Our national pride - Canadian women's soccer team wins gold-medal.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

 

It's probably climate change.

[Yzermandius19]

8 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

It's probably climate change.

nope

but the woke and the greens are different wings of the same Nietzsche + Malthus religion

to quote Dougie93
 

Quote

it's religion, without faith

they are a church, without God

this is the Nietzschean abyss, this is what Nietzsche was warning about

the church of Environmentalism has sin, but no atonement, no redemption

that's what makes it's a doomsday cult, they want the doomsday to come, they celebrate it

its about punishment, self flagellation, the doom of man is deserved

there is two main sects of the Nietzschean religion, Woke & Green

now reaching the threshold of civilizational collapse

racial revanchism, environment without man, put them together, and it's the NSDAP all over again

purification, erase the past, year zero, the trains to Auschwitz

Robin DiAngelo + Greta Thunberg = Magda Goebbels

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

15 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

the most dangerous illiberalism is the woke these days, by several orders of magnitude

If you can find me some convincing evidence, my mind is open.  I have heard a few examples, cited by centrist publications that have merit and are remarkable.  But hundreds of hours of Tucker Carlson poking at your anger gland doesn't produce squat... 

BTW Tucker doesn't seem that "manly".  He's a TV dinner trust fund kid.  Sure sounds liberal to me.

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

If you can find me some convincing evidence, my mind is open.  I have heard a few examples, cited by centrist publications that have merit and are remarkable.  But hundreds of hours of Tucker Carlson poking at your anger gland doesn't produce squat... 

BTW Tucker doesn't seem that "manly".  He's a TV dinner trust fund kid.  Sure sounds liberal to me.

Tucker is simply a liberal who caught on to the woke's illiberalism

that doesn't make him the right wing extremist that the woke claim he is

he used to work for CNN lulz

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

1. Tucker is simply a liberal who caught on to the woke's illiberalism

2. that doesn't make him the right wing extremist that the woke claim he is

 

1. Coincidentally after he moved from CNN to FOX ?
2. He's just an actor - you know that right ?
 

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Coincidentally after he moved from CNN to FOX ?
2. He's just an actor - you know that right ?

he caught on when the woke started picking up serious steam in America

during the Obama Administration

well aware that he's an entertainer

and the he works for FOX

that doesn't make him wrong about the woke

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

nope

but the woke and the greens are different wings of the same Nietzsche + Malthus religion

to quote Dougie93
 

 

Nietzsche, Malthus, who cares?

If you have to look to some dead guys for opinions, you're probably not paying enough attention.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Nietzsche, Malthus, who cares?

If you have to look to some dead guys for opinions, you're probably not paying enough attention.

the dead guys invented the talking points

of the people whose opinions they think are their own

but have no idea of the actual origins

if you don't look to some dead guys opinions, you're probably not paying enough attention

this isn't new, this ideology has been brewing for centuries

your being oblivious to that, doesn't make it not true

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

the dead guys invented the talking points

of the people whose opinions they think are their own

but have no idea of the actual origins

if you don't look to some dead guys opinions, you're probably not paying enough attention

this isn't new, this ideology has been brewing for centuries

your being oblivious to that, doesn't make it not true

I tend not to rely on the dead guys. 

Of course, I'm capable of thinking for myself.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, bcsapper said:

I tend not to rely on the dead guys. 

Of course, I'm capable of thinking for myself.

I don't rely on them either

but plenty of dead guys said things of consequence that reverberate in the culture to this day

whether you are oblivious to that influence or not doesn't change that

when you are ignorant of the dead guys, you fail to understand why what is happening is happening

if you don't know where you've been, you won't know where you are or where you are going

if you don't know where the dead guys have been, you won't know where the live guys are or where they are going

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I don't rely on them either

but plenty of dead guys said things of consequence that reverberate in the culture to this day

whether you are oblivious to that influence or not doesn't change that

when you are ignorant of the dead guys, you fail to understand why what is happening is happening

if you don't know where you've been, you won't know where you are or where you are going

if you don't know where the dead guys have been, you won't know where the live guys are or where they are going

No, I don't agree with that at all.

[Yzermandius19]

other people are capable of thinking for themselves too

and many dead guys did just that

and had a huge impact on history

have a huge impact on the present

and will have a huge impact on the future

 

so if you want to be better at thinking for yourself

it's helpful to know when you are

and when you are actually just paraphrasing a dead guy's way of thinking

and are falsely assuming they had no influence on your own thinking or the thinking of others

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

No one is saying women are as good as men at sports that require strength and speed. Why do they have to be? That’s your hang up. You don’t even think they should be allowed to compete. You wear your sexism on your sleeve.

I am saying that in many other cases (other than strength) they are superior. Strength alone don't bring superiority ( gorilla has strength too but not superior to humans). Women in general having qualities like having bigger hearts, wiser and more logical in decision making (men in general are more stubborn making wrong decisions), having softer and more beautiful bodies, coming to age faster (a 19 year old woman is more mature whereas most 19 year old men are still boys) not to mention they are sources of life. These facts go to the hearts of any idiotic stupid religion or ideology or persons which may consider women as inferior or second class or try to justify suppressing women. 

Edited August 7, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I am saying that in many other cases (other than strength) they are superior. Strength alone don't bring superiority. A gorilla has strength too but not superior to humans. Like having bigger hearts, wiser and more logical in decision making (men in general are more stubborn making wrong decisions), having softer and more beautiful bodies, coming to age faster (a 19 year old woman is more mature whereas most 19 year old men are still boys) not to mention they are sources of life. These facts go to the hearts of any idiotic stupid religion or ideology or persons which may consider women as inferior or second class or try to justify suppressing women. 

men are more logical

women are more emotional

men may be more disagreeable

but they are also more stoic

don't confuse disagreeableness for emotion over logic

and don't confuse agreeableness for logic over emotion

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

men are more logical

women are more emotional

 

Women are both more emotional and logical. They mature up much faster and make less mistakes in life.

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Women are both more emotional and logical. They mature up much faster and make less mistakes in life.

there are more women in the middle

and more men on the extreme's

the most logical and illogical are men

the women are mostly in the mushy middle

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Women are both more emotional and logical. They mature up much faster and make less mistakes in life.

Yeah, I personally think we'd be a lot better off if we put the women in charge. 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

other people are capable of thinking for themselves too

and many dead guys did just that

and had a huge impact on history

have a huge impact on the present

and will have a huge impact on the future

 

so if you want to be better at thinking for yourself

it's helpful to know when you are

and when you are actually just paraphrasing a dead guy's way of thinking

and are falsely assuming they had no influence on your own thinking or the thinking of others

No, saying they have influenced me is like saying you have influenced me.  I read your words, but I still disagree.

Not much influence there.

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Yeah, I personally think we'd be a lot better off if we put the women in charge. 

what evidence do you have to support that claim?

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, bcsapper said:

No, saying they have influenced me is like saying you have influenced me.  I read your words, but I still disagree.

Not much influence there.

you haven't read their words

yet repeat their talking points

plenty of influence there

[Guest]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

what evidence do you have to support that claim?

None whatsoever.  Other than Maggie, of course.

What evidence do you have to refute it?

[Guest]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

you haven't read their words

yet repeat their talking points

plenty of influence there

No I don't. 

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

None whatsoever.  Other than Maggie, of course.

What evidence do you have to refute it?

well historically speaking

there is no society where women were put in charge for extended periods

that was run better than most of the society's where men were put in charge for extended periods

so the current sample size works against outliers like Margaret Thatcher being the norm when women are put in charge

Edited August 7, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No I don't. 

you do all the time

you just never read them

so you remain oblivious to the fact that you are regurgitating their thinking

merely because it aligns with your own

[Guest]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

you do all the time

you just never read them

so you remain oblivious to the fact that you are regurgitating their thinking

merely because it aligns with your own

I think their thinking might align with mine sometimes.  If you say so.

Good to know, really.