The Coronavirus

[Shady]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes we get the flu year after year after year but you might have noticed your story indicated no one could remember a year like 2017-2018. So again I ask where are the refrigerated trucks and mass graves and hospitals counting 600-700 dead from these outbreaks day after day after day, year after year after year.  Why wasn't there any mention of anything like that in your story?

Because this is more contagious and a bit more deadly.

[Shady]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Yes I was trying to get used to watching Fox News but I just couldn't take it. I'm still having to use eye drops and Beethoven still makes me puke.

Except Fox News isn’t telling you to bow down to your government overlords.  Remember, the ones you say can’t be trusted behind the scenes.

[Rue]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes we get the flu year after year after year but you might have noticed your story indicated no one could remember a year like 2017-2018. So again I ask where are the refrigerated trucks and mass graves and hospitals counting 600-700 dead from these outbreaks day after day after day, year after year after year.  Why wasn't there any mention of anything like that in your story?

The same reason there is not today about covid 19. Schizophrenia in 2018 will still be schizophrenia in 2020. Untreated your delusions would not have stopped. In fact many delusions repeat.

Edited April 18, 2020 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes we get the flu year after year after year but you might have noticed your story indicated no one could remember a year like 2017-2018. So again I ask where are the refrigerated trucks and mass graves and hospitals counting 600-700 dead from these outbreaks day after day after day, year after year after year.  Why wasn't there any mention of anything like that in your story?

 

Reefer trucks were used in Alberta just last year...before COVID19 hit:

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/bodies-stored-rented-trailer-medical-examiner-1.5278243

[eyeball]

18 minutes ago, Shady said:

Yep, just like I said, another few weeks and then our phases will kick in.  But ever ask yourself why it’s ok for everybody to go to the same grocery stores or pharmacies each week? 

Hopefully at one small phase at a time with up to 18 months to implement the rest.

We only have one grocery store here so figure it out yourself.

[Shady]

I’ll bevat the beach soon!

 

Preliminary results from government lab experiments show that the coronavirus does not survive long in high temperatures and high humidity, and is quickly destroyed by sunlight, providing evidence from controlled tests of what scientists believed — but had not yet proved — to be true.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/sunlight-destroys-coronavirus-very-quickly-new-government-tests-find-but-experts-say-pandemic-could-still-last-through-summer-200745675.html?guccounter=1

[Marocc]

53 minutes ago, Shady said:

High risk people can still self quarantine and resources can be focused on them.

The high-risk people who live with other not high-risk people, what are you gonna do about those?

[Shady]

Just now, eyeball said:

Hopefully at one small phase at a time with up to 18 months to implement the rest.

We only have one grocery store here so figure it out yourself.

Lol, nobody’s gonna be shut down for 18 months, not for something twice as bad as the flu.  Keep trying though, is the what your government overlords have told you?

[Rue]

Those are kosher beef carcasses going to a bar mitzvah. You 2 are nuts. 

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Reefer trucks were used in Alberta just last year...before COVID19 hit:

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/bodies-stored-rented-trailer-medical-examiner-1.5278243

From your link, 

Quote

Laville, the Justice spokesperson, said the storage problem was created by an unusually high percentage of new death cases at the end of last week.

So a one off incident....not day after day after day after year after year.

[Shady]

1 minute ago, Marocc said:

The high-risk people who live with other not high-risk people, what are you gonna do about those?

Then I guess they can stay quarantined.  But why should non high risk that live on their own, or with other non high risk have to?  It’s irrational and counter productive 

[Shady]

Just now, eyeball said:

From your link, 

So a one off incident....not day after day after day after year after year.

As usual, moving the goalposts.  It’s always a shell game.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

From your link, 

So a one off incident....not day after day after day after year after year.

 

Flu season doesn't last throughout the year....DUH !

[Shady]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Flu season doesn't last throughout the year....DUH !

Exactly. Even this virus, once summer hits, will effectively disappear except for a handful of cases once in a while.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, Shady said:

Lol, nobody’s gonna be shut down for 18 months, not for something twice as bad as the flu.  Keep trying though, is the what your government overlords have told you?

That's what they say the experts have been telling them. What's your plan if it is 18 months?

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, Shady said:

As usual, moving the goalposts.  It’s always a shell game.

No, several of you morons have been suggesting this is just as normal as any flu season we've seen for decades.

You just keep ignoring the one goalpost that's before you.  Evidence of decades of what we're seeing on TV every day after day after day.

Edited April 18, 2020 by eyeball

[Shady]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's what they say the experts have been telling them. What's your plan if it is 18 months?

My plan is to go outside, probably the beach during the summer.

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Flu season doesn't last throughout the year....DUH !

No but as I've had it suggested to me there are also waves of obese, diabetic, heart diseased etc etc etc people swamping ER's requiring mobile morgues and mass graves day after day  year after year after decade.

I mean with obese people you'd think there'd be pictures of tandem trailer trucks filled with bodies. So where are they?  

[Shady]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, several of you morons have been suggesting this is just as normal as any flu season we've seen for decades.

You just keep ignoring the one goalpost that's before you.  Evidence of decades of what we're seeing on TV every day after day after day.

Not one signal person had said it’s just like any flu season.  The debate was how far to restrict society and shutdown the economy.  We’ve never tried mitigation and social distancing while at the same time opening the economy.  Some people don’t think destroying people’s lives and livelihoods is necessary.  Some people think that we can still protect high risk people, while at the same time opening the economy but engaging in mitigation and social distancing practices.  Some people have brought up the flu and the deaths associated with it, to illustrate that tens of thousands of people die in Canada and the United States 50,000 - 60,000 each flu season, yet we don’t shut down anything, or even practice one ounce of mitigation or social distancing.  

[Shady]

Some people also suggest that there comes a point when the health of people being confined becomes an issue.  Huge increases in depression, anxiety, domestic violence, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and suicide.  I’m not sure why you don’t care about that.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Shady said:

My plan is to go outside, probably the beach during the summer.

Good, you should book a couple nights at my BnB. It's remote in the wilderness completely self-contained a good distance from the neighbours and just 5 min walk from a very quiet beach.  I'm sitting on what promises to be a gold mine compared to a vacation packed onto a cruise ship or crammed into a hotel. We'll be leaving disinfectant wipes for guests so they can wipe things down to their own comfort level.

I'm all for getting back to work too but not according to the laissez faire arguments that incorporate the utter horsehit, denial and avoidance of reality you people subscribe to. 

[dialamah]

29 minutes ago, Shady said:

No, it’s setting government policy now, and has been for weeks.  Inaccurate projections of fatalities, fatality rates and hospitalizations.  If you drive a car everyday, youre risking your life and your families.

As we learn more, gov policy can be fine tuned.  Acting too soon to open businesses/schools etc on incorrect info would be just as harmful as keeping things closed too long based on incorrect info.  Government is warranted making decisions based on what they see and know now because basing policy on unproven claims about the virus's contagion or death rate, either way, could lead to worse disaster.  

[Shady]

Just now, eyeball said:

Good, you should book a couple nights at my BnB. It's remote in the wilderness completely self-contained a good distance from the neighbours and just 5 min walk from a very quiet beach.  I'm sitting on what promises to be a gold mine compared to a vacation packed onto a cruise ship or crammed into a hotel. We'll be leaving disinfectant wipes for guests so they can wipe things down to their own comfort level.

I'm all for getting back to work too but not according to the laissez faire arguments that incorporate the utter horsehit, denial and avoidance of reality you people subscribe to. 

Again with your false premise.  Nobody is saying laissez faire.  Nobody.

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, Shady said:

Not one signal person had said it’s just like any flu season.

You just reacted to someone who did precisely that.

[dialamah]

4 minutes ago, Shady said:

Some people also suggest that there comes a point when the health of people being confined becomes an issue.  Huge increases in depression, anxiety, domestic violence, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and suicide.  I’m not sure why you don’t care about that.

Nobody cares when it's prisoners in solitary confinement becoming (even more) mentally ill, or if its disadvantaged/handicapped people who are confined to home for health or economic reasons.  Only now that it's affected "elites" is there concern expressed.

But given that even governments in the hardest hit countries are already starting to open things back up and BC (at least) is talking about mid-May, its hard to understand your complaint that a lockdown will last too long.