Over doses of teens of America

[Robert Salyers]

 Fentanyl over doses  among teens have sky rocketed . in the last 3 years its gone up about 97 percent .

Not surprised with our borders being so pores and illegals being invited in which often carry these drugs due to cartels .

Seems our government is failing us at a amazing rate.

 

[Michael Hardner]

52 minutes ago, Robert Salyers said:

1. Not surprised with our borders being so pores and illegals being invited in which often carry these drugs due to cartels . Seems our government is failing us at a amazing rate.

 

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-opioid-epidemic

The graph on that page conveys the weight of the tragedy

[Robert Salyers]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-opioid-epidemic

The graph on that page conveys the weight of the tragedy

And bidens open boarders are helping fuel it overdoses have gone sky high the last couple years .

[WestCanMan]

1,500 deaths a week is a lot when the majority of them are 20-35 yr olds. Those people have, on average, 50 years left. That's 75,000 years of life lost per week.

When you compare that to covid it's outrageously high. About 2/3 of the people who die of covid in Canada are over 80. They lose maybe a few months each of life expectancy. Most of the rest are over 70. 

I obviously can't do the math with the scant numbers that I have access to, but 75,000 years is probably the number of years of life lost by about 150,000 covid victims. All of the covid deaths since Jan 2020 (just over 1M) have probably robbed Americans of as many years as Fentanyl takes away in 2 months or less. 

[ironstone]

And Biden and his puppeteers still do nothing to stem the flow of fentanyl into the country. He and the Democrats don't appear to be concerned about it at all and of course he is content to keep the southern border open which is a very important route for fentanyl smuggling.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

And Biden and his puppeteers still do nothing to stem the flow of fentanyl into the country. He and the Democrats don't appear to be concerned about it at all and of course he is content to keep the southern border open which is a very important route for fentanyl smuggling.

The problem is demand not supply. Closing the southern border will change little if anything.  

People need more to live for and look forward to. Life sucks for increasing numbers of people and so they do drugs.

[Robert Salyers]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

The problem is demand not supply. Closing the southern border will change little if anything.  

People need more to live for and look forward to. Life sucks for increasing numbers of people and so they do drugs.

There is no demand if there is no supply .It didnt become popular and in wide use until 3 years ago and has exploded in the last year due to a large supply coming across the boarder

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/fentanyl-has-become-main-drug-choice-121996

[ironstone]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

The problem is demand not supply. Closing the southern border will change little if anything.  

People need more to live for and look forward to. Life sucks for increasing numbers of people and so they do drugs.

It is sad that there is so much demand for this stuff but Republicans aren't really talking about closing down the border so much as actually enforcing existing laws which makes sense. Once again much of the blame for the fentanyl epidemic can be laid directly on China and the weak Biden administration. How much do Hunter Biden's business deals with the CCP influence his fathers stance on China?

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

Once again much of the blame for the fentanyl epidemic can be laid directly on...

...the left.

FIFY.

I bet dollars to donuts the lion's share of opioid addicts, who also happen to be white and uneducated, are also MAGA-chuds that have been convinced that everything sucks because of Biden and the left.

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

The problem is demand not supply. Closing the southern border will change little if anything.  

People need more to live for and look forward to. Life sucks for increasing numbers of people and so they do drugs.

Life sucks for people because they keep electing leftists who make cities unliveable. 

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Life sucks for people because they keep electing leftists who make cities unliveable. 

Reducing everything to cheap partisanship is just another excuse to not present any real solutions.

[Aristides]

The 10 states with the highest overdose fatality rates are evenly split between red and blue. The two worst are West Virginia and Kentucky. 

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, Aristides said:

Reducing everything to cheap partisanship is just another excuse to not present any real solutions.

It's not though.

Racial division is a big deal. Encouraging riots that destroy cities is a big deal. Being soft on violent crime is a big deal. Allowing millions of illegal immigrants in which causes stress on low-income housing and increases competition for low-income jobs is a big deal. Inflation is a big deal. The rising cost of gas is making it too expensive for people to drive and that's a big deal. Forcing people to take a Pflacebo or lose their jobs is a big deal.

Leftists do some virtue-signalling to get elected and then they do everything in their power to make life shittier for everyone.  That's a big deal. 

[Aristides]

It is a big deal because it just allows people to bitch about someone else without presenting any solutions of their own. Basically it's just being lazy.

 

 

[WestCanMan]

22 hours ago, Aristides said:

It is a big deal because it just allows people to bitch about someone else without presenting any solutions of their own. Basically it's just being lazy.

Here's a solution that you always ignore: stop being a stooge for MSM bullshit. 

It would be one thing if you watched it and tried to glean what few facts you can from it and ignored the rest, but you gobble it all up hook, line and sinker, you act on it like a good little boy, and then you regurgitate all their BS far and wide. 

"WEAR MASKS EVERYWHERE! CLOSING OUTDOOR PARKS IS A GREAT IDEA! BANNING FLIGHTS FROM CHINA IS RACIST AND INEFFECTIVE! NOTHING WILL WORK BUT THE VACCINES - THEY WILL BE SAFE, EFFECTIVE, AND THEY WILL GET US TO HERD IMMUNITY! THE ACCINE SIDE_EFFECTS AREN'T BAD! NOT THAT MANY VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE DYING! PEOPLE AREN'T BEING FORCED TO VACCINATE, THEY JUST LOSE THEIR JOBS IF THEY DON'T TAKE IT!"

Honestly if you look back over your posts you're on the idiot side of history all the time. You watch CTV, regurgitate their screed, get proven to be an idiot, rinse, repeat. 

Dude, the only way that anyone can even be a leftist is if they have a short memory and can't feel shame. 

[Aristides]

20 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Here's a solution that you always ignore: stop being a stooge for MSM bullshit. 

It would be one thing if you watched it and tried to glean what few facts you can from it and ignored the rest, but you gobble it all up hook, line and sinker, you act on it like a good little boy, and then you regurgitate all their BS far and wide. 

"WEAR MASKS EVERYWHERE! CLOSING OUTDOOR PARKS IS A GREAT IDEA! BANNING FLIGHTS FROM CHINA IS RACIST AND INEFFECTIVE! NOTHING WILL WORK BUT THE VACCINES - THEY WILL BE SAFE, EFFECTIVE, AND THEY WILL GET US TO HERD IMMUNITY! THE ACCINE SIDE_EFFECTS AREN'T BAD! NOT THAT MANY VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE DYING! PEOPLE AREN'T BEING FORCED TO VACCINATE, THEY JUST LOSE THEIR JOBS IF THEY DON'T TAKE IT!"

Honestly if you look back over your posts you're on the idiot side of history all the time. You watch CTV, regurgitate their screed, get proven to be an idiot, rinse, repeat. 

Dude, the only way that anyone can even be a leftist is if they have a short memory and can't feel shame. 

You just keep affirming everything I said.

[Robert Salyers]

On 6/5/2022 at 10:32 PM, eyeball said:

FIFY.

I bet dollars to donuts the lion's share of opioid addicts, who also happen to be white and uneducated, are also MAGA-chuds that have been convinced that everything sucks because of Biden and the left.

Thats a interesting assumption but its wrong , here are dome facts for you you look over and deal with.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512210/Red-blue-high-Mapping-Americas-drug-alcohol-habits-political-party-lines--DC-worst-offenders.html

[WestCanMan]

On 6/5/2022 at 7:32 PM, eyeball said:

FIFY.

I bet dollars to donuts the lion's share of opioid addicts, who also happen to be white and uneducated, are also MAGA-chuds that have been convinced that everything sucks because of Biden and the left.

What a pathetic thing to say. You're gonna politicize deaths now?

Does it matter if it's 60/40 leftists/conservatives or the other way around? Does it somehow make it better or worse? 

I thought that we hit rock bottom when peaceful protesters were getting called nazis and white supremacists, getting trampled by horses and beaten like rented mules. You've outdone yourself this time. 

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What a pathetic thing to say. You're gonna politicize deaths now?

Does it matter if it's 60/40 leftists/conservatives or the other way around? Does it somehow make it better or worse?

It matters when responsibility for the opioid epidemic is blamed on the left. It makes it personal.

It's like when the left is blamed for terrorism, crime or making your life suck. Why shouldn't you expect to get your politics thrown back in your faces?

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

It's like when the left is blamed for terrorism,

Leftists are soft on terrorists, and they use the topic of terrorism for political gain. They 1) fudge terrorism statistics to meet their ridiculous narratives and 2) even deny that attacks were even terrorist attacks if they will be attributed to leftist causes.

 1) They'll call anything a terrorist event if they think that they can pin it on white males. If someone writes F-Jews on a synagogue it's called a terrorist event and it is automatically assumed that it was done by whites, never blacks or muslims. Assaults against Chinese people during covid were always assumed to be by whites but that wasn't the case at all. It wasn't even the case in the majority of incidents. Too bad though, attribute those to 'whitey', and they all get counted as "terrorist attacks". 

Then the Dem-controlled FBI says "The biggest terrorist threat that America faces is from white males" lol. They are careful not to mention the body count, or how many of the so-called terrorist events were actually terrorist attacks and which ones were even proven to have come from one group or another, they just need to divide people. 

2) Here are some surprisingly terrorist-ish attacks that aren't considered to have been terrorist attacks by the FBI. 

Vegas shooting: a country concert was attacked, that's a majority conservative crowd, and pro-NRA crowd. 50 people were killed but it wasn't considered a terrorist attack because if it was, it would reflect on leftists, and on the people who constantly spew hatred against white people and cis-gender males. It was just a random crime. Uh-huh. 

The Waukesha "Car Crash": a BLM stooge who wrote a rap video about the Rittenhouse verdict drove his care into 50 people at a Christmas parade in Waukesha, just a few miles from where Rittenhouse lives. The driver had a prior arrest for using that exact same vehicle as a weapon just a month earlier. But leftists conclude that he didn't intentionally use it as a vehicle on that day - it was a prolonged car crash, and a bizarre coincidence. 

Do you know who doesn't say "terrorist attack"? The people who think that the attack was a justifiable act of vengeance, or who would like to distance the attacker from their own cause when it is obvious who's to blame. Ask anyone who was ecstatic about 9/11 if it was a terrorist attack and they'll call it glorious justice. 

Do you remember how hard leftists tried to pin the Pulse Nightclub shooting on Republicans and cis-gender white males? There was a gay parade in NYC a week after the shooting and all those stooges marched behind a 50-foot-wide banner that said "REPUBLICAN HATE KILLS". Now that it's known to have been a muslim terror attack you never hear about it anymore.  Most people probably still don't know that it was classified as a muslim terrorist attack. 

Our own PM was denying the genocide in islamic state when the rest of the world knew it for certain. He was hoping that it would be called something else so that he could shy away from the word. Yet he chose to call putting first nations children into res schools a genocide because it fit his own personal agenda. 

Leftists are positively revolting when it comes to the topic of terrorism and mass murder. 

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It's like when the left is blamed for terrorism, crime or making your life suck. Why shouldn't you expect to get your politics thrown back in your faces?

Leftists are soft on crime, period. Leftists have a massive tolerance for rioting and all kinds of violent crime. The guy who ran over all the people in Waukesha was out on $1,000 bail after using his car as a weapon a month earlier. Leftists let violent criminals out of jail "to help stop covid from spreading in prisons". In LA the leftist DA is all about keeping criminals out of jail. 

This isn't a joke or any form of politicization. Leftists are 100% soft on crime and that's just a matter of fact. 

If you think that high crime rates make life suck then give yourself a star. But that high crime rate comes back on leftists. 

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It matters when responsibility for the opioid epidemic is blamed on the left. It makes it personal.

I'm not blaming the opioid epidemic on leftists.

You blamed the fact that life in the inner cities sucks, and I said that the shitty inner city life is mostly the fault of leftists, which is true.

The only reason that I brought up the topic of opioid deaths in this thread is because I think it's a bigger issue than covid. I think that Fentanyl robbed far more years of life from people than covid did, but Fentanyl is a tough topic for leftists to talk about because their soft-on-crime, open borders stance is partly to blame for the epidemic. They choose to focus on covid because they can politicize it, believe it or not. It works for them, and it's highly divisive. The MSM has to prioritize it for those reasons. 

Edited June 8, 2022 by WestCanMan

[Aristides]

Fentanyl OD’s are an epidemic because it is dirt cheap and easily produced compared to natural opioids such as opium and heroin. It has a lot more to do with economics of the drug trade than politics. 

[eyeball]

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The only reason that I brought up the topic of opioid deaths in this thread is because I think it's a bigger issue than covid. 

Well sure but regardless of the topic the Mother of all Issues is always the left.

[FurriesRock]

On 6/3/2022 at 10:50 AM, Robert Salyers said:

And bidens open boarders are helping fuel it overdoses have gone sky high the last couple years .

Realistically, our borders have been open and little actual work has been done to stop illegals crossing besides that which gets political points.  What I mean by this is, even Trump just ramped up border patrol enforcement and tried to build a border wall, but he, like all other presidents, absolutely failed to go after businesses which hire illegals that provide the real incentive for illegals to come here in the first place.

Also, I don't believe it's illegals driving the consumption, or demand, of fentanyl or other drugs; it's our political and economic corruption which is driving people into poverty and hopelessness.