August1991 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 5:38 PM, Argus said: The Quebec government has cut back on immigration and instituted various measures, including a values test for prospective immigrants. Do you agree with their actions? And no, Canada isn't a big country. Almost all immigrants go to six cities in the south, 75% of immigrants wind up in Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver. Don't count hundreds of thousands of square miles of frozen tundra and tell me we've got lots of room. Blanchet has every reason to defend what he is. The world does not lack for children, It lacks for educated children. ==== Canada (like Norway, Sweden, Russia) is a cold country. Lazy/ignorant people don't live here. They move south. As Margaret Atwood said: We survive. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Posted September 17, 2021 50 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: temperature differences is a non-sequitur just because Canada and America are different in some ways does not disprove they are similar in others I once had a chat with a plombier, CAQ voter - the BBC/CBC/MSM would describe him as a "racist extreme right-wing" voter. Anyway, I said: "In Quebec, we have protection. It's cold here." Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, August1991 said: I once had a chat with a plombier, CAQ voter - the BBC/CBC/MSM would describe him as a "racist extreme right-wing" voter. Anyway, I said: "In Quebec, we have protection. It's cold here." Quebec is more restrictive on immigration than the rest of Canada but that's a language thing, not a temperature thing it's cold in other provinces too, some even colder than Quebec, and yet they are more pro-immigration than Quebec regardless Edited September 17, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
marcus Posted September 17, 2021 Report Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/8/2021 at 7:31 PM, Argus said: Other countries which care about the well-being of their citizens cut immigration during the covid mess, and as a result, have lower unemployment rates. Some corrections and information in regards to your comments on how immigration has worked in Canada during the pandemic: 1) Immigration Canada did not allow any foreign permanent resident applicants to enter during the height of the pandemic. It has only been since July of this year, that they are slowly allowing those whose applications received a positive response to come in. 2) Immigration Canada only processed foreign workers' applications of those who are already in Canada, working. 3) Canada's unemployment rate has been a lot better than most other countries in the world. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
RedDog Posted September 18, 2021 Report Posted September 18, 2021 And they will all be Chinese or muslim, which is pretty much all I see on transit buses or in supermarkets already. Most are not speaking English and amazingly, nobody expects them to. Its Cancel Culture. Quote
myata Posted September 18, 2021 Report Posted September 18, 2021 Peasant population has worked very well for the country's enlightened and benevolent elites in the past two centuries, and so why not extend it further? Work your a... off for the family and kids education (by the time well into double digits, annually, not to worry) don't ask (m)any questions, always do as told, all in all a great democratic electorate. And there's still a lot to sell in ad mere usque mere so that benevolent budgets wouldn't get too stressed even if unlikely to be balanced ever again. I'd give it a few decades, maybe till bicentennial. By then, climate change effects in full swing, out of control migration, global stresses and half of the country owned by China. And what if one day it would come knocking on the door? Whatever's left of RCA would put up a great show of national defense led by the fearless leader eternal yes, you know. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
August1991 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/17/2021 at 3:13 AM, Yzermandius19 said: Quebec is more restrictive on immigration than the rest of Canada but that's a language thing, not a temperature thing it's cold in other provinces too, some even colder than Quebec, and yet they are more pro-immigration than Quebec regardless Quebec? As you say, all of Canada is a cold and dark place for about half the year. This is our protection against idiots. ===== I never believed that Canada's native people (indigenous?, you know, Indians) are lazy. They managed to live/survive in a difficult, changing climate. We European-Canadians have another story. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, August1991 said: Quebec? As you say, all of Canada is a cold and dark place for about half the year. This is our protection against idiots. ===== I never believed that Canada's native people (indigenous?, you know, Indians) are lazy. They managed to live/survive in a difficult, changing climate. We European-Canadians have another story. cold doesn't protect from idiots Canada is overrun by them as is Quebec and the cold isn't stopping them Edited September 19, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: cold doesn't protect from idiots I usually find that disdain for the electorate, and by extension democracy, comes from arrogant socialists. I guess that's changing. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Yzermandius19 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I usually find that disdain for the electorate, and by extension democracy, comes from arrogant socialists. I guess that's changing. democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner if you don't think you're surrounded by idiots you either aren't paying attention or you support the idiocy Idiocracy came true Edited September 19, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
myata Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: and by extension democracy, comes from ... What "democracy"? Where? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 In China and Russia also a democracy. It's only a word. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Michael Hardner Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: if you don't think you're surrounded by idiots I don't think intelligence or looks define your value to your community, your country or anyone. I like people. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Yzermandius19 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I don't think intelligence or looks define your value to your community, your country or anyone. I like people. I like some people others not so much I don't suffer fools gladly and there are a lot of fools around Edited September 19, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
myata Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 Apart from many nuances, two principal questions that define a democracy are: can the society choose its government; and can it control the government in power? The answer to the second question is very clear: there are no effective controls over governments in Canada, majority or minority. And to the first one, is very limited choice still a choice? Is strongly suppressed choice still a choice that qualifies for a democracy? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Yzermandius19 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, myata said: Apart from many nuances, two principal questions that define a democracy are: can the society choose its government; and can it control the government in power? The answer to the second question is very clear: there are no effective controls over governments in Canada, majority or minority. And to the first one, is very limited choice still a choice? Is strongly suppressed choice still a choice that qualifies for a democracy? Canada's Overton window of political choice is about as wide as the choice between Coke and Pepsi Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: and there are a lot of fools around And yet, I'm sure you reject the standard trappings of intelligence like a degree, accreditation, and experience in a certain field am I right ? Most Climate Scientists are idiots, economists are probably idiots - am I right ? So then we end up in a peculiar universe where intelligence is an essential virtue, and yet that is judged and defined by you. Seems a lot more like you are talking about your own ego than some subjective thing but I don't know you... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Yzermandius19 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: And yet, I'm sure you reject the standard trappings of intelligence like a degree, accreditation, and experience in a certain field am I right ? Most Climate Scientists are idiots, economists are probably idiots - am I right ? So then we end up in a peculiar universe where intelligence is an essential virtue, and yet that is judged and defined by you. Seems a lot more like you are talking about your own ego than some subjective thing but I don't know you... lots of people are idiots including many experts they are some of the biggest idiots of all accreditation scams abound and merit is often eschewed by those accreditors who accredit cronies who preach the dogma over the competent who question the dogma popery by any other name would smell as shitty tickets to heaven sold was a bad idea then and it's a bad idea now Edited September 19, 2021 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote
RedDog Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 And of course as usual with liberals, immigrants always come from the wrong places. Third world despots who have zero intention of ever assimilating or even speaking English. They’ll create caste system ghettos of their own and their children actually born here will yap foreign gibberish in public and on transit. I submit we have quite enough of these malcontents. Surely we can hand select immigrants from countries like the USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Western European and Scandinavian countries. We have quite enough Somalians thank you. Quote
-TSS- Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 Sounds like inferiority-complex being next door to a mightier neighbour. Besides, Canada isn't even a small country populationwise. It is a mid-rank country. Small countries are the ones below 10 million people. Ontario alone has more than that. Quote
myata Posted September 19, 2021 Report Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Or maybe a Russia complex? Yes (almost) all we do (in public matters) is second rate but at least we're big! Edited September 20, 2021 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
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