Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Lets do a poll. Do you think the virus is a man-made bioweapon? Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni warrior Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Still no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 How on earth did this end up being 3 threads. I was trying to edit. I want to delete the other threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Obviously you lost control of your creation and it started to spread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Nothing points to it being a bioweapon. But Chinese scientists were recently removed from a Canadian infectious disease lab by the RCMP. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567 Let's play story time. Imagine a country discovering or developing a deadly infectious disease, and then developing a vaccine for it. They give the vaccine to their citizens, disguising it as some other vaccine (the flu will be bad this year, everyone get their flu shots!). They could give the vaccine to their allies too. Then they unleash it on their enemies. the problem is the economic impact harms everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 I'll say that it is plausible that it escaped from China's French built virus lab in Wuhan, although they didn't engineer it, they might have been storing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Interesting: https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Here's a tweet from China's Spokesperson & Deputy Director General, Information Department, Foreign Ministry, trying to blame the US for COVID. They use the Russian conspiracy and propaganda website globalresearch.ca as evidence. The website is Canadian and run by a retired University of Ottawa professor who is of Russian descent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Everything they have done & said is exactly what they would do & say if they were trying to cover for an accident at the lab in Wuhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Everything they have done & said is exactly what they would do & say if they were trying to cover for an accident at the lab in Wuhan Well, China is certainly trying to control the message through propaganda. The US and China are having a tit-for-tat of expelling journalists from their countries. Just today: https://time.com/5805195/china-expels-journalists/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Well, China is certainly trying to control the message through propaganda. The US and China are having a tit-for-tat of expelling journalists from their countries. Just today: https://time.com/5805195/china-expels-journalists/ Well this is where you might get your military confrontation at some point, the only way to have a war is by misapprehension, miscalculation and/or mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) "Man made" or "engineered" is a canard The Chinese are not actually Masters of Bioweapons Engineering, nor has any Bioweapons program known of ever bothered to engineer what nature had already perfected Laboratory sample escaping containment however, that does sound like China, in fact they've had multiple breaches before from their lab in Beijing. Edited March 18, 2020 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Nothing points to it being a bioweapon. But Chinese scientists were recently removed from a Canadian infectious disease lab by the RCMP. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567 Let's play story time. Imagine a country discovering or developing a deadly infectious disease, and then developing a vaccine for it. They give the vaccine to their citizens, disguising it as some other vaccine (the flu will be bad this year, everyone get their flu shots!). They could give the vaccine to their allies too. Then they unleash it on their enemies. the problem is the economic impact harms everyone. I already thought about that. What if China gave it's citizens the vaccine, except a few didn't take it. China fakes an outbreak, so no one suspects China's behind it. China then gets more control of their citizens, and praised the surveillance state for saving their lives. They leave their border open and it spreads around the world. The Chinese then cut off medical supplies, economies around the world collapse, and China takes over. It's just one more reason why we should stop trading with China. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: "Man made" or "engineered" is a canard The Chinese are not actually Masters of Bioweapons Engineering, nor has any Bioweapons program known of ever bothered to engineer what nature had already perfected Laboratory sample escaping containment however, that does sound like China, in fact they've had multiple breaches before from their lab in Beijing. How do you know? This isn't the 80's anymore. The Chinese are geniuses with technology. They invent the most sophisticated hardware on the planet. You don't think a totalitarian government with trillions of dollars at their disposal, isn't capable of becoming masters of bio weapons technology? One report said that our Nukes, might not even be able to fire... Since they have been ageing for half a century. They've come out with nukes that can deflect interceptors, carrying 10 warheads, that hit multiple targets. If China went to war with the US, America would be destroyed. America looks powerful, but has nowhere near the capability of the Chinese. The only way America could have a chance, is to do a first strike, but they would literally have 30 minutes to shout down all the Dongfeng-41's. We worry about North Korea, but China is 100 times more powerful, and they don't need us anymore. They have a large middle class that can keep them going for decades. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: Well this is where you might get your military confrontation at some point, the only way to have a war is by misapprehension, miscalculation and/or mistake. Well that Neocon Mike Pompeo isn't helping. "We lied, We Cheated, We Stole". I don't know why Trump supported would ever put up with a guy like Pompeo. He's going around bragging calling it the "Wuhan Virus". Now that's fun for the common people, but don't be poking the hornets nest, when you're a head of State. If this is a bioweapon. I find it highly suspicious that both China and Iran, seem to be infected at the same time. Pompeo is looking for any new excuse to start a cold war... Anything to keep the military industrial complex happy. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: If China went to war with the US, America would be destroyed. America looks powerful, but has nowhere near the capability of the Chinese It's literally the opposite. China is not 10 feet tall, they are a paper tiger. America would f*ck their sh*t right up. Edited March 18, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: Well that Neocon Mike Pompeo isn't helping. "We lied, We Cheated, We Stole". I don't know why Trump supported would ever put up with a guy like Pompeo. He's going around bragging calling it the "Wuhan Virus". Now that fun of the common people, but don't be poking the hornets nest, when you're a head of State. If this is a bioweapon. I find it highly suspicious that both China and Iran, seem to be infected at the same time. Pompeo is looking for any new excuse to start a cold war... Anything to keep the military industrial complex happy. It is the Wuhan Virus. Next you're going to saying calling H1N1 1919 the Spanish Flu is racist, clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: How do you know? Because nobody is, it's largely science fiction as this juncture. For example the Chinese created a virus which fooled the scientists who decoded it into concluding that it was zoonotic? That's not how it works, if it was engineered it would not be a novel coronavirus, the engineered parts would be apparent to the team mapping it Edited March 18, 2020 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: It is the Wuhan Virus. Next you're going to saying calling H1N1 1919 the Spanish Flu is racist, clown. I love calling it the "Wuhan Virus" It's fun for us to trash them, but our politicians needs to tone it down, in unstable times. The problem is our politicians are more concerned with their big ego, than making good decisions. Rex Tillerson was far more level headed than Mike Pompeo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, ProudConservative said: I love calling it the "Wuhan Virus" It's fun for us to trash them, but our politicians needs to tone it down, in unstable times. The problem is our politicians are more concerned with their big ego, than making good decisions. Rex Tillerson was far more level headed than Mike Pompeo. Mike Pompeo is doing a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Because nobody is, it's largely science fiction as this juncture. For example the Chinese created a virus which fooled the scientists who decoded it into concluding that it was zoonotic? That's not how it works, if it was engineered it would not be a novel coronavirus, the engineered parts would be apparent to the team mapping it That's what the scientist have been saying, until the got shut down. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Mike Pompeo is doing a great job. No he's a complete idiot. We need to have back channels with China. Keep your friends close, and you're enemies closer. Pompeo is like a bit fat hick, you find in a bar. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, ProudConservative said: No he's a complete idiot. We need to have back channels with China. Keep your friends close, and you're enemies closer. Calling it the Wuhan Flu is not as big of deal as think it is. Pompeo is doing a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Calling it the Wuhan Flu is not as big of deal as think it is. Pompeo is doing a great job. I love hearing the term, but it's not necessary. It's making China really pissed off towards us. China's extremely powerful, and not in a really good mood right now. If we really wanna bring china down, we need to convince the world to relocate our supply chains. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: That's what the scientist have been saying, until the got shut down. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v2 Those spike proteins occur in nature, there's nothing backing up the assertion that it is man who inserted into the SARS-Cov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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