Canada Must Stop Funding Ukraine War

[Aristides]

5 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

only large cities are targeted with high yield countervalue warheads

people in fly over country are very likely to survive

while the coastal elites would be wiped out in their urbane cantonments

Five of the eight largest US military bases are in red states, including the three largest. Of the three in blue states, only one  is near a populated area. Lewis Mchord. 

[Aristides]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I already posted one link. Look it up yourself. 

Nope

[Yzermandius19]

45 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Five of the eight largest US military bases are in red states, including the three largest. Of the three in blue states, only one  is near a populated area. Lewis Mchord. 

you are confusing countervalue for counterforce

the counterforce nukes won't be landing in major red state population centers

the countervalue nukes will be landing in major blue state population centers

Edited June 30, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Aristides]

Dallas Ft Worth, Houston, Atlanta, Miami, Salt Lake, Phoenix, New Orleans, 21 million in Florida alone with lots of cities and military bases close to population centres.

[Aristides]

8 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

you are confusing countervalue for counterforce

the counterforce nukes won't be landing in major red state population centers

the countervalue nukes will be landing in major blue state population centers

The point is, there will be lots of bombs landing on red states and prevailing winds will carry radiation from the west coast, over them. All three US ICBM bases and most of the SAC bases are in red states.

Edited June 30, 2022 by Aristides

[Dougie93]

9 hours ago, Aristides said:

Five of the eight largest US military bases are in red states, including the three largest. Of the three in blue states, only one  is near a populated area. Lewis Mchord. 

those are counterforce targets, for multikiloton warheads

those are actually very small nukes in the grand scheme of things

the blast radius is only about a mile

if you live three miles or more away from the base, you'll survive

[Dougie93]

9 hours ago, Aristides said:

So did I and only a fool would be comfortable.

no, the fool worries about that which is beyond one's control

 

[Dougie93]

nuclear weapons are really only devastating against densely populated urban centres & industrial targets

thus, so long as you don't live in a large city, you are very to likely to survive

if all the two sides did was exchange tactical ( counterforce ) weapons against military bases

that would be acceptable losses

only the threat of annihilating the major cities ( countervalue ) is the deterrent

the Democrat traitors to the republic would die a firestorm of their own making

just desserts

if you're a Republican, you shouldn't even be living in the cities at this point, get out of there now

so long as you are not at ground zero, you only need to shelter in place for 48 hours

after which, the radiation levels will have dropped by 90%

don't forget, many nuclear weapons were detonated just outside of Las Vegas

and yet Vegas is still there

the effects of nuclear weapons beyond the immediate radius are entirely survivable

Edited June 30, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

The point is, there will be lots of bombs landing on red states and prevailing winds will carry radiation from the west coast, over them. All three US ICBM bases and most of the SAC bases are in red states.

the SAC bases are in the middle of nowhere on the sparsely populated Great Plains

that's not going to cause massive attrition in the local area

in terms of the radiation, that's all going to blow east and rain down on the Commies in Illinois

[Dougie93]

in terms of radioactive fallout, that is strontium-90

it is a grey powdery ash, you will be able to see it with the naked eye

the radiation however is only lethal if you ingest the powdery ash

so, to avoid that, treat fallout as you would asbestos

you'll need a Geiger counter, a dosimeter, rubber gloves,  some goggles, and an industrial respirator

since it is ash, you can easily decontaminate yourself with soap & water

[Aristides]

5 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

those are counterforce targets, for multikiloton warheads

those are actually very small nukes in the grand scheme of things

the blast radius is only about a mile

if you live three miles or more away from the base, you'll survive

Hardened silos will need something larger than small nukes.

Regardless, anyone advocation nuclear war to get rid of people with politics they don't agree with, is certifiable.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Aristides said:

Hardened silos will need something larger than small nukes.

no,  they don't

expanding the yield of the thermonuclear warhead only expands the radius of effect

but even a small nuke burns hotter than the sun

it's the heat & radiation which disables the missiles in the silos

the deciding factor is Circular Error Probability

the American MIRV's are more than accurate enough, CEP inside 100 meters

the American counterforce will be a mix of cruise missiles, SLBM's on depressed trajectory, and direct attack by bombers

the Russians will get some missiles off, no doubt

but you're talking a fraction of 1500 or so on alert, half of which are targeted at Western Europe

so the actual number warheads the Russians can get through to North America is not that many

therefore they will go for maximum effect, forgoing counterforce to inflict countervalue on the major cities

you can see how the Russsians operate in Ukraine, they terror bomb the urban population in lieu of winning the war

[Dougie93]

the thing to understand is that the Russians still don't stand a chance against America in a thermonuclear war

it doesn't really matter how many warheads the Russians have on alert

because the Russians don't have any early warning system

unlike the Americans, with SBIRS, BMEWS etc, the Russian cannot detect an inbound attack

thus most of the Russian nukes will be taken out in an American preemptive first strike counterforce operation

and the Russians know it

the Russians are only going to get a handful of their warheads away

they're not going to waste those on air forces bases where the missiles & bombers have already departed

the Russians know they would be going down, so in classic Russian fashion, they are going to go for vengeance

they're not going to get that by bombing the mostly empty fields of Fly Over Country

the Russian centre of gravity will be striking New York, Los Angeles & Chicago

which, they'd be doing us a favour, getting rid of those Woke Democrat Communist traitor lunatics

the Democrats incite the very war which results in their own annihilation, and the KGB's too

win win

[rectum]

On 6/28/2022 at 3:32 PM, myata said:

So Ukraine hits command centers, tanks, positions, munitions depots and such. And RuZZia hits apartment buildings, shopping malls, hospitals, railway stations, kindergartens. Not just in Ukraine, in Syria, everywhere. No rules, no honor, a gang of thugs, robbers and murderers, only in uniform. That defines a terrorist state. Try to find a better example.

 

 

Next you are going to tell us that Al-Qaeda and ISIS never targeted civilians. 

Nazi terrorist Ukrainians have been targeting civilians for 8 years as documented by the U.N.

As for Syria, you are just bitter than Russia defeated terrorist groups armed and sponsored by the US and NATO.

How dare Russia liberate Syrian cities from the hand choppers and head cutter US financed, trained and armed. 

[rectum]

On 6/28/2022 at 10:03 AM, Yzermandius19 said:

downplaying the heinous actions of Russia while upplaying the bad actions of western globalists is asinine identity politics

 

 

Numbers don't lie.

According to the U.N Ukrainian civilian death are at around 4235.

 

In Iraq the US killed millions.

Invading Ukraine is wrong, but US killed more civilian in Iraq.

And even the behaviour of American soldiers in Iraq was 10X worst than than of Russians in Ukraine.

Before Russian invasions, Ukrainian killed Russian.

Iraqi did not kill Americans, US invaded Iraq for the pleasure of killing civilians.

Russia is fighting Nazi in Ukraine. 

While American soldiers in Iraq were Nazi.  

Edited July 1, 2022 by rectum

[rectum]

On 6/28/2022 at 11:42 PM, WestCanMan said:

Ukraine is not the pure, innocent victim that our MSM will have you believe. The Americans would have attacked Ukraine too if they were in Russia's position, don't kid yourself. 

 

America attacked Iraqi for what the Saudi did.

and many US journalists publicly said: Iraqi are not responsible for what the Saudi did, they have the same skin colour as Saudi so i support killing Iraqi.

[rectum]

 

Terrorist Ukrainian even use Ambulances for transport, never mind them taking civilians as human shield.

Russian soldiers are risking their life to defend civilians.

While terrorist nazi Ukrainian use hospitals, schools, and civilians as human shield.

[rectum]

On 6/30/2022 at 2:40 AM, WestCanMan said:

According to multiple sources, they're the ones who killed the 15,000 ethnic Russians in the Donbas in the years between 2014 and 2022. Or maybe they did the majority of the killing. Who knows what to believe?

 

 

Even Pentagon affiliated media before the war admitted Ukrainian carried terrorists attacks against civilians similar to what ISIS did in Syria. 

Edited July 1, 2022 by rectum

[Yzermandius19]

53 minutes ago, rectum said:

 

Numbers don't lie.

According to the U.N Ukrainian civilian death are at around 4235.

 

In Iraq the US killed millions.

Invading Ukraine is wrong, but US killed more civilian in Iraq.

And even the behaviour of American soldiers in Iraq was 10X worst than than of Russians in Ukraine.

Before Russian invasions, Ukrainian killed Russian.

Iraqi did not kill Americans, US invaded Iraq for the pleasure of killing civilians.

Russia is fighting Nazi in Ukraine. 

While American soldiers in Iraq were Nazi.  

the Russians started the killing in Ukraine

Ukraine is defending itself

Americans were not Nazi's

siding with Russia against America is next level stupidity

[rectum]

2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

the Russians started the killing in Ukraine

Ukraine is defending itself

 

Ukraine  Nazi started killing Russian 8 years ago.

I don't think Russia invading Ukraine is right, but Russia did not start the war.

Ukraine defending itself, is like saying Nazi Germany was defending itself in the 1945.

[myata]

Russian troll here is trying to explain and justify Nazi-style atrocities. They can't get it that even the attempt itself tells everybody with at least a grain of normality who they are (mindless trolls), because there is no and cannot be any explanations or justification for Nazi atrocities.

But what else could they do, on the other hand? Admit the atrocities? Repent and apologize for them? Give up the nukes, voluntarily? Admit and abhor the extent of their crimes? Who, Russia? Before that we will see an asteroid made of Swiss cheese and strawberry ice cream. And eat it, all.

[rectum]

2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Americans were not Nazi's

siding with Russia against America is next level stupidity

 

Not siding with Russia against America.

If Russia is the flu, America is HIV. 

I want neither flu or HIV.

I am just saying America crimes in Iraq are worst than Russia crimes in Ukraine.

And yes Americans soldiers in Iraq were nazi.

Many American soldiers said they killed civilians for fun.

That they thought of Iraqi civilians as non humans.

And as we seen in Abu Ghraib images, Americans got pleasure from torturing civilians to death. 

American soldier even tortured children in concentration camps in Iraq. 

Not only did Americans in Iraq act like Nazi.

But many served with actual Nazi with Nazi flags.

[rectum]

5 minutes ago, myata said:

Russian troll here is trying to explain and justify Nazi-style atrocities. They can't get it that even the attempt itself tells everybody with at least a grain of normality who they are (mindless trolls), because there is no and cannot be any explanations or justification for Nazi atrocities.

 

 

Russian Troll as opposed to Nazi Troll who defended soldiers wearing Nazi Symbols.

Then go and Defend Al-Qaeda in Syria?

 

 

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, rectum said:

 

Russian Troll as opposed to Nazi Troll who defended soldiers wearing Nazi Symbols.

Then go and Defend Al-Qaeda in Syria?

 

 

Hey  Boris, you just bombed a condo and recreation centre in Odessa. You must be so proud of yourself.

[Yzermandius19]

26 minutes ago, rectum said:

Ukraine  Nazi started killing Russian 8 years ago.

I don't think Russia invading Ukraine is right, but Russia did not start the war.

Ukraine defending itself, is like saying Nazi Germany was defending itself in the 1945.

Russia invaded in 2014 too

they started it