Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Which is why flattening the curve is such a stupid wishful thinking meme. Slowing the spread of the virus among low risk populations reduces the speed at which herd immunity is acquired and it increases the amount of viral generations by stretching out the length of time the virus sticks around, which increases the chances of mutation. Flattening the Curve could just be government pablum to try to keep the masses calm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, ProudConservative said: This is why it shouldn't take 18 months to make a vaccine. How is it impossible for the government to come up with a safe vaccine in 3 months? Rome wasn't built in a day. Wanting to come up with something quicker, does not make it so. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Flattening the Curve could just be government pablum to try to keep the masses calm. It is. But it's not working, and it's helping motivate the public to engage in counter-productive behavior that actually enhances the panic and increases the health issues that could arise. Backfire City, the more they do this, the higher the chances of it getting as bad as they imagine in their heads, self fulfilling prophecy style. Edited March 18, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: What percent chance this will lead to nuclear war? That's always on a sliding scale depending on the geostrategic situation The brink of nuclear war would come about by a naval blockade, freedom of navigation confrontation. That being said, things are vulnerable right now, so while they might not be at DEFCON 2, they're probably not at DEFCON 5 right now neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: If I were in Nunavut, and had all the food and water I need... If there was a mid-scale nuclear war, could I survive the fallout? You'd be better off going to Paraguay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Rome wasn't built in a day. Wanting to come up with something quicker, does not make it so. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug. You keep saying that... Just make a T-Shirt on Teespring and sell it, but quit annoying me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: You keep saying that... Just make a T-Shirt on Teespring and sell it, but quit annoying me I keep saying that because you prefer to view reality as you wish it was, instead of how it actually is, and then asking why it can't be the former instead of the later. Then when people explain to you why it can't be that way, you put your head in sand and ignore reality because it doesn't conform to your wishes. Talk about annoying. Edited March 18, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: You'd be better off going to Paraguay. Ok if 200 nukes go off around the world, and you're 2000 kilometers from the closest city.... what are your chances without seeking shelter? Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: I keep saying that because you prefer to view reality as you wish it was, instead of how it actually is, and then asking why it can't be the former instead of the ladder. Talk about annoying. I don't buy that excuse, even thought I'm tempted to out of convenience. If everyone thought the same as you did, you would have few of the freedoms you enjoy today. It's the people who gone against the grain, who have changed the world. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: If everyone thought the same as you did, you would have few of the freedoms you enjoy today. It's the people who gone against the grain, who have change the world. If everyone thought as I do, we'd have far more freedom than we currently do. It is people who don't ignore reality who change the world, not those who put their head in the sand and are blinded by wishful thinking. Ignoring reality because it isn't as you wish it was, that does not solve anything at all. Edited March 18, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, ProudConservative said: Ok if 200 nukes go off around the world, and you're 2000 kilometers from the closest city.... what are your chances without seeking shelter? It doesn't work like that. You have to calculate where the targets are then the prevailing winds from the targets I've already calculated that Cuidad del Este in Paraguay is the safest place on earth in the event of an interpolar countervalue exchange in the northern hemisphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) You have to go through the annoying stage, to have creativity. Generic dialog is dull. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: It doesn't work like that. You have to calculate where the targets are then the prevailing winds from the targets I've already calculated that Cuidad del Este in Paraguay is the safest place on earth in the event of an interpolar countervalue exchange in the northern hemisphere. I always though southwest Argentina would be the best place to be. I would say El Calafate. The Andes would block some fallout. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: You have to go through the annoying stage, to have creativity. Generic dialog is dull. You confuse being annoying with being creative, they are not the same thing. Constantly whining that the world is not working the way you want it to, that isn't creative at all, and it is far more dull than being a realist who tries to solve problems with actual workable solutions instead of pipe dreams that will never come to pass. Facts do not care about your feelings. If your feelings don't line up with the facts, the facts aren't going to bend to the will of your feelings, and hoping they will, that will simply lead to inevitable disappointment and a complete waste of your time. Edited March 18, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: I always though southwest Argentina would be the best place to be. No, the Russians will nuke the Falkland Islands ; British strategic base. There is also fallout coming from Australia, Patagonia is south of the Andes which shields Paraguay Edited March 18, 2020 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: No, the Russians will nuke the Falkland Islands ; British strategic base. There is also fallout coming from Australia, Patagonia is south of the Andes which shields Paraguay How long until it's safe to farm again in Kansas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Why not just be in the middle of the south Andes, and be shielded by both sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, ProudConservative said: How long until it's safe to farm again in Kansas? Depends on your definition of safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: Depends on your definition of safe. Meaning I have less than 50% chance of getting cancer within 10 years... if i'm in my 30's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, ProudConservative said: Why not just be in the middle of the south Andes, and be shielded by both sides? Cuidad del Este is remote, but not too remote, if you go too remote, you'll get killed by locals, you will want to stay in civilization with a police force. It also has fresh water supply, farms for food, and it's own power plant for electricity. It's also quite well developed, it's not a bad place to live, and it's far away from the crazier parts of South America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Dougie93 said: Cuidad del Este is remote, but not too remote, if you go too remote, you'll get killed by locals, you will want to stay in civilization with a police force. It also has fresh water supply, farms for food, and it's own power plant for electricity. It's also quite well developed, it's not a bad place to live, and it's far away from the crazier parts of South America. Well what's the best place on earth to protect you from radiation, other than the antarctic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, ProudConservative said: Meaning I have less than 50% chance of getting cancer within 10 years... if i'm in my 30's. Nowhere in the CONUS would be that safe, bone cancer would be rampant. It's the Strontium-90. It's like calcium so it bonds to calcium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) What's is the most dangerous city in south America? Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: Well what's the best place on earth to protect you from radiation, other than the antarctic? Cuidad del Este It's right in the sweet spot where the prevailing winds wont carry it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 You actually think Covid 19 could lead to a Thermonuclear war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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