Russia's Civil War

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

More like a smack upside humanity's head for a near complete absence of morality.

We have it coming.

Perhaps you'd explain this complete absence of morality? What do you mean? What moral imperatives do you think warrant a nuclear war?

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

And now the rest of the story:

 

So basically one of the Rothschilds received a copy of the Balfour declaration. He was a Zionist and had some influence with the Jewish diaspora in Europe. But so what? There were many, many more hands in that Zionist Pie than the Rothchild who was pushing for a national home for the Jewish people.

The fact that it's a concern and presented as some kind of proof of something insinuated as nefarious goes back to this:

From the Encyclopedia Britannica 

Where Do Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theories About the Rothschild Family Come From?  

Interesting. And you believe this excuse instead of your own senses, do ya?

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Is the encyclopedia Britannica a valid source?

No, the encyclopedia Britannica can’t be used as a valid source. The information contained in the encyclopedia tends to be superficial without in-depth details. You are supposed to use reliable and up-to-date information for your paper.

https://essaysanytime.com/blog/encyclopedia-britannica-a-credible-source

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Not a single announcement will reach the public without our control. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.

– Protocol 12:4 The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

The House of Rothschild bought Reuters news service in the 1800’s. Within the last 20 years, Reuters bought the Associated Press. Now the Elite own the two largest wire services in the world, where most newspapers get their news. The Rothschilds have control of all three U.S. Networks.

 

[athos]

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I'm on board with much of your arguments here but this...is a bridge too far.

NATO has no intentions of conquering Russia. However...Trump was right that the USA and Russia should be allies.

Ok then maybe they've had an intentions of conquering Russian natural resources.

[Infidel Dog]

You know what I always find interesting about Conspiracies? It's what I call 'the leap.'

The tin foiler will place all these data points of possible or even actual facts in front of you  confusing and distracting you then all of a sudden comes the leap.

Like Athos noting there were Khazars, and DNA tests can even find genetic traces of them in modern man from the millenia past when they were known to be active. He links me to a Wikipedia page where they say, "The late 19th century saw the emergence of the theory that the core of today's Ashkenazi Jews are descended from a hypothetical Khazarian Jewish diaspora which migrated westward from modern-day Russia and Ukraine into modern-day France and Germany." Then he points out how there have been Jewish mobsters. 

Then there's 'the leap.'

Now all of a sudden there's a Khazarian mafia of these extinct Khazars which now exist but have somehow morphed into a "Khazarian Mafia" which seem to have Jewish roots.

Now none of those little possible factoids actually show that but they've been placed so confidently that if you weren't actively looking for a chain reason within the obfuscation you might believe there was one. 

There is no Khazarian Mafia. It's a conspiracy theory.

 

Edited April 19, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[athos]

16 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

so what?

that doesn't excuse them doing it others

whether the insecurity is justified or not

does not give them the right to invade a sovereign nation using that insecurity as an excuse

Read again, learn and try to come to the logical conclusions:

"Political correctness is nothing else but a form of legal deceit. The best way to resist manipulation is to go back to first principles of common sense. Those who are at a disadvantage without common sense should learn mathematical logic or Aristotelian syllogism to prevent their own brainwashing".

Mathematical form of Aristotelian syllogism:

If a=b

if b=c

then a=c

Edited April 19, 2022 by athos

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, athos said:

Ok then maybe they've had an intentions of conquering Russian natural resources.

Can you say..."cold day in hell"?

However...a formal alliance with Russia would have created the world's strongest military and thus they world's strongest influence.

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

You know what I always find interesting about Conspiracies? It's what I call 'the leap.'

The tin foiler will place all these data points of possible or even actual facts in front of you  confusing and distracting you then all of a sudden comes the leap.

Like Athos telling me there are khazars, and DNA tests can even find traces from the millenia past when they were known to be active. He links me to a Wikipedia page where they say, "The late 19th century saw the emergence of the theory that the core of today's Ashkenazi Jews are descended from a hypothetical Khazarian Jewish diaspora which migrated westward from modern-day Russia and Ukraine into modern-day France and Germany." Then he points out how there have been Jewish mobsters. 

Then there's the leap.

Now all of a sudden there's a Khazarian mafia of these extinct Khazars which now exist but have somehow morphed into a "Khazarian Mafia" which seem to have Jewish roots.

Now none of those little possible factoids actually show that but they've been placed so confidently that if you weren't actively looking for a chain reason within the obfuscation you might believe there was one. 

There is no Khazarian Mafia. It's a conspiracy theory.

 

I have no idea what a "Khazarian Mafia" is.

I've pointed out the facts...that's all.

[Infidel Dog]

Just now, Nationalist said:

I have no idea what a "Khazarian Mafia" is.

I've pointed out the facts...that's all.

Yeah, you'll have to ask Athos. Apparently they're responsible for the invasion of the Ukraine somehow. 

He seems shy about giving specifics though.

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Yeah, you'll have to ask Athos. Apparently they're responsible for the invasion of the Ukraine somehow. 

He seems shy about giving specifics though.

Well...considering the history of the Ashkenazi and the Ukrainians...and the Russians...it wouldn't surprise me to find a bunch of 'em egging this war on.

[athos]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Interesting. And you believe this excuse instead of your own senses, do ya?

The House of Rothschild bought Reuters news service in the 1800’s. Within the last 20 years, Reuters bought the Associated Press. Now the Elite own the two largest wire services in the world, where most newspapers get their news. The Rothschilds have control of all three U.S. Networks.

 

Prince Charles, heir to the British throne,getting poked on the chest by Evelyn de Rothschild

[Yzermandius19]

2 hours ago, athos said:

Read again, learn and try to come to the logical conclusions:

"Political correctness is nothing else but a form of legal deceit. The best way to resist manipulation is to go back to first principles of common sense. Those who are at a disadvantage without common sense should learn mathematical logic or Aristotelian syllogism to prevent their own brainwashing".

Mathematical form of Aristotelian syllogism:

If a=b

if b=c

then a=c

Russia being invaded in the past

doesn't mean Ukraine would have invaded them

if they didn't invade them first

in fact, Ukraine is more likely to invade them because they were invaded

the Russians just made being invaded more likely with their stupidity

[athos]

4 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Russia being invaded in the past

doesn't mean Ukraine would have invaded them

if they didn't invade them first

in fact, Ukraine is more likely to invade them because they were invaded

the Russians just made being invaded more likely with their stupidity

Don't be naive zombie and switch on the brain.
This is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, but between Russia and NATO (USA).
The Ukrainian army is just a weapon in the hands of NATO. This war started 8 years ago After Anglo-Khazarian mafia did coup in Kiev.

Edited April 19, 2022 by athos

[athos]

Who is winning in Ukraine?

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, athos said:

Don't be naive zombie and switch on the brain.
This is not a war between Russia and Ukraine, but between Russia and NATO (USA).
The Ukrainian army is just a weapon in the hands of NATO. This war started 8 years ago After Anglo-Khazarian mafia did coup in Kiev.

America helping to overthrow the Russian puppets in Kiev

is also a lame justification for invasion

all of Russia's reasons for doing it suck

they are not the good guys

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, athos said:

Prince Charles, heir to the British throne,getting poked on the chest by Evelyn de Rothschild

Yup. That exemplifies the pecking order. 

[Infidel Dog]

17 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well...considering the history of the Ashkenazi and the Ukrainians...and the Russians...it wouldn't surprise me to find a bunch of 'em egging this war on.

However what one wants to believe isn't evidence confirming a conspiracy theory. It's still just tin foil evolving from a confusing scattering of possible factoids.

[Infidel Dog]

22 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Interesting. And you believe this excuse instead of your own senses, do ya?

The House of Rothschild bought Reuters news service in the 1800’s. Within the last 20 years, Reuters bought the Associated Press. Now the Elite own the two largest wire services in the world, where most newspapers get their news. The Rothschilds have control of all three U.S. Networks.

 

I'm hesitant to get into the whole 'Rothchild's and therefore Jews run the world' thing. It's only tangential to this "Khazar Mafia" thing Athos was originally claiming. Basically you're wanting to legitimize one conspiracy theory by mentioning another.

However if you would like to offer any real evidence you have of Rothchild's having current controlling interest in Reuters or the Associated Press I'd love to see it. Damned if I can find any real evidence. 

I'll even settle for a non-foiler news article.

Edited April 19, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

However what one wants to believe isn't evidence confirming a conspiracy theory. It's still just tin foil evolving from a confusing scattering of possible factoids.

True.

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'm hesitant to get into the whole 'Rothchild's and therefore Jews run the world' thing. It's only tangential to this "Khazar Mafia" thing Athos was originally claiming. Basically you're wanting to legitimize one conspiracy theory by mentioning another.

However if you would like to offer any real evidence you have of Rothchild's having current controlling interest in Reuters or the Associated Press I'd love to see it. Damned if I can find any real evidence. 

I'll even settle for a non-foiler news article.

https://www.eutimes.net/2009/03/reuters-and-the-associated-press-are-owned-by-the-rothschild-family/

[Infidel Dog]

I'd never heard of EUTimes. I think it might be a little farther fringey Right than I am. Some here would find that hard to believe as possible. 

Anyway...I had to rely on the left and their "factcheckers" to get anything on it. Mediabiasfact check believes:

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• Overall, we rate The European Union Times a far-right biased conspiracy website that also publishes fake news and promotes hatred toward immigrants, minorities, and Jews.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-european-union-times/

I kind of get a kick out of Rational Wiki sometimes and they tell us:

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The European Union Times is a "news" site that presents utter neo-Nazi bollocks.

It certainly looks the part. It has lots of mainstream advertising served by ContextWeb, it's got a nice WordPress theme, and its articles on Barack Obama have been widely linked by Tea Party blogs,^{[citation needed]} presumably pleased to find a news site that supports some of their views. All standard for a libertarian or Republican newssite.

Upon closer inspection, however, it is little more than a regurgitator of news stories that paint blacks, Hispanics, and Jews in a bad light. Beyond that, it is a particularly unpleasant far-right blog with the information standards of InfoWars. The reporting is, without exception, shockingly unprofessional.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/European_Union_Times

But you know if you don't want to trust those 2 sites there is one you do appear to trust. It's here:

https://www.eutimes.net/about/

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Ideology
To make things clear, we DO endorse communism in its original Soviet Union form, we disavow Antifa as not real communists but as a bunch of Satanist schizophrenics who should all be sent to the Siberian gulags. We also support nationalism! We are both socialists and nationalists. Had the Axis and the USSR got along back in the 40s like they should have, the world would have been a totally different place now (for the good).

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

I don't think your link falls within the borders of my request:

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I'll even settle for a non-foiler news article.

 

[Infidel Dog]

I mean...for God's sake...did you not notice they started their article quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Surely you know what that is. That should have been your first clue you were circling the cesspit of foiler central.

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The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Протоколы сионских мудрецов) or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is a fabricated antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. The hoax was plagiarized from several earlier sources, some not antisemitic in nature.^[1] It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.

Distillations of the work were assigned by some German teachers, as if factual, to be read by German schoolchildren after the Nazis came to power in 1933,^[2] despite having been exposed as fraudulent by the British newspaper The Times in 1921 and the German Frankfurter Zeitung in 1924. It remains widely available in numerous languages, in print and on the Internet, and continues to be presented by neofascist, fundamentalist and antisemitic groups as a genuine document. It has been described as "probably the most influential work of antisemitism ever written".^[3]"

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion}

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I mean...for God's sake...did you not notice they started their article quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Surely you know what that is. That should have been your first clue you were circling the cesspit of foiler central.

"

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Протоколы сионских мудрецов) or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is a fabricated antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. The hoax was plagiarized from several earlier sources, some not antisemitic in nature.^[1] It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.

Distillations of the work were assigned by some German teachers, as if factual, to be read by German schoolchildren after the Nazis came to power in 1933,^[2] despite having been exposed as fraudulent by the British newspaper The Times in 1921 and the German Frankfurter Zeitung in 1924. It remains widely available in numerous languages, in print and on the Internet, and continues to be presented by neofascist, fundamentalist and antisemitic groups as a genuine document. It has been described as "probably the most influential work of antisemitism ever written".^[3]"

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion}

I believe my senses because the media is all bought and paid for and is nothing but a propaganda machine.

The Rothchilds own Reuters and AP. They also own the major networks in the USA.

[Infidel Dog]

 

The Protocol of the Elders of Zion is grey lizard people levels of tin foil. As is anybody who references it as fact.

So OK, the media is always questionable but here we're at the point where we have to wonder what, if anything, can we believe.

The bulk of reasonable information tells us the EU Times is all foil. Hell, they even admit it themselves when they tell us they're National Socialists. That equates as Nazi. 

You don't want to believe the New York Times. Fine. Don't. But don't tell people therefore they have to believe a Jew-hating fairy tale like the Protocol of the Elders of Zion.

[Infidel Dog]

You're starting to remind me of Penny in this one, Nationalist.

"Oh, Voodoo is real. You don't wanna mess with Voodoo."

Edited April 20, 2022 by Infidel Dog