Our national pride - Canadian women's soccer team wins gold-medal.

[Michael Hardner]

11 hours ago, Argus said:

 

And by the way, if you hold pro gun and pro life beliefs keep them quiet if you want to become a doctor.

I agree with the ruling.  The case is shocking, in that the board felt that they could Trump charter rights.

[Yzermandius19]

29 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I agree with the ruling.  The case is shocking, in that the board felt that they could Trump charter rights.

the case is not shocking if you know the woke

this is what they do, and why them growing in power and influence is dangerous

it's like I told you, anyone who disagrees with them is to be cancelled, I was not exaggerating

this guy is a prime example

claiming to be woke won't save you either, if they doubt your sincerity because you think the crazies have gone even a little too far, or you aren't vocal enough in your support of their brand of crazy, then you will be lumped in with the "far right white supremacist patriarchy" too

Edited August 12, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

23 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

 

1. it's like I told you, anyone who disagrees with them is to be cancelled, I was not exaggerating

 

1. Yes, Argus came through with exactly the example I was looking for. I don't know that I would include abortion in the whole woke thing because it's rather an old argument, but we agreed that this is dangerous and that is why I was shocked.

 

[Yzermandius19]

23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Yes, Argus came through with exactly the example I was looking for. I don't know that I would include abortion in the whole woke thing because it's rather an old argument, but we agreed that this is dangerous and that is why I was shocked.

well now that you are on to them, prepare to see a lot more of this, because this is what they do, you will come to expect this

this is not a one-off and their influence is only growing

I guarantee that if you start looking into it, you will be shocked that it is everywhere, and that you didn't notice it before

just stop giving the woke and their claims of "just being out for social justice so how can anyone disagree with that?", the benefit of the doubt, and their whole house of cards will come crashing down before your eyes

it's a motte and bailey, they push the radical bullshit until they meet resistance (expanding the bailey), then they retreat to saying they are only talking about something you can't possibly disagree with until you stop pushing back (retreating to the motte and waiting out the siege), then they go right back to pushing the radical bullshit again

wash, rinse, repeat

Edited August 12, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said:

1. well now that you are on to them, prepare to see a lot more of this, because this is what they do, you will come to expect this, this is not a one-off and their influence is only growing, I guarantee that if you start looking into it, you will be shocked that it is everywhere, and that you didn't notice it before

2. just stop giving the woke and their claims of "just being out for social justice so how can anyone disagree with that?", the benefit of the doubt, and their whole house of cards will come crashing down before your eyes

3. it's a motte and bailey...

1. More of this is fine, but a legal precedent is an important defense of liberalism.
2. I am not one of those people who goes after individuals and presumes to know their motives, so - yes - they have the freedom to pursue process change, rename streets, whatever the system will bear.  Maybe it will be good for democratic discussion to have our actual foundations tested.
3. Don't know what this means, but ok.

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. More of this is fine, but a legal precedent is an important defense of liberalism.
2. I am not one of those people who goes after individuals and presumes to know their motives, so - yes - they have the freedom to pursue process change, rename streets, whatever the system will bear.  Maybe it will be good for democratic discussion to have our actual foundations tested.
3. Don't know what this means, but ok.

1)canceling people for disagreeing with the woke is not fine, not fine at all

the woke deciding who gets to be doctors and who doesn't, based on how woke they are

is not fine

2)tearing down western civilization is not good for discussion, and the woke don't want discussion, they want compliance with their radical bullshit

all discussion that isn't virtue signaling how woke you are will be canceled, if they have their way

they only play by the liberal rules when they allow them to do as they please, the second it impedes them in any way, they don't play by the rules

3)look it up if you need further clarification, it's a logical fallacy that they engage in all the time, I just described the strategy above

the motte is a strong position, often one that no person with any common sense can disagree with

like "we just want all races to be treated equally"

the bailey is a weak position, often one that no person with any common sense would agree with

like "anyone who disagrees with us will be cancelled, and silence is violence, so those who don't enthusiastically cheer us on as we do so, will also be canceled"

they start trying to seize ground by expanding the bailey to more and more absurb positions as they go

and when the bailey is attacked, they retreat to the motte

wait out the attack, and then re-seize the bailey

and continue expanding it when the attacker gives up

wash, rinse and repeat

you are particularly prone to falling for this logical fallacy from the woke

this is why you so often confuse the woke bailey with the woke motte

you don't question their motives and you take them at their word when they invoke the motte

and they exploit your naivete and assumption that can't be as crazy as they sounded when expanding the bailey

Edited August 12, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said:

1. you are particularly prone to falling for this logical fallacy from the woke

2. you don't question their motives and you take them at their word when they invoke the motte

1) Purity tests are a requirement for zealots on both sides, I have found
2) I don't question your motives either

If I have to talk about the personality of the claimant, then I may well be out of arguments.

[-TSS-]

Even though soccer is the most popular sport in the world women's soccer isn't that popular. I guess most Canadians still value their men's hockey-supremacy above women's soccer gold-medal.

[Argus]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I agree with the ruling.  The case is shocking, in that the board felt that they could Trump charter rights.

What I wonder is - how often does this happen? He wrote five apologies but evidently didn't grovel enough or retract his views. How many others, faced with expulsion, gave up and just told them what they wanted to hear? I am remembering that quasi-interrogation of Lyndsay Shepherd at Wilfred Laurier where she faced something like zealots from the cultural revolution questioning her motives and morality.

Edited August 12, 2021 by Argus

[WestCanMan]

On 8/6/2021 at 6:37 PM, bcsapper said:

Yeah, it was good to see a country I support win at penalties for once.

Almost all of their goals were from penalties this year, it kinda takes the joy out of it.

If Canada had beaten the US because of Sinclair's hat trick in that recent semi at the Olympics, that would have been the stuff of legends. Too bad the American ref put the kaibosh on that.

 This win was just 'meh'.  

[WestCanMan]

An ump in the women's softball this year pulled the same 'obscure rule' shit that the soccer ref pulled in the semi a few years back. 

No one even knew about the "goalie can only hold the ball for 7 seconds" rule that the ref pulled out of her ass to help team USA in soccer. I've watched 100 soccer games in my lifetime and never even heard of that rule. The commentators didn't know it either, and the guy was even a pro goalie himself. 

This year in softball, when Canada finally got a base runner and put in their pinch hitter, team USA pulled out some rule about how long the batter can stand outside the box to get an extra strike called on her. She went from an 0-1 count to 0-2 because of it. I love the fact that she Ike Turned the F outta the ball right after that. Not a home run, but the ball had so much stank on it that it almost went through the fence. 

[Yzermandius19]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1) Purity tests are a requirement for zealots on both sides, I have found
2) I don't question your motives either

If I have to talk about the personality of the claimant, then I may well be out of arguments.

you don't have to read minds

some of them readily admit what they are doing

and they expose those who pretend to be doing something else

and those who are just useful idiots who don't know what they are doing

but are doing it nonetheless

just read up on the basis of the ideology

to cut through the bullshit

the road to hell is paved with good intentions

the Woke who have good intentions, those intentions don't matter if they are paving the road to hell with them via Wokeism

in that case, them having good intentions, just makes them even more dangerous

Edited August 12, 2021 by Yzermandius19