bush_cheney2004 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: Would you have said that about Scalia not quitting during the Bush administration? And they stand to lose several in 2020. Justice Scalia was not in his mid to late 80's. And Clarence Thomas has communicated his willingness to retire strategically as well. I see...you only think about potential losses while ignoring the actual GOP gains in the U.S. Senate. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Would you have said that about Scalia not quitting during the Bush administration? And they stand to lose several in 2020. The Democrats wouldn't waste a second replacing Ginsberg if they were able. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Bernie Bros have a sudden new-found love for Joe Biden because Ginsberg died? If you insist...pass the joint. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: The Democrats wouldn't waste a second replacing Ginsberg if they were able. Nor did the waste a second nominating Merrick Garland. That's what this is about, not Ginsberg. Quote
Boges Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Bernie Bros have a sudden new-found love for Joe Biden because Ginsberg died? If you insist...pass the joint. They have a love for the ACA and Roe v Wade. Pragmatism has to win the day here. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: They have a love for the ACA and Roe v Wade. Pragmatism has to win the day here. Oooo...another joint. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Oooo...another joint. What a non response. More surrender. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: They have a love for the ACA and Roe v Wade. Pragmatism has to win the day here. Roe v. Wade is no longer the law of the land in the USA, and many subsequent laws and rulings have put limits on abortions. Where were all your "Bernie Bros" back then ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Boges said: What a non response. More surrender. November will tell, eh? You claim they'll get off the couch...I claim the weed is too good. You just don't like the frankness... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Roe v. Wade is no longer the law of the land in the USA, and many subsequent laws and rulings have put limits on abortions. Where were all your "Bernie Bros" back then ? Limits and banning are two different things. Quote
Boges Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, DogOnPorch said: November will tell, eh? You claim they'll get off the couch...I claim the weed is too good. You just don't like the frankness... Harris says she supports Legalization, perhaps that's enough motivation. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Harris says she supports Legalization, perhaps that's enough motivation. Harris throws folks in jail and tosses the key. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Limits and banning are two different things. Not at the access and services level. Hell, abortions are more readily available in the U.S. than in Canada, despite all the rhetoric. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just to do an honest assessment of the Senate Map in 2020. Dems likely take Arizona, Colorado and Main back from the GOP. The GOP likely take Bama back. That leave Iowa and Montana that are wide open races for the Democrats to take. Both are attainable. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Not at the access and services level. Hell, abortions are more readily available in the U.S. than in Canada, despite all the rhetoric. Baby killing isn't as fashionable as it used to be...or is it just me? 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted September 21, 2020 Report Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Just to do an honest assessment of the Senate Map in 2020. Dems likely take Arizona, Colorado and Main back from the GOP. The GOP likely take Bama back. That leave Iowa and Montana that are wide open races for the Democrats to take. Both are attainable. Reliable Poles...Reliable Hungarians. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Reliable Poles...Reliable Hungarians. So you're optimistic over a single election in 2016? This is a better reason to be optimistic. Iowa: Losing https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/ia/iowa_senate_ernst_vs_greenfield-7072.html North Carolina: Losing https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/nc/north_carolina_senate_tillis_vs_cunningham-6908.html Arizona: Losing Bad https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/nc/north_carolina_senate_tillis_vs_cunningham-6908.html Colorado: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/colorado/ And Maine: Losing https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/maine/ Who knows if Collins bailing on this SCOTUS nominee will help her. That's 5 seats the Dems were favoured to take from the GOP. So even if the GOP win Alabama back (Against a Football coach ) the Dems should take the Senate. Then they can give DC two Senators. Edited September 22, 2020 by Boges Quote
Boges Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 10 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Not at the access and services level. Hell, abortions are more readily available in the U.S. than in Canada, despite all the rhetoric. So is contraception because it's part of so many Health Insurance plans. The thing about Abortion in Canada is that there is no law legislating it. So it's kind of the wild west. I'm not saying it's good. But there's no political movement to have it banned. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Boges said: So is contraception because it's part of so many Health Insurance plans. The thing about Abortion in Canada is that there is no law legislating it. So it's kind of the wild west. I'm not saying it's good. But there's no political movement to have it banned. If there is no law in Canada then limiting access is accomplished by other means. The politics are superficial at best, while Canadian women still seek and get abortion services in the United States, just as they have done for decades. The sky-high myth of universal health care meets reality on the ground. Edited September 22, 2020 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: If there is no law in Canada then limiting access is accomplished by other means. The politics are superficial at best, while Canadian women still seek and get abortion services in the United States, just as they have done for decades. The sky-high myth of universal health care meets reality on the ground. Sure there are limitations when you make it Universal. BTW nothing to the Limitations when you allow a Private Insurance Company to dictate what people qualify for. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: Sure there are limitations when you make it Universal. BTW nothing to the Limitations when you allow a Private Insurance Company to dictate what people qualify for. I get it....the perception of universal health insurance and access to services is more important for the politics, especially in Canada. Nevermind that actual access to services in a timely manner is an entirely different reality. Why are Canadian women still seeking and getting abortions in the United States ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: I get it....the perception of universal health insurance and access to services is more important for the politics, especially in Canada. Nevermind that actual access to services in a timely manner is an entirely different reality. Why are Canadian women still seeking and getting abortions in the United States ? Because they can. Money talks. Why are women in the US sticking coat hangers inside them because they either don't have the means to travel to the one abortion clinic in their state or can't afford to have the procedure done. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Because they can. Money talks. Why are women in the US sticking coat hangers inside them because they either don't have the means to travel to the one abortion clinic in their state or can't afford to have the procedure done. Same reasons Canadian women do in backward provinces and territories. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 51 minutes ago, Boges said: So you're optimistic over a single election in 2016? This is a better reason to be optimistic. Iowa: Losing https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/ia/iowa_senate_ernst_vs_greenfield-7072.html North Carolina: Losing https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/nc/north_carolina_senate_tillis_vs_cunningham-6908.html Arizona: Losing Bad https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/nc/north_carolina_senate_tillis_vs_cunningham-6908.html Colorado: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/colorado/ And Maine: Losing https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/maine/ Who knows if Collins bailing on this SCOTUS nominee will help her. That's 5 seats the Dems were favoured to take from the GOP. So even if the GOP win Alabama back (Against a Football coach ) the Dems should take the Senate. Then they can give DC two Senators. You've nothing to worry about. There's simply no way Trump could win another term in office. Take the day off...like Joe. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted September 22, 2020 Report Posted September 22, 2020 Nancy Pelosi's brain apparently has a mind of its own and blurts out random words while being interviewed. Perfectly normal...according to Democrats. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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