"United" States?

[August1991]

12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Which war ?    Ask the Europeans why they started.

 

 

But not Quebec.   

 

 

Precisely.

Americans are like Lutheran Swedes. Practical, you avoid involvement - in small groups.

We Canadians are Roman Catholic. We follow instructions - in small groups.

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And in this case, we survive/die and your old people die/survive.

Edited March 28, 2020 by August1991

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, August1991 said:

Precisely.

Americans are like Lutheran Swedes. Practical, you avoid involvement - in small groups.

We Canadians are Roman Catholic. We follow instructions - in small groups.

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And in this case, we survive and your old people die.

 

Quebec = Roman Catholic "Zombies" during WW2

They survived too.

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Americans survived the hot summer of 2003.....75,000 old Europeans didn't.

 

 

[August1991]

33 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Quebec = Roman Catholic "Zombies" during WW2

They survived too.

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Americans survived the hot summer of 2003.....75,000 old Europeans didn't.

 

 

Canada = Roman Catholic

Joe Clark? RC.

Brian Mulroney? RC

John Turner? RC.

It is hard in Canada to become a federal PM unless you are Roman Catholic.

America? Only one, single, unique RC president : JFK - among 40 or so.

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But here's my general take on all this: 

It is not whether Black people vote for a Black guy, a Roman Catholic for a Protestant.

My take? When given the choice- people vote for the other guy, someone other than their "identity".

In federal Canada,, we've been doing this since 1892 when Thompson became our federal PM. (No one knows the name.)

Heck, the first PM of Ontario was Roman Catholic.

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If Joe Biden becomes a US President, he will be the second Catholic president. Our first Catholic PM dates from 1892.  

 

 

[bush_cheney2004]

30 minutes ago, August1991 said:

If Joe Biden becomes a US President, he will be the second Catholic president. Our first Catholic PM dates from 1892. 

 

Joe Biden will need (Black) Protestant votes to win....and atheists.   Catholics are split between Biden and Trump.

 

Edited March 28, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

[Rue]

14 hours ago, August1991 said:

Foreigners believe that America is one country. The President speaks for,  uh, America.

Americans know otherwise.

State laws matter more. Even the county matters.

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This virus is about to define the true nature of America to foreigners, and some fellow Americans.

 

 

Why is this an issue particular to the US?

[Tdot]

On March 27, 2020 at 6:51 PM, August1991 said:

b_c, you are in denial. This is different.

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I wondered why guys in the south fought guys in the north in 1861.

This is different.

How do you feel it is different?

IMHO it looks like the same old 'no unity' business as usual, since Ebola in 2014-'16 (regarding Republicans unfair to Obama) and also since 2017 when Trump took his oath.  Especially if you do experience any of the USA's big 4 tv networks or Sirius XM, it becomes very obvious how this is all about a power grab and it is not about uniting their country to defeat the pandemic.  

It's sad too, to see the U.S. President feel boxed-in to giving a live daily briefing, to the world, about what he and his Task Force do each day to combat the pandemic. 

And it's all because the liberal Dem's tv networks are politicizing the Coronavirus, instead of uniting the country to defeat the virus.     

Even the processes of that stimulus pkg their GOVT just passed, displayed the USA's treachery toward its own citizens if you honestly gauge the Dem's earmarks which held the bill up for the past week. Just look at the many things in the bill which Pelosi/Schumer tried to require altho they have nothing to do with the pandemic but everything to do with future 'politrix' if you will.

https://twitter.com/sentomcotton/status/1242169734763819011

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/12/white-house-report-nancy-pelosi-pressed-to-include-taxpayer-funding-of-abortion-in-coronavirus-stimulus/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/23/jobs-creators-network-calls-out-millionaires-pelosi-schumer-for-blocking-legislation-to-help-ordinary-americans/

 

Edited March 29, 2020 by Tdot

[Michael Hardner]

27 minutes ago, Tdot said:

How do you feel it is different?

IMHO it looks like the same old 'no unity' business as usual, since 2017. 

How about since the 1990s ?

Using Breitbart as a source is all we need to know about how much you value unity.  Please don't post here, thanks.

[Tdot]

26 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

How about since the 1990s ?

Using Breitbart as a source is all we need to know about how much you value unity.  Please don't post here, thanks.

I apologize, if you dislike where the truth/the facts come from.  And as far as me not posting here? Too late for that.  Especially, if it caused you to decide that now truths/facts should not be acknowledged ---whenever we don't like where the truth/the facts came from. And perhaps .......... Don't reply to my posts? That might make things a little easier for you here in a public forum.

And if you disregard those Breitbart links, that is okay too, but hey you'll get the same concept of reality from the Twitter link I posted there as well ---tweets by U.S. Senator Tom Cotton.

Edited March 29, 2020 by Tdot

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Tdot said:

1.I apologize, if you dislike where the truth/the facts come from.  

2.And as far as me not posting here? Too late for that.  

1. No, you are quoting bullshit sites.  There are enough real conservative sources, and Canadian ones.  

2. Not too late to leave.

[Charles Anthony]

Do not tell anybody not to post here. 

[Rue]

On 3/28/2020 at 4:21 AM, August1991 said:

Canada = Roman Catholic

Joe Clark? RC.

Brian Mulroney? RC

John Turner? RC.

It is hard in Canada to become a federal PM unless you are Roman Catholic.

America? Only one, single, unique RC president : JFK - among 40 or so.

======

But here's my general take on all this: 

It is not whether Black people vote for a Black guy, a Roman Catholic for a Protestant.

My take? When given the choice- people vote for the other guy, someone other than their "identity".

In federal Canada,, we've been doing this since 1892 when Thompson became our federal PM. (No one knows the name.)

Heck, the first PM of Ontario was Roman Catholic.

=====

If Joe Biden becomes a US President, he will be the second Catholic president. Our first Catholic PM dates from 1892.  

 

 

Mit Romney was defeated because the Evangelical Christian network that would have put him over the top and defeated Obama abandon him since he was a Mormon.  In hind sight I am not sure if there would have been that big a difference between Romney and Obama, I do not know but it was a fascinating example of how religion does impact. Obama as well had good planning knowing Romney would be deserted and he himself had planners use the inter-net in an unprecedented manner to mobilize black America to come out in record highs and vote.

Trump is an interesting phenomena. One could argue from a purely religious perspective he is a classic hedonist, i.e., Satanist although I do note interestingly since the outbreak of the virus he no longer uses the ok signal when he talks-rumoured to be his illuminati 666 hand signal. Anyone else notice. It just vanished. He went from using it constantly every 3 seconds to zero use of it. 

Biden's Catholicism I do not think will be a factor anymore than Trump's hedonism. In all itents and purposes  US politics is Godless and The House of Reps and Senate are Sodom and Gomorah ruled over by Donald. Biden is just a disgruntled displaced demon who wants the throne Obama once had and Donny now has. That throne is illusionary. Who the real Satan is and where her or his throne is, is anyone's guess. I know but I am sworn to secrecy. All I can tell you is the throne is porcelain.

[Tdot]

On March 27, 2020 at 6:45 PM, August1991 said:

Foreigners believe that America is one country...

This virus is about to define the true nature of America to foreigners, and some fellow Americans.

 

 

More proof of the anti-United way of politics in the States, which prefaced the COVID 19 disunity we see now, was at their SOTU Address  Trump gave.  It was televised in many nations that day, so potentially billions of people got to see the disrespect/disunity which one party has, for the other.

 

Yes many countries including the USA's insurgent foes/terrorist cells, got to see up close and personal the trifling behavior of Nancy Pelosi in representing the Dem party:

 

 

 

 

And to further sow the seeds of, disunity, the irresponsible network CNN exalted Pelosi for her juvenile delinquent behavior.

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by Tdot

[Charles Anthony]

Folks,

I took out some trash. 

Stay on topic and avoid derailing the discussion. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

On 3/29/2020 at 10:57 AM, Charles Anthony said:

Do not tell anybody not to post here. 

I believe that I *asked* someone not to post, and I even said "please".

[Boges]

Over 200 deaths again today. YIKES!!!

Gotta wonder if Americans see this as more of a Big City/New York problem, or a National problem. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

47 minutes ago, Boges said:

 Gotta wonder if Americans see this as more of a Big City/New York problem, or a National problem. 

At some point it will start to hit home.  Already some very well-known artists have been hit with this, and soon your neighbourhood too.  Please stay safe everyone.

[Rue]

On 3/28/2020 at 3:20 AM, August1991 said:

Precisely.

Americans are like Lutheran Swedes. Practical, you avoid involvement - in small groups.

We Canadians are Roman Catholic. We follow instructions .

No I am not and  will not..you sound like a pedophile Priest.

Americans are Satanists. Everyone knows that.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Rue

[Rue]

21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I believe that I *asked* someone not to post, and I even said "please".

Yah but do not tell anyone that.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Rue

[Rue]

21 hours ago, Boges said:

Over 200 deaths again today. YIKES!!!

Gotta wonder if Americans see this as more of a Big City/New York problem, or a National problem. 

 

I am serious is that a first world perspective? Far more people die in the world  from, malnutrition and  diaheria from poor health conditions and dirty water.

I am saying 200 is relative to what your reality is. You can be scared of it or put it in perspective and realize it could have been higher and that 200 came while thousands more recovered. 

Doesn't make it meaningless one is too many but we are gonna have to learn to do what many do and have done.. look death in the face and keep functioning. It's possible. Ask survivors of wars, torture, the holocaust, people in refugee camps...at times like these we need to read their stories of how they survived.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

18 minutes ago, Rue said:

Americans are Satanists. Everyone knows that.

 

True, but for different reasons.

Americans already went through this drill with Hurricane Katrina, exposing the weaknesses and politics of local vs. state vs. federal responsibility and control.  

In 2005, Mayor Ray Nagin had more than enough local resources to evacuate New Orleans residents but failed to use them, asking for the governor and feds to do it after the crisis worsened.

 

The U.S. system is designed to be bottom up, with local perspective and control that requests resources from the state and Feds with coordination.

The governor of Florida said it yesterday when he explained that he wouldn't ask Trump to do his job.

Edited March 31, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Rue said:

I am serious is that a first world perspective? Far more people die Iin  the world  from simple diaheria..you think maybe we see it based on a perspective of having taken our lifestyle for granted? This virus doesn't seem to only impact on them over there....warctakes on a different perspective when it arises in your own back yard. 

I am saying 200 is relative to what your reality is. You can be scared of it or put it in perspective and realize it could have been higher and that 200 came while thousands more recovered. 

Well it ended as close to 500. 

Almost 300 today. 

This is above and beyond death by "conventional" means as this virus is brand new. 

I think the idea that this, so far, has ravaged first world economies is more jarring. We simply haven't seen a disease take control of first world nations since the 2018 Spanish Flu. 

[August1991]

On 3/28/2020 at 11:56 AM, Rue said:

Why is this an issue particular to the US?

Unlike China, America is a federal state. As Churchill described India - it is a geographic place, like the equator. 

[August1991]

On 3/29/2020 at 7:40 AM, Tdot said:

How do you feel it is different?

I wonder how individual Americans will co-operate now.

And this made me think about how individual Americans chose to work together in 1860.

====

I reckon the South worked better together than the North. 

[August1991]

On 3/29/2020 at 12:40 PM, Rue said:

Mit Romney was defeated because the Evangelical Christian network that would have put him over the top and defeated Obama abandon him since he was a Mormon.  In hind sight I am not sure if there would have been that big a difference between Romney and Obama, I do not know but it was a fascinating example of how religion does impact. Obama as well had good planning knowing Romney would be deserted and he himself had planners use the inter-net in an unprecedented manner to mobilize black America to come out in record highs and vote.

Trump is an interesting phenomena. One could argue from a purely religious perspective he is a classic hedonist, i.e., Satanist although I do note interestingly since the outbreak of the virus he no longer uses the ok signal when he talks-rumoured to be his illuminati 666 hand signal. Anyone else notice. It just vanished. He went from using it constantly every 3 seconds to zero use of it. 

Biden's Catholicism I do not think will be a factor anymore than Trump's hedonism. In all itents and purposes  US politics is Godless and The House of Reps and Senate are Sodom and Gomorah ruled over by Donald. Biden is just a disgruntled displaced demon who wants the throne Obama once had and Donny now has. That throne is illusionary. Who the real Satan is and where her or his throne is, is anyone's guess. I know but I am sworn to secrecy. All I can tell you is the throne is porcelain.

Rue, blah-blah-blah.

You miss my basic point.

Canada is a civilised country because people from the majority (however defined) are willing to vote for someone from the minority (however defined).

We did it in 1892 when Protestants chose Thompson (a Roman Catholic) as leader, then Prime Minister.

We did it in 2008 when Quebecers chose Harper (an anglophone)  when offered a a francophone alternative.

[Tdot]

 

40 minutes ago, August1991 said:

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I reckon the South worked better together than the North. 

Yes, in 1860 it appears that the South worked better together ---at the huge task of hating Black people.  Which is why the South lost, and the US Slave Trade ended in 1863. 

This pandemic does not separate along racial lines, this pandemic has no regard for skin color.  Nonetheless the Dems have shown that they have no plans, on working together. The way the Dems have politicized the USA fight against the pandemic, is scary, plus it makes you wonder about repercussions that Canada will have to deal with.

Edited April 1, 2020 by Tdot