Russia's Civil War

[August1991]

On 4/4/2022 at 6:03 AM, Yzermandius19 said:

Ukraine is not apart of that federation

equating them to Quebec and Russia to Canada is a stupid analogy

Clueless.

You don't understand history or geography. Or Trudeau.

[August1991]

On 4/4/2022 at 9:51 PM, sharkman said:

What would he say about his son?

To my knowledge, Trudeau Snr once told journalists to avoid his oldest son.

I don't know what Trudeau Snr had to say about any of his sons. He had three.

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Why is Justin Trudeau our federal PM?

Name recognition - and Margaret's hair. He married a BC Sinclair.

Pierre Trudeau was a federalist more than a democrat. 

[August1991]

To return to the OP, despite what many in the Western media seem to portray, this is not an invasion.

It is a civil war among Slavs.

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We free-thinking westerners won the Cold War. Let the others decide among themselves.

Socialism, communism is no longer a threat. 

[August1991]

Is Putin another Napoleon? Another Hitler?

Napoleon rose 100 years after 1648 - the end of the Thirty Years War - and he wanted to change Europe.

Hitler rose after 100 years after 1815 - the end of the Revolution - and he wanted to change Europe.

True, Europeans are violent people - they recently fought in Serbia (South-Slavia).

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I happen to think that Putin merely wants to make Russia what it was in the 18th century.

[Yzermandius19]

5 hours ago, August1991 said:

Clueless.

You don't understand history or geography. Or Trudeau.

you don't understand Russia or Ukraine, history or geography, or Trudeau

comparing Ukraine to Quebec and Russia to Canada in your analogy proves that

Trudeau would never make such an idiotic comparison

[Yzermandius19]

2 hours ago, August1991 said:

To return to the OP, despite what many in the Western media seem to portray, this is not an invasion.

It is a civil war among Slavs.

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We free-thinking westerners won the Cold War. Let the others decide among themselves.

Socialism, communism is no longer a threat. 

sharing the same ethnicity

does not make it all one country

Slavs live in many different countries

when two of them go to war

that's not a civil war

Edited April 7, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[August1991]

On 4/7/2022 at 6:51 AM, Yzermandius19 said:

sharing the same ethnicity

does not make it all one country

.....

Agreed. Heck, having one language does not make a country.

As Pierre Trudeau clearly stated, we have a federal state with two federal official languages - but no official cultural.

[August1991]

On 4/7/2022 at 6:51 AM, Yzermandius19 said:

sharing the same ethnicity

does not make it all one country

Slavs live in many different countries

when two of them go to war

that's not a civil war

Yzermandius19,

I disagree. For Slavs, it's a civil war.

Ukrainian/Russian? What's the difference?

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As a westerner, I don't want to get involved.

We won the Cold War.

 

[August1991]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

Yzermandius19,

I disagree. For Slavs, it's a civil war.

Ukrainian/Russian? What's the difference?

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As a westerner, I don't want to get involved.

We won the Cold War.

 

But like Trudeau Snr once did, I ask "Where is Biafra?"

Or rather, "Where is Odessa?" A question western journalists will soon ask.

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Unlike his son, I favour federalist States.

[Yzermandius19]

3 hours ago, August1991 said:

Yzermandius19,

I disagree. For Slavs, it's a civil war.

Ukrainian/Russian? What's the difference?

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As a westerner, I don't want to get involved.

We won the Cold War.

most Ukrainians do not consider themselves Russian

especially now

both Russians and Ukrainians being Slavs doesn't change that

you not being able to tell the difference doesn't mean there isn't one

it just makes you ignorant

there is big difference between a civil war amongst Slavs

and a war between two Slavic nations

Edited April 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

But like Trudeau Snr once did, I ask "Where is Biafra?"

Or rather, "Where is Odessa?" A question western journalists will soon ask.

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Unlike his son, I favour federalist States.

The Ukrainians do not favor being in a federalist state with Russia

they are a separate nation and wish to maintain their autonomy

your opinion of what they should want doesn't matter

[August1991]

On 4/9/2022 at 5:16 AM, Yzermandius19 said:

most Ukrainians do not consider themselves Russian

especially now

both Russians and Ukrainians being Slavs doesn't change that

you not being able to tell the difference doesn't mean there isn't one

it just makes you ignorant

there is big difference between a civil war amongst Slavs

and a war between two Slavic nations

Define "Ukrainian".

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We once had a PM, years ago, who famously asked, "Where's Biafra?"

  

[athos]

This is Simpson's prophecy from 1998

[Yzermandius19]

2 hours ago, athos said:

This is Simpson's prophecy from 1998

clearly fake Simpsons

but also

this meme is being championed by the pro-Russian crowd

yet implies that Putin is in league with the globalist elites

while they maintain the position that Putin is the good guy because he opposes them

they completely miss how that undermines their propaganda and think it strengthens their propaganda

Russian bots are not very smart

[athos]

22 hours ago, August1991 said:

Define "Ukrainian".

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We once had a PM, years ago, who famously asked, "Where's Biafra?"

  

"Ukrainian" is genetically modified Russian created by NATO.

One way to apply the method of divide and conquer is to create new artificial nations without cultural and national identity.

?

Edited April 16, 2022 by athos

[Infidel Dog]

I don't think you need a program to tell the one from the other.

The Ukrainians were the ones who were mass starved to death in the millions during the Holodomor.

The Russians were the ones who starved them.

The Russians were the one's who owned the ship that was bombarding Ukrainian children in their beds up until yesterday when it was sunk to the bottom of the Black Sea.

The Ukrainians are the ones who sunk it.

All seems pretty clear to me.

 

 

[athos]

20 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

clearly fake Simpsons

but also

this meme is being championed by the pro-Russian crowd

yet implies that Putin is in league with the globalist elites

while they maintain the position that Putin is the good guy because he opposes them

they completely miss how that undermines their propaganda and think it strengthens their propaganda

Russian bots are not very smart

Are you confident or arrogant?
So, anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a bot.

[athos]

4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I don't think you need a program to tell the one from the other.

The Ukrainians were the ones who were mass starved to death in the millions during the Holodomor.

The Russians were the ones who starved them.

The Russians were the one's who owned the ship that was bombarding Ukrainian children in their beds up until yesterday when it was sunk to the bottom of the Black Sea.

The Ukrainians are the ones who sunk it.

All seems pretty clear to me.

 

 

On the contrary, nothing is clear to you. This is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, but between Russia and NATO (USA).
The Ukrainian army is just a weapon in the hands of NATO. This war started 8 years ago and look what happened.

Ignorance and arrogance are twins who like to be together.
Lao Tzu

 

 

 

[athos]

Russian Soldiers Evacuate Children

from Dangerous Areas of Mariupol

Praying for the safety of Mariupol civilians. God be with them.

 

 

Edited April 16, 2022 by athos

[Infidel Dog]

4 hours ago, athos said:

This is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, but between Russia and NATO (USA).

Russian propaganda. 

Russia has no more historical right to the Ukraine than the Mongols, the Poles, the Lithuanians or the Turks.

Ukraine is your peoples' neighbor. Your should learn some of its history, Vlad.

Edited April 16, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[CITIZEN_2015]

9 hours ago, athos said:

Russian Soldiers Evacuate Children

from Dangerous Areas of Mariupol

Praying for the safety of Mariupol civilians. God be with them.

 

 

God has nothing to do with it. Satan is driving and leading Russians.

They raped children in Bucha and now they allegedly save children in Mariupol!!!!!!!!. They bombarded Mariupol to the ground murdering 21000 civilians and now they save children. Do you think you deal with fools in this forum or you are the only fool here?

[Yzermandius19]

12 hours ago, athos said:

Are you confident or arrogant?
So, anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a bot.

nope

bots who disagree with me are bots

you're not a bot because you disagree

you're a bot because even the many human pro-Russian useful idiots aren't your level of over the top super shills

only a bot could pull that off

also your inability to have a human discussion on the subject you constantly post about

and your posting endless amounts of obvious Russian propaganda are dead giveaways as well

Edited April 16, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[athos]

The tragedy is that the Anglo-Khazarian mafia managed to divide the Slavic people and turn them against each other by creating artificial so called "Ukrainian nation".
None of the main actors in Ukraine politics is of Slavic origin, including Zelensky, who is Khazar. Slavs seem to be very
naive by nature and are very easy to manipulate by Anglo - Khazarian reptiles.
Chinese are more wise and will certainly not fall for these evil tricks.

[Infidel Dog]

2 hours ago, athos said:

The tragedy is that the Anglo-Khazarian mafia managed to divide the Slavic people and turn them against each other by creating artificial so called "Ukrainian nation".
None of the main actors in Ukraine politics is of Slavic origin, including Zelensky, who is Khazar. Slavs seem to be very
naive by nature and are very easy to manipulate by Anglo - Khazarian reptiles.
Chinese are more wise and will certainly not fall for these evil tricks.

"Khazarian mafia?"

Seriously? You want to play that card? You do know that one's nuts, I hope.

For those who don't know what he's talking about you have to dig pretty deep down the collective butt-hole of conspiracy theories to find that one.

Basically it goes something like Jews aren't really Jews. They're Khazarians and Khazarians are the ultimate evil.

Even though there hasn't been an actual Khazarian for about a thousand years apparently they run the world as Jews now. It would seem though that some Russian wackos have twisted even that to make it "Anglo" Khazarian.

Something like that anyway.

Edited April 17, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[August1991]

4 hours ago, HappBo said:

There is a great difference between Ukrainian and Russian. Though Ukrainians can speak Russian, they have another mentality, culture, traditions. It is like if I'd say "Canadian/American what's the difference?"...

Precisely, what's the difference between English-Canadians and Americans?

Or, French-Canadians?

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Ukrainian? Russian? This is "nationalism" at its most basic level.

IMHO, we in the civilized West should have nothing to do with this Slavic fight. 

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by August1991