Army Guy Posted June 28, 2022 Report Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: It's pretty simple. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/turkey-supports-finland-sweden-joining-nato-1.6504434 Well done Vlad. Those two countries are very prepared for conflict with Russia, and even have underground bunkers with hockey rinks built through the decades, It's military is light years ahead of ours. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Aristides Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Or it could have been an accident, it is very hard to land ordinance from a plane at a low level due to air defenses in the area, doing excess of 400 km an hour anything is possible. And if you could prove that it would be a war crime against Ukraine, as Ukraine signed on to the Geneva convention, and Russia has not. That's the rub proving anything in a war zone is extremely difficult. Allegedly, these were the missiles used https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-22 Quote
Aristides Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 9 hours ago, Nationalist said: Tell the Ukrainians to quit storing arms and military in malls... Maybe tell NATO to quit sending the Ukrainians enough arms to keep the battle going but never win? Hell do both. So if arms are stored there, where were all the secondary explosions from those munitions going off after the mall was hit? Quote
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Aristides said: It's pretty simple. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/turkey-supports-finland-sweden-joining-nato-1.6504434 Well done Vlad. Huh...I must assume the complexity of the situation is beyond your narrow capabilities. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Aristides said: So if arms are stored there, where were all the secondary explosions from those munitions going off after the mall was hit? Did you see this strike? Standing there watching were you. Look mate...if you're so thirsty for a war, go to Ukraine and engage your enemy. Personally...I'd like to avoid a world war. Especially when I know that Ukraine has continuously aggravated an already shitty situation. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 9 hours ago, Army Guy said: We have seen entire towns/villages and cities leveled, reduced to rubble, and now we are doubting a shopping mall has been hit. Yugoslavia had all the different factions trying to make headlines by shelling their own people and blaming someone else. However today we have equipment that can tell you in seconds where a shell comes from and its trajectory in seconds. hence why counter-battery fire is a real thing. What message would that give Russia, NATO is going to sit on its ass and wait, why stop at the regions that Russia wants, and why not eliminate Ukraine altogether. Because Russia apparently has no interest in eliminating Ukraine all together. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Did you see this strike? Standing there watching were you. Look mate...if you're so thirsty for a war, go to Ukraine and engage your enemy. Personally...I'd like to avoid a world war. Especially when I know that Ukraine has continuously aggravated an already shitty situation. I'll ask the same question. Why no secondary explosions in all those malls, museums, theatres and schools the Russians have hit. If they were arms depots, there would have been munitions popping right, left and centre. First responders wouldn't be able to get near them for some time. Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia is bombing Ukrainian cities. Not the other way around. You accuse me of being a war monger as you sit there and justify both. Edited June 29, 2022 by Aristides Quote
Aristides Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Because Russia apparently has no interest in eliminating Ukraine all together. The want an emasculated puppet state at best. Quote
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: I'll ask the same question. Why no secondary explosions in all those malls, museums, theatres and schools the Russians have hit. If they were arms depots, there would have been munitions popping right, left and centre. First responders wouldn't be able to get near them for some time. Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia is bombing Ukrainian cities. Not the other way around. You accuse me of being a war monger as you sit there and justify both. Educate yourself a bit... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbjTWVaRx6jMN5ZYgbqe2_w Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: The want an emasculated puppet state at best. As opposed to the dictatorship it is now? Russian doesn't want Ukraine...they want the Donbas referendum honoured. I think they'd sort of like the Ukrainian Nazis to stop shelling the Donbas region as well. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, Nationalist said: As opposed to the dictatorship it is now? Russian doesn't want Ukraine...they want the Donbas referendum honoured. I think they'd sort of like the Ukrainian Nazis to stop shelling the Donbas region as well. Ukrainians have a right to their country and to defend themselves. It is Ukrainians fighting in Ukraine. The Donbas referendum was a joke and you know it. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Ukrainians have a right to their country and to defend themselves. It is Ukrainians fighting in Ukraine. The Donbas referendum was a joke and you know it. he actually doesn't know it because Russia said it's legit and he believes them Quote
Aristides Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 35 minutes ago, Nationalist said: As opposed to the dictatorship it is now? Russian doesn't want Ukraine...they want the Donbas referendum honoured. I think they'd sort of like the Ukrainian Nazis to stop shelling the Donbas region as well. Ukraine has had five different presidents since Putin came to power. You have your dictatorships confused. Quote
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: Ukrainians have a right to their country and to defend themselves. It is Ukrainians fighting in Ukraine. The Donbas referendum was a joke and you know it. No...I don't know that. I know that the same referendum was help in Crimea and accepted. I know that instead of accepting the independence of Donbas as well, the Neo-Nazi Ukrainian battalion attacked the civilians of Donbas. That's what I know. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Ukrainians have a right to their country and to defend themselves. It is Ukrainians fighting in Ukraine. The Donbas referendum was a joke and you know it. No I don't know it. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Ukraine has had five different presidents since Putin came to power. You have your dictatorships confused. https://yournews.com/2022/06/25/2366645/ukraine-bans-main-opposition-party-seizes-all-its-assets/ Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, Nationalist said: https://yournews.com/2022/06/25/2366645/ukraine-bans-main-opposition-party-seizes-all-its-assets/ Announced on Facebook FFS. What am I not surprised. Where is this Facebook post, I can't find it and none of your sources provides a link. Quote
Nationalist Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Announced on Facebook FFS. What am I not surprised. Where is this Facebook post, I can't find it and none of your sources provides a link. OK here's another... https://www.rt.com/news/557500-ukraine-bans-opposition-platform-for-life-party/ Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: OK here's another... https://www.rt.com/news/557500-ukraine-bans-opposition-platform-for-life-party/ Oh wow, RT quoting Facebook with no link. I looked at a half dozen of these sites and they all reference Facebook with no link. It's like they are just reading each other and parroting what they read. Wouldn't surprise me if RT was the origin. Edited June 29, 2022 by Aristides Quote
Army Guy Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 13 hours ago, Nationalist said: Because Russia apparently has no interest in eliminating Ukraine all together. How do you explain the assaults on territories outside of their proclaimed areas of interest? I think one of their main objectives was to capture the capital and have a regime change. Or so rumors have it. I don't think Russia planned stalling this early in the campaign, had things gone to plan to capture the entire country was or could have been in the cards. It is still too early to say what Russia will do. What we have not seen yet is Russia's primary troops and equipment so who knows... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Nationalist said: As opposed to the dictatorship it is now? Russian doesn't want Ukraine...they want the Donbas referendum honoured. I think they'd sort of like the Ukrainian Nazis to stop shelling the Donbas region as well. Is this the agreement you are referring to, or is there another? 2014 Donbas status referendums - Wikipedia Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Aristides Posted June 30, 2022 Report Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: How do you explain the assaults on territories outside of their proclaimed areas of interest? I think one of their main objectives was to capture the capital and have a regime change. Or so rumors have it. I don't think Russia planned stalling this early in the campaign, had things gone to plan to capture the entire country was or could have been in the cards. It is still too early to say what Russia will do. What we have not seen yet is Russia's primary troops and equipment so who knows... What do you consider Russia's primary troops? Just asking. Quote
Nationalist Posted June 30, 2022 Report Posted June 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Aristides said: Oh wow, RT quoting Facebook with no link. I looked at a half dozen of these sites and they all reference Facebook with no link. It's like they are just reading each other and parroting what they read. Wouldn't surprise me if RT was the origin. Lol...what a tweenkie. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-zelensky-s-party-crackdown-his-first-mistake- https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zelenskyy-suspends-ukrainian-opposition-parties-with-ties-to-russia-warns-of-harsh-response-if-they-don-t-comply-with-ban/ar-AAViisW https://jonathanturley.org/2022/03/21/zelenskyy-bans-opposition-parties-in-ukraine-in-b https://www.axios.com/2022/03/20/ukraine-ban-political-parties-russian-ties Get it warmonger? You're backing a fucking dictator who cozies up to neo-nazis. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 30, 2022 Report Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: How do you explain the assaults on territories outside of their proclaimed areas of interest? I think one of their main objectives was to capture the capital and have a regime change. Or so rumors have it. I don't think Russia planned stalling this early in the campaign, had things gone to plan to capture the entire country was or could have been in the cards. It is still too early to say what Russia will do. What we have not seen yet is Russia's primary troops and equipment so who knows... If he wanted to take the whole nation wouldn't he have used his primary troops first? He doesnt want to conquer Ukraine. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 30, 2022 Report Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: Is this the agreement you are referring to, or is there another? 2014 Donbas status referendums - Wikipedia It is. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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