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7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the greatest reason not to have fealty to the contemporary Canadian nationalism

is that it is all based on insecurity

it's not about being a proud, confident Canada, it's not the Vimy Myth anymore

it's about being a fearful Canada,  wanting to be a hermit kingdom

that's nothing that I have any interest in joining

I agree, but then we have to stop electing petty tyrant fops.  We spend a fortune maintaining all sorts of “Canadian” regulatory bodies, but much of it is basically US standards with a maple leaf and all sorts of cultural protections that often make programming expensive and less interesting.  Not always.  Lots to love about Canadian content.  I just don’t think we need to subsidize or protect it with regulations anymore.  It stands on its own merit.  If it doesn’t then it’s usually not worth much.  What the Liberals are trying to do controlling the internet is gross.  We see this across industries with our high cell phone charges and lack of competition.  They create maybe two strong Canadian companies that then share the business like monopolies.  What’s the point?  We need free markets and wide open competition.  

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12 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I agree, but then we have to stop electing petty tyrant fops.  We spend a fortune maintaining all sorts of “Canadian” regulatory bodies, but much of it is basically US standards with a maple leaf and all sorts of cultural protections that often make programming expensive and less interesting.  Not always.  Lots to love about Canadian content.  I just don’t think we need to subsidize or protect it with regulations anymore.  It stands on its own merit.  If it doesn’t then it’s usually not worth much.  What the Liberals are trying to do controlling the internet is gross.  We see this across industries with our high cell phone charges and lack of competition.  They create maybe two strong Canadian companies that then share the business like monopolies.  What’s the point?  We need free markets and wide open competition.  

Canada is an noncompetitive protectionist enterprise unto itself

protecting Canadian monopolies is literally all Canada is about

culture is destiny

I can't waste anymore time waiting for Canada to take flight

I'm just getting on with my life

moving on

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41 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

  Lots to love about Canadian content.

Republicans certainly have come around to it

the Truckers of course, are heroic figures

Jordan Peterson is the Marshall McLuhan of his age

Gad Saad, David Freiheit, Ezra Levant, all getting lots of play in America now

you can make a career in America being a Canadian conservative all of a sudden

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On 9/23/2022 at 2:54 PM, -TSS- said:

Life goes on. 

Remarkable really how fast after Monday the Queen's death has disappeared from the headlines. It's old news. Back to Ukraine and the cost of living-crisis. 

There will always be some that talk about it, just like there are always ones that keep the long gone trucker convoy alive.

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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

  What’s the point? 

as I say, you have to adopt the ethos of the immigrants

they are not here to fix Canada

Canada is not a republic, so they are not responsible for that

the immigrants just work for their families,

mingle amongst themselves,

and generally ignore Canada in the background

all you get to vote for is an MP

after that, your influence is at an end, in Canada

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On 9/24/2022 at 3:24 PM, -TSS- said:

Charles is not going to make it to his mother's age but you will have to put up with him at least 10 years. 


Save for some evil chance, Charles could easily see another twenty years. His father also lived to a great age. 

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On 9/25/2022 at 2:26 PM, Dougie93 said:

Republicans certainly have come around to it

the Truckers of course, are heroic figures

Jordan Peterson is the Marshall McLuhan of his age

Gad Saad, David Freiheit, Ezra Levant, all getting lots of play in America now

you can make a career in America being a Canadian conservative all of a sudden

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I wonder if Poilievre can redefine Canada on the scale of Pierre Trudeau, but in the direction of “world’s freest democracy.”   Strengthen the Constitutional rights, deregulate resource and energy, weaken the CRTC for cell phone and cable competition, strengthen the military, expand trade beyond China and the US, restore national pride over the excessive far left narratives about colonial oppression, that kind of stuff.

J.T.‘s Canada feels like a puppet dictatorship of Davos internationalists.

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4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I wonder if Poilievre can redefine Canada on the scale of Pierre Trudeau, but in the direction of “world’s freest democracy.”   Strengthen the Constitutional rights, deregulate resource and energy, weaken the CRTC for cell phone and cable competition, strengthen the military, expand trade beyond China and the US, restore national pride over the excessive far left narratives about colonial oppression, that kind of stuff.

I foresee a global catastrophe on an unprecedented scale

we are in the death throes

a complete & total financial & economic collapse

 then the National Socialists will rise again

except not just in one country, but in every Western country at the same time

Marshal McLuhan's Third World War

that kind of stuff

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4 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I foresee a global catastrophe on an unprecedented scale

we are in the death throes

a complete & total financial & economic collapse

 then the National Socialists will rise again

except not just in one country, but in every Western country at the same time

Marshal McLuhan's Third World War

that kind of stuff

Well I doubt that there’s a rising movement to rescind human rights from the grassroots.  I actually think it’s the opposite.  The big threat to humanity isn’t from the bottom; it’s from the central planners at the top.  They want to control human behaviour to solve “global crises.”  The threat to human freedom is less the “crisis” itself but the top down response to it.  The pandemic response has in some ways destroyed our societies.  People are not as mentally, emotionally, or socially healthy as they used to be.  People are also dying more often and at a younger age for whatever reason.   Perhaps it’s the inability to do basic things like see a doctor in person.  A financial crisis is at least partly a result of the pandemic response and irresponsible overspending.

Watch out for the top down fixes for a financial crisis, which might include forms of universal basic income tied to behaviour and digital social credit systems.  The Chinese and other totalitarian regimes want this.  Trudeau seems to want this.  The World Economic Forum Great Reset self-proclaimed saviours want this.

The death throes you describe are I think mostly the sense that we have lost our basic morality.  The family unit, social bonds, and the planks of our democracy such as the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, have been under attack.  I’ve never seen such a mass psychosis.  It’s incredible what fear can do to people — fear of a virus, fear of climate change, etc.  If we lose our bedrock values, all can be easily swept away.  In that regard I agree that this feels a bit like the Weimar Republic.  The population are generally ignorant of their history.   They’re fed a steady diet of Tic Toc pablum and fear about our safety.

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On 9/25/2022 at 6:29 PM, Zeitgeist said:

Well I would be interested in a revised union with the US where Canadian and American citizens could live and work in both countries.  I’m okay with keeping the border as a security checkpoint.  I just don’t want to see Canada become some Puerto Rico type protectorate without representation.  Better to be masters of our own destiny, even if it’s already compromised.  Also, American violence and homicide rates are a worry, especially if shit hits the fan.  

I used to have the option to work in 27 different European nations until a bunch of liars convinced a bunch of fools that choice is a bad thing.

 

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1 hour ago, Iceni warrior said:

I used to have the option to work in 27 different European nations until a bunch of liars convinced a bunch of fools that choice is a bad thing.

 

I felt the same disappointment when Brexit was enacted, but Britain wanted to be in control of its own house without sending so much money to Brussels and accepting their federal decisions.  It’s probably better if you want to maintain British power and culture.  It’s worse if you want to live and work in other countries.  I tend more towards the latter until the shit hits the fan, as in a pandemic.  

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5 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The big threat to humanity isn’t from the bottom; it’s from the central planners at the top.

Oh, well there's nothing you can do about that...I mean people who are governed number around 38 million compared to the 800000 or so who work for governments in Canada.

Yup, we don't stand a chance.

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46 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Oh, well there's nothing you can do about that...I mean people who are governed number around 38 million compared to the 800000 or so who work for governments in Canada.

Yup, we don't stand a chance.

I know you’re being sarcastic but I don’t think it’s as easy to push back, hold government accountable, or change policy as you think, unless it’s within the band of adding regulations.  

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20 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I know you’re being sarcastic but I don’t think it’s as easy to push back, hold government accountable, or change policy as you think, unless it’s within the band of adding regulations.  

Don't forget there's also millions of Canadians who really don't want our governments to be held accountable. Apparently accountability makes it too hard to get things done or something.

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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Don't forget there's also millions of Canadians who really don't want our governments to be held accountable. Apparently accountability makes it too hard to get things done or something.

Back to your in-camera lobbying ban.  I don’t oppose it.  I just don’t think it’s a silver bullet.  The back room is eternal.  That’s why you have to get at the influencers, the G Butts of the world, the WEF creepers, etc.  I don’t trust the various unelected entourages and handlers.  

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Back to your in-camera lobbying ban.  I don’t oppose it.  I just don’t think it’s a silver bullet.  The back room is eternal.  That’s why you have to get at the influencers, the G Butts of the world, the WEF creepers, etc.  I don’t trust the various unelected entourages and handlers.  

I don't think I it's silver but I definitely think it's a bullet.

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9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 

Watch out for the top down fixes for a financial crisis, which might include forms of universal basic income tied to behaviour and digital social credit systems.  The Chinese and other totalitarian regimes want this.  Trudeau seems to want this.  The World Economic Forum Great Reset self-proclaimed saviours want this.

that's not going to work

once the cascading sovereign debt defaults commence and governments go insolvent

gold becomes the currency of last resort

the debt based economy implodes into a financial black hole

millions of people are thrown into the streets, bankrupt, homeless, unable to feed their children

next comes rage, incandescent rage

out of that void, National Socialism will rise

they may not call themselves the National Socialist Workers Party

but it will be something like that ; the Workers Socialist National Party

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6 hours ago, Iceni warrior said:

I used to have the option to work in 27 different European nations until a bunch of liars convinced a bunch of fools that choice is a bad thing.

 

The choice the fools wanted was the choice to decide who entered and lived in their country. That, and not economic reasons, was why Brexit succeeded. It was a rebellion of ordinary people against the elites.

Mind, they still don't have that choice. Britain is, like Canada and the US, hamstrung by its own laws and by the week, ineffective government being unable or unwilling to change them. Essentially, almost everyone who crosses the border can stay.

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9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 In that regard I agree that this feels a bit like the Weimar Republic. 

except it is everywhere now

every central bank on earth

we are all the Weimar Republics now

one after the next, the governments will fall

then once again, it will fall to America, to save the world

ever the last bulwark against the forces of darkness

God's chosen people, New Jerusalem

 

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2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

orly ?

what just happened during the pandemic ?

that was just a tittle taste of how the masses react in a crisis

I meant that I don’t think the people on the bottom want to see human rights removed.  It’s coming from the elites who are best positioned to find loopholes.  

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8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I meant that I don’t think the people on the bottom want to see human rights removed.

and I mean that they do

in a crisis, the people clamber for authoritarian invention

only the truly resolute resist the impulse

the vast majority of people will choose safety over liberty and end up with neither

thus why a land of the free must be a home of the brave

 

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4 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

and I mean that they do

in a crisis, the people clamber for authoritarian invention

only the truly resolute resist the impulse

the vast majority of people will choose safety over liberty and end up with neither

thus why a land of the free must be a home of the brave

 

The challenge in the US is that there are two Americas diametrically opposed.  The hard Republicans don’t think Biden won the election and they think that Biden is behind the attack on Nordstream pipeline.  The hard Democrats think Trump is a criminal who tried to usurp a democratically elected government.  On policy the Dems are destroying the fabric of society with the insane war on biological gender, natural reproduction, merit-based hiring, etc.  To me they are losing the culture war big time.   The Republicans have their own nut jobs to keep at bay, but the spectrum has to shift right in Canada just to get us back to centre.  

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