinking???

[Nationalist]

Just now, Boges said:

Please expand on that "linear thinking" hypothesis. 

I don't like Zelinsky...so I MUST like Putin.

I agree with the SCOTUS decision on Roe...so I MUST be against all abortion.

Linear thinking. Like...a dog perhaps...

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Moonbox said:

Ooooh!  Okay then!  Russia can't translate, I suppose?  

What were we thinking???

you weren't.

[Moonbox]

24 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I don't like Zelinsky...so I MUST like Putin

Please explain this.  

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Did Fauci assure you of that?

The entire sane world did. Have you found Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate or the original copy of the alien autopsy video yet?  

[BeaverFever]

Kremlin Kancel Kulture strikes again!  I suppose they’ll also need to invent a fake news a story about a male prostitute, Republicans got them covered!

 

Russian lawmaker who called for end to Putin's war is comatose in hospital after claims 'he was attacked at parliament building' and suffered 'unfortunate fall'
 

• Anatoly Karpov, 71, in a coma in hospital after suffering head injuries at weekend 
• Karpov, an MP, was known as Putin loyalist but had called for end to Ukraine war
• Conflicting reports suggested he had either been beaten leaving Russia's parliament building, had suffered a domestic incident, or had fallen over 
• He is just the latest in a long line of Russian elites to meet unfortunate fates since  Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine in February

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11376515/Russian-lawmaker-called-end-Ukraine-war-coma-falling.html

Edited November 1, 2022 by BeaverFever

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Please explain this.  

Go fck urself.

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

The entire sane world did. Have you found Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate or the original copy of the alien autopsy video yet?  

Lol...no did you?

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Go fck urself.

Quit telling us one thing, after saying the other.  At least stand by your own words.  ?