First a trickle....Now a flood

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, User said:

We both know why. 

Yes.  You're lazy.  Or stupid.  Or both.

I think there's a thread somewhere here for forum help where you can ask how to use a search bar.  I'm sure someone will help you out.

Good luck!

[Goddess]

I got rid of my airplane spoons when my kids grew up.

Sorry.

[User]

Over 80 studies! 

But can't name even one you think is the best... 

 

[Goddess]

Look. 

Here's the thing.

I believe what I believe about Ivermectin because I've read almost all of those 87 studies (and the ones paid for by Pfizer that say otherwise) and I've looked at the datasets from countries that used it like El Salvador, Peru, Mexico and Uttar Pradesh.  I've looked at the success front-line covid docs had with it in the US.  I had a prescription for IVM when I was traveling the world because that's what my doctor gave me to help with almost any illness I might have encountered.  It won a Nobel prize for human medicine in 2015 and is on the WHO's list of must-have medicines.

You believe Ivermectin is "horsepaste" because the CBC told you so.

We're not on the same intellectual level.

If you want to get yourself up to speed on the topics I mentioned to you before, I'm happy to engage with you.

Everyone here knows you're full of shit when you claim I haven't posted plenty of info on IVM.

At this point, you're like an over-tired toddler demanding mommy help you with your socks.  And I ain't your mommy.

Either you're a big boy now.

Or you're a toddler.

Use the search bar.

Or don't.

Good night.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You believe Ivermectin is "horsepaste" because the CBC told you so.

You are just making crap up. I never called it "horsepaste"

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

We're not on the same intellectual level.

I agree 100%. 

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Everyone here knows you're full of shit when you claim I haven't posted plenty of info on IVM.

I made no such claim. I asked you to give me your best study. 

Your arguments are surface level deep conspiratorial nonsense. You refuse to give me an example, because you know it will be easily picked apart... if you can even find an actual reputable study to support your claims. 

No, it is far easier for you to just make the vague assertion that you have over 80 studies and never have to actually defend any of it. 

 

[Goddess]

@WestCanMan has posted some really good information on IVM, too.

When you figure how to use a search bar, you read his posts, as well.

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, User said:

I asked you to give me your best study. 

This is how I know you're not serious.  It's not about one study.  That's not science.  That's cherry-picking.

It's a preponderance of the evidence - studies, datasets, real world use - and it's all here. 

Just waiting for you to learn how to use the search bar.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This is how I know you're not serious.  It's not about one study.  That's not science.  That's cherry-picking.

It's a preponderance of the evidence - studies, datasets, real world use - and it's all here. 

Just waiting for you to learn how to use the search bar.

Yeah... I am allowing YOU to cherry pick your best example. This is all in your favor. 

But hey, if your big complaint is that providing me your best example is not fair, OK, give me your top 5 then. 

I can use a search bar just fine, give me some key words to search for 

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, User said:

you are playing the woman card?

Just curious......then, what makes you believe so strongly that I have to obey you, do your bidding and spoon feed you information that's already been posted here?

[Goddess]

8 hours ago, User said:

give me some key words to search for 

Oh wow. 😮

You're a special kind of stupid.

Maybe........search Ivermectin?  The medical abbreviation IVM?

Do you also need help getting dressed today, little boy?  Is your mommy around? Do you see an adult around you that you can ask for help?

Holy fuque.

 

[Goddess]

Ex-NYC COVID czar Jay Varma fired from job after sex-party scandal (nypost.com)

“Varma boasted about harassing people into submission over the vaccine mandate and admitted to participating in illegal sex parties, all while he, former Health Commissioner Dr. David Chokshi, and then-Mayor Bill de Blasio imposed draconian measures that shut down the entire city,” the Queens Democrat said.

“The hypocrisy is outrageous.”

Varma’s seamy chats — which included him boasting, “I did all this deviant, like sexual stuff,” and, “I had to be kind of sneaky about it … because I was running the entire COVID response in the city” — were made public last week by conservative podcaster Steven Crowder.

His firing came as enraged city business owners and parents joined lawmakers on the steps of City Hall on Monday to rally against the randy doctor, saying that while they were masking up, keeping their kids home from school and taking other precautionary measures against deadly COVID — under his instruction — he was getting up close and personal with throngs of people.

“While grandmothers took their last breaths alone on cold hospital beds, Dr. Varma was fulfilling his sick fantasies with hundreds of sweaty strangers,” city Councilwoman Inna Vernikov (R-Brooklyn) raged.

"They never, ever, ever told us it was 100% effective."

Uh-huh  🙄

 

 

[User]

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

Just curious......then, what makes you believe so strongly that I have to obey you, do your bidding and spoon feed you information that's already been posted here?

You seem confused. This is a discussion forum. You post things in the public where people not only can disagree or comment on them, but it should be expected they will. 

You keep posting about how you have 80+ studies to back you up... I am asking you to provide one. (Sorry, provide as many as you like if 1 is "cherry picking" LOL)

I am no more strongly insisting you do that than you are here insisting people believe you that Ivermectin is a good treatment for COVID. 

 

[User]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Oh wow. 😮

You're a special kind of stupid.

Maybe........search Ivermectin?  The medical abbreviation IVM?

Do you also need help getting dressed today, little boy?  Is your mommy around? Do you see an adult around you that you can ask for help?

Holy fuque.

 

No, stupid is thinking that Ivermectin is a treatment for COVID. Dishonest is claiming you have 80+ studies but you can't actually cite one of them. 

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, User said:

Yeah... I am allowing YOU to cherry pick your best example. This is all in your favor. 

Ivermectin: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9823263/

• Despite community vaccination against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and reduced mortality, there are still challenges in treatment options for the disease. Due to the continuous mutation of SARS-CoV-2 virus and the emergence of new strains, diversity in the use of existing antiviral drugs to combat the epidemic has become a crucial therapeutic chance. As a broad-spectrum antiparasitic and antiviral drug, ivermectin has traditionally been used to treat many types of disease, including DNA and RNA viral infections.

FYI the possibility that ivermectin could fight covid was never a joke.

Let me ask you, what was the reason for the vax rollout, User? Was it to "stop people from dying"? Yes, it was.

Did it stop people from dying in Canada? No it did not.

We jabbed 86% of Canadians in 2021 and we had the most covid deaths ever, by far, in 2022, with 4x-vaxed people suffering worse than any other group. The covid jab simply DID NOT WORK and then the MSM just stopped talking about covid deaths.

Ivermectin was broadly used in Uttar Pradesh (240M people) and what happened? People stopped dying at an inexplicable rate compared to other regions. Was that a success? No?

The criticism of ivermectin actually appearing to work there was "correlation is not causation", but why do we need an excuse for the jab not working in Canada? And what was the official excuse, anyways? "No success is proof of success"? 

No excuse was actually given, the MSM simply stopped talking about covid deaths even though they went sky-high. 30% higher than 2021. 

Vax-apologists like to pretend that "It took a massive increase in the number of infections for the number of deaths to go up", but didn't we force people to take the vax because it theoretically slowed the spread? "You can't give granny covid if you're vaxed".

Give it a rest, User. The vax was a dangerous Big Pharma joke on Canadians, and pretending that ivermectin didn't work was also a really funny Big Pharma joke.

Big Phrama is a trillion dollar industry. They control the health publications that we cite as authorities. They've been trying to get us hooked on 'flu vaccines' going back decades now. Generations actually. The nurses union has had to fight off mandatory flu vaccination in the past.  

Covid was supposed to be Big Pharma's messiah. They couldn't let an off-patent, dirt cheap treatment rival their expensive drug. 

[Goddess]

On 9/25/2024 at 8:38 AM, User said:

That is a cumulative deaths chart. There is no other direction it can go other than up... *facepalm*

 

Ah yes.

90% of the population gets vaxxed and deaths not only DON'T come down, they continue to skyrocket.

That is definitely the sign of a successful vaccine.

Remember when the smallpox vax came out and smallpox deaths skyrocketed?

Ya, me neither.

 

[Goddess]

On 9/25/2024 at 8:38 AM, User said:

That is a cumulative deaths chart. There is no other direction it can go other than up... *facepalm*

 

Let's look at cumulative. Yes, it means deaths will go up as more are added.

How fast do the numbers rise is the point here.

Let's say, before the vax, 10 people die each month of the year. That's 120 people in a year. With no vax.

Then 90% of people get a vax that prevents the virus.

The next year, 20 people per month die. That's 240 in a year, cumulatively it's 360 people. After mass vaxxing.

Can you explain, Little Boy Facepalm, how more people dying AFTER vaxxing than BEFORE vaxxing, indicates the vax is working?

You know if you just THINK a bit before rushing to denounce, you wouldn't look so foolish.

To help you out though, I'll remind you to also think about how the pull forward effect and healthy vaccinee  bias would also apply here.

Let me know if you figure it out.

 

Edited September 27, 2024 by Goddess

[Goddess]

I'll help you out because you're obviously not a deep thinker. You saw "cumulative" and then your brain shut off.

The pull forward effect (sometimes called "dry tinder effect", much like when a forest fire burns first the very dry scrub, but I don't prefer that term) means the most vulnerable who would have died anyways, have already died. What is left is very few vulnerable (especially as variants weakened) and lots of healthy people, who have an almost 100% chance of surviving the virus.

So Yes, while death numbers will "accumulate", they should not skyrocket, as we've seen. Especially AFTER mass jabbing with an injection claimed to prevent infection AND with weaker variants.

Why would this be?

I believe the studies I've posted here on ADE and OAS, the studies on IgG4 antibodies and what we already know about non-sterilizing vaccines is the answer.

 

Edited September 27, 2024 by Goddess

[User]

40 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Ah yes.

90% of the population gets vaxxed and deaths not only DON'T come down, they continue to skyrocket.

That is definitely the sign of a successful vaccine.

Remember when the smallpox vax came out and smallpox deaths skyrocketed?

Ya, me neither.

 

It was a cumulative chart. The only direction it goes is up... not sure why this point is not getting through to you. 

90% of the population was not vaccinated for COVID either. That stat varies widely by state and even more when you start looking at 1 dose ever vs continued vaccination. 

 

[Goddess]

18 minutes ago, User said:

It was a cumulative chart. The only direction it goes is up... not sure why this point is not getting through to you. 

90% of the population was not vaccinated for COVID either. That stat varies widely by state and even more when you start looking at 1 dose ever vs continued vaccination. 

 

I addressed this above. 

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, User said:

It was a cumulative chart. The only direction it goes is up... not sure why this point is not getting through to you. 

90% of the population was not vaccinated for COVID either. That stat varies widely by state and even more when you start looking at 1 dose ever vs continued vaccination. 

I'm not speaking for Goddess or anyone else, just myself, when I say that... my actual point about the pseudovax is THERE WAS NEVER, EVER, EVER enough evidence of vaccine safety to force healthy people to take it.

Part of that proof is the fact that we already knew by Dec 2020 that young, healthy people didn't need it.

Part of that proof is the fact that we already knew that mRNA vaccines were quite risky at that time, and no one had any idea what the long-term effects of it might be.

Part of that proof is the fact that we already knew, from the Israeli ICU data, that the jabs were not preventing the spread of covid before we ever got to the point where the at-risk population had all the jabs they wanted. 

There has never been a single human being that came even close to making the case that healthy people under 40 needed a jab. It has NEVER happened.

When people talked about jabbing youths they completely ignored the fact that youths had nothing to gain from it personally. They ignored the fact that "if people in Israel were getting sick enough to end up in ICU then they were clearly contagious, so vaxing young people wouldn't stop them from spreading covid". Then when we started getting evidence of vax-injuries, there was an all-out attempt to prevent knowledge of the frequency, severity and extent of vax-injuries.

Everything that I said above is 100% bulletproof. You can carve that all in stone. 

The actual efficacy of the covid jab is shrouded in lies, omissions, ignorance, protectionism, and myths. We KNOW that its protection never approached vax-levels. Never. Even the 4x-vaxed were basically unprotected by it. 

It may have offered a tiny bit of protection, but nothing to brag about. 

[eyeball]

On 9/28/2024 at 9:06 AM, WestCanMan said:

When people talked about jabbing youths they completely ignored the fact that youths had nothing to gain from it personally.

That's because the gain is social and collective - it's why we're referred to as a herd. 

Baaaaa!

[User]

On 9/28/2024 at 11:06 AM, WestCanMan said:

THERE WAS NEVER, EVER, EVER enough evidence of vaccine safety to force healthy people to take it.

I have not pushed any argument to compel anyone to take the COVID vaccine. 

Goddess has continually pushed conspiratorial arguments to question if there was even a pandemic or that COVID was killing people. 

In this instance, absurdly failing to realize the chart posted was a cumulative chart. 

You don't have to think that the COVID vaccine should be mandatory to acknowledge that COVID did in fact kill people. A lot of people. 

 

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, User said:

I have not pushed any argument to compel anyone to take the COVID vaccine. 

Goddess has continually pushed conspiratorial arguments to question if there was even a pandemic or that COVID was killing people. 

In this instance, absurdly failing to realize the chart posted was a cumulative chart. 

You don't have to think that the COVID vaccine should be mandatory to acknowledge that COVID did in fact kill people. A lot of people. 

 

TBH, the flu kills a lot of people every year. A really bad flu kills even more. 

2020 and 2021 there was no flu, and no one died from it. 

Does the flu really just take a year off when something like covid comes along? 

If no one told you about covid on the news, what evidence do you personally have that there was a pandemic? Did you see anything with your own eyes? What did you personally see, who do you personally know that was gravely affected by covid? 

We heard about crowded hospitals, but I don't know anyone who went to the hospital for covid. I don't have any friends who know anyone who died from covid. I do know people and have friends who know people who were injured by the vax. 

[Goddess]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's because the gain is social and collective

No, it wasn't.

The gain was only for the very elderly, the very obese and the already terminally ill.

For everyone else (the majority) it was all risk and no gain.  It didn't stop anyone from getting covid and it didn't stop transmission.  It didn't stop hospitalizations and it didn't stop death.

For someone like yourself, who believes children and working age adults should risk disability and death for yourself, then ya - it was a great deal.

I can tell you this - my grandmother died just before covid, she was 97.  She would have never agreed to have children die for her.  She would have rather risked getting the virus, than be alone and die alone.

[Goddess]

6 hours ago, User said:

I have not pushed any argument to compel anyone to take the COVID vaccine. 

And what did you do when that was going on?  Did you speak up?

6 hours ago, User said:

In this instance, absurdly failing to realize the chart posted was a cumulative chart. 

Name one disease/illness that more people died of AFTER a vaccine came out than BEFORE.

I notice you didn't address any of the points I made about "cumulative."