Biden the Uniter...

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Rebound said:

 

Primary Sources prove this:

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

 

Certainly the Southern Democrats wanted to preserve slavery as long as it turned a profit. For how long that was going to last is up for debate. The Royal Navy was very aggressive in taking down any remaining slave ships to the Americas by 1860. So for every load of slaves that made it to Charleston or New Orleans etc...many others were intercepted.

[ironstone]

40 minutes ago, Rebound said:

That’s just a lot of long-winded excuse making for the plain simple truth: The “government overreach” you speak of was slavery. It can be clearly seen by reading the resolutions the State legislatures passed in deciding to join the Confederacy.

There has been 150 years of revisionist history writing trying to make the Confederacy and its leaders seem noble, and trying to make slavery seem benevolent and kind. It’s all lies. Slavery was incredibly cruel and evil and it was the sole reason why the South fought the Civil War. 

Of course slavery was cruel and evil but whites were not the only participants in it. 

There is always more blame laid on the West for slavery but the left seems to forget the enormous effort of those who fought so hard to end the practice. The British and Americans(mostly Republicans).

 

[Rebound]

37 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Certainly the Southern Democrats wanted to preserve slavery as long as it turned a profit. For how long that was going to last is up for debate. The Royal Navy was very aggressive in taking down any remaining slave ships to the Americas by 1860. So for every load of slaves that made it to Charleston or New Orleans etc...many others were intercepted.

Importation of slaves into the US ended in 1808

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Of course slavery was cruel and evil but whites were not the only participants in it. 

There is always more blame laid on the West for slavery but the left seems to forget the enormous effort of those who fought so hard to end the practice. The British and Americans(mostly Republicans).

Exactly! I agree!

Slavery was horrible, and these people trying to glorify Confederate generals are all wicked white supremacists.

[DogOnPorch]

7 hours ago, Rebound said:

Importation of slaves into the US ended in 1808

 

Uh...no. The slaver ship Clotilda was the last US registered ship to transport slaves to America...that was in 1860 as I mentioned earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_slave_ships

 

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Uh...no. The slaver ship Clotilda was the last US registered ship to transport slaves to America...that was in 1860 as I mentioned earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_slave_ships

 

That’s just horrible. Of all the ways someone can make a living, how can they choose that… and then think of themselves as Christian? Unbelievable. 

[ironstone]

12 hours ago, Rebound said:

Exactly! I agree!

Slavery was horrible, and these people trying to glorify Confederate generals are all wicked white supremacists.

I'm on the side that would leave those statues up and actually let people learn about the real history of the person or persons. The bad and the good.

I totally disagree that everyone that wants a statue of Robert E. Lee to remain standing can be automatically categorized as a wicked white supremacist either.

Given the clear evidence of what statues have been removed/vandalized by woke mobs it's obvious that they have little knowledge of history. They seem pretty weak minded if they can be such obvious useful idiots.

Clueless Protesters Demonstrate Horrible Grasp on History by Defacing Statue of Abolitionist (westernjournal.com)

How about the fact that there were also slave owners in the US that happened to be black? It must be pointed out that the slave trade in Africa depended on heavily on blacks willfully selling other blacks into slavery.

 

[Rebound]

10 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I'm on the side that would leave those statues up and actually let people learn about the real history of the person or persons. The bad and the good.

I totally disagree that everyone that wants a statue of Robert E. Lee to remain standing can be automatically categorized as a wicked white supremacist either.

Given the clear evidence of what statues have been removed/vandalized by woke mobs it's obvious that they have little knowledge of history. They seem pretty weak minded if they can be such obvious useful idiots.

Clueless Protesters Demonstrate Horrible Grasp on History by Defacing Statue of Abolitionist (westernjournal.com)

How about the fact that there were also slave owners in the US that happened to be black? It must be pointed out that the slave trade in Africa depended on heavily on blacks willfully selling other blacks into slavery.

 

And we should take down any statues honoring black slavers or slave orders or Confederates, or at least move them from places of honor in front of courthouses and into the corners of museums somewhere.