Did someone say..........................bitcoin?

[Jack9000]

On 9/16/2022 at 3:08 AM, Moonbox said:

Get the freaking pipelines built already.  If Pierre does nothing but that as Prime Minister, he'll have accomplished more than Trudeau ever did.  

not getting a pipeline to eastern canada done. and he knows it

[herbie]

Oh Jeez there's a gas pipeline being built here right now, there's the final steps of an oil pipe underway in Burnaby where I grew up. There's another in Alberta that's built but the Yanks won't turn it on.

And that's it!

If you know some miraculous way to convince people to build more then spit it out, no one else can.
You sure as hell won't be slopping oil around the Northern Coast or pumping highly poisonous thinners through virgin forests, rivers and our backyards without our approval.

People can deny all they want, anything new will take decades to build and it's already too late we missed the boat on exports to other than the USA.

[August1991]

22 hours ago, Army Guy said:

It was irresponsible for a future party leader to say that, and he should be called out.

Agreed. Well said.

[Dougie93]

23 hours ago, Army Guy said:

It was irresponsible for a future party leader to say that, and he should be called out. 

called out by whom ?

your buddies the Liberals & NDP ?

or is there some other nanny state responsible for running every aspect of Canadians lives that I'm not aware of ?

[Army Guy]

17 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

called out by whom ?

your buddies the Liberals & NDP ?

or is there some other nanny state responsible for running every aspect of Canadians lives that I'm not aware of ?

Taxpayers that's who, every politician is a public figure and should be held accountable for their failures as well as their successes. The entire bitcoin thing is not for the nation, and not those that can NOT afford unstable investments in today's economy, suggesting it was irresponsible. 

Yes, becasue I have a long history of supporting both, WTF, 

You don't have to agree with it, those are my words and i stand behind them, His bitcoin stance is out in left field. Unless your appointed commander and chief of criticism for the conservative party. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, Army Guy said:

Taxpayers that's who, every politician is a public figure and should be held accountable for their failures as well as their successes. The entire bitcoin thing is not for the nation, and not those that can NOT afford unstable investments in today's economy, suggesting it was irresponsible. 

Yes, becasue I have a long history of supporting both, WTF, 

You don't have to agree with it, those are my words and i stand behind them, His bitcoin stance is out in left field. Unless your appointed commander and chief of criticism for the conservative party. 

it's no more out of left field than what the Bank of Canada is doing

creating hundreds of billions of dollars out of thin air to fund runaway government spending

that's not sustainable neither

I wouldn't hold any bitcoin myself

but making Canada the block chain capital of the world ?

I have no quarrel with that, although good luck taking that title from the Americans

I will however accept the appointment as Commander-in-Chief of Criticism for the Conservative Party tho

Pipe Major, sound the regimental march

[Army Guy]

22 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh Jeez there's a gas pipeline being built here right now, there's the final steps of an oil pipe underway in Burnaby where I grew up. There's another in Alberta that's built but the Yanks won't turn it on.

And that's it!

If you know some miraculous way to convince people to build more then spit it out, no one else can.
You sure as hell won't be slopping oil around the Northern Coast or pumping highly poisonous thinners through virgin forests, rivers and our backyards without our approval.

People can deny all they want, anything new will take decades to build and it's already too late we missed the boat on exports to other than the USA.

The liberal party has put more bills in place that make it almost impossible to build any infra structure let alone pipelines...

The PM can get anything done if he has a majority, why is that so complicated to understand, Liberals have passed shit bills just on that premise.

Thats the problem he does not need your approval, there are procedures that allow the feds to jam a pipeline up your rectum if it wants, all it takes is a few bills a poof you've got Bittium flowing out your ears.

So, what, the world is not going to lose a taste for fossil fuels any time soon, this decade or decades after what is it you object to, is it all the jobs it would create, or the fact we could be using Canadian oil to run Canadian machines, or you don't like the idea of other nations converting from coal to LP, or is it you like to watch major spills on rail lines, like the one in Quebec, or the amount of fuel that is burned by shipping it by rail and truck to get it to market. It only makes sense to a liberal to spend 2 bucks to make a dollar. 

Until we discover the next great source of energy and get its infra structure built it is never too late.  

 

 

[Dougie93]

42 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Yes, becasue I have a long history of supporting both, WTF,

you think this is Marquis of Queensbury rules ?

that when you criticize your side in good faith

the Liberals & NDP are going to do the same ?

that's not how it works

they will call you a "Nazi", while you take issue with the Conservative party

I don't even support the Conservative party

but anyone who does is a fool to give the Liberals & NDP any ammunition at all

because they will show you no quarter at all

you criticize Poilievre in any way, they're just going to pounce on that and run with it

this is American style gutter fighting now, don't be naive

the entire Liberal establishment with the whole media is going to pile on

do you want to win, or not ?

this is not a fair fight

you are in a tight jam

don't give the enemy any aid nor comfort

Edited September 18, 2022 by Dougie93

[Army Guy]

I play by my rules, where black is black and white is white, with no shades of grey. I call them how i see them, I also have faith that the Conservative party is not as fragile as you might suggest and can take any and all the criticism given. What does not kill us will make us stronger. 

And i don't care how the left conducts themselves, just my own. And I'm sure there are those on the left that also call out all sides when it is required for a little balance. 

I have called out both sides for most of their faults, Everyday i read "Never pass a fault" in the Lobby in 2 RCR one of the many ethos the Regiment has to guide its warriors.  It is a lifelong mission and a long hard road to follow them to the letter, i hope one day to live up to them all. 

I ask for no Quarter, nor do i expect it. 

 

 

 

 

[herbie]

40 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

The PM can get anything done if he has a majority, why is that so complicated to understand, Liberals have passed shit bills just on that premise.

Except build a pipeline if the population is against him. Half his detractors in BC are because he approved just one. The North Coast tanker ban has overwhelming support here, they're shitting bricks over 3 new tankers a week in Southern BC.
Just try these days to add one pipeline East without Quebec being onboard or the absurd notion of one in the North that will get locals to support.

The gas line has enough trouble with protesters marching about "supporting" what they don't know is ONE clan of ONE band when the whole native group approved it.

Once again, I must point out all the whining over the usual clan bawling that Trudeau is a dictator while what they really want is a a dictator who will do things that they like regardless of public support.

At least Mussolini made the trains run on time... right?

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

it's no more out of left field than what the Bank of Canada is doing

creating hundreds of billions of dollars out of thin air to fund runaway government spending

that's not sustainable neither

I wouldn't hold any bitcoin myself

but making Canada the block chain capital of the world ?

I have no quarrel with that, although good luck taking that title from the Americans

I will however accept the appointment as Commander-in-Chief of Criticism for the Conservative Party tho

Pipe Major, sound the regimental march

I agree 100 %, they are following whatever the government is telling them to do, and the flashing red light means spend, spend and spend some more. which is why we need to be cautious where all our finances are concerned, taking risks now is not a smart move.  

we all need to have some balance now; we are stuck in this world that has tilted too far to the left.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

 

we all need to have some balance now; we are stuck in this world that has tilted too far to the left.

it's too late for that

this is global

it's everywhere

every central bank on earth has printed themselves into a corner

this is going to be a crash, on an unprecedented scale in human history

[Dougie93]

25 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

which is why we need to be cautious where all our finances are concerned, taking risks now is not a smart move. 

Canada is just a passenger

this is exponentially outside of Canada's control

we're talking about a financial crisis

which will dwarf the one that caused the Great Depression, by orders of magnitude

that crash incited the Second World War

I'm not saying there will be a conventional war like that in the wake of this coming crash

because of the hydrogen bomb

none the less, we are talking a potential hegemonic succession on that scale or greater

the whole world as we have known it, wiped out in an epoch

Edited September 18, 2022 by Dougie93

[Army Guy]

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

Except build a pipeline if the population is against him. Half his detractors in BC are because he approved just one. The North Coast tanker ban has overwhelming support here, they're shitting bricks over 3 new tankers a week in Southern BC.
Just try these days to add one pipeline East without Quebec being onboard or the absurd notion of one in the North that will get locals to support.

The gas line has enough trouble with protesters marching about "supporting" what they don't know is ONE clan of ONE band when the whole native group approved it.

Once again, I must point out all the whining over the usual clan bawling that Trudeau is a dictator while what they really want is a a dictator who will do things that they like regardless of public support.

At least Mussolini made the trains run on time... right?

I'm not suggesting any more lines through BC, although they were jumping up and down when it came to building a multi-billion LP refinery...I was referring to building pipelines and refineries to refine Bittium, to drive fossil fuels prices down, and stop the very imports of foreign oil which will go on until we find the next source of energy, and since no one is really in a hurry to do that then ya , fossil fuels are here to stay for a long time. 

Conservative support in Quebec is not that high to start with, but nothing that could not be solved with money... like the last pipeline in BC. And Quebec loves free money including the environmentalist. 

Protest can be handled by the police, it is a local matter, or RCMP, can't protest if your always in court, or jail. 

Stay focused I'm not the guy calling Justin a dictator, maybe a wingnut, but dictator no, I've seen real dictators up close, and we don't have one here. What we are discussing is not what the people wants but what is in the best interest of the country and our economy that desperately needs a restart what a better way than start building our infra structure. 

There are those that will scream at their top of their lungs about climate change, or making a difference globally, having the ability to sell LP gases to nations that still have coal fired plants and this will include most of Europe, not to mention Chian, India etc would make a much larger contribution to global climate change than anything Justin has in mind.  And we don't have to pay dictators for their oil.