Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 The prospect of mortal peril just gets me jacked up really, the live fire two way range makes life all the sweeter I enjoy everything more, living in the now like there's no tomorrow, that's the only way to live in the end So I'm actually having a great time in this war, that being said, I'm not going to make it easy on the enemy to take me down, so I am hunkered down in my bunker as it were Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Trump would never win New York (or California) anyway ! Either New York state has been doing a lot more testing, or it has a major problem....or both. https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/NY-has-10-times-the-coronavirus-cases-CA-has-Why-15154692.php Edited March 25, 2020 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump would never win New York (or California) anyway ! Either New York state has been doing a lot more testing, or it has a major problem....or both. https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/NY-has-10-times-the-coronavirus-cases-CA-has-Why-15154692.php It does seem to vary widely in effects by location, but no matter how many tests they are doing, that curve does look like the Italy curve Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 It's different kind of threat from thermonuclear weapons, none the less we are in a kind of Cuban Missile Crisis twilight here The storm might blow over, maybe it won't peak like Italy, but if it does, it will be too late to get out of the cities then Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: It does seem to vary widely in effects by location, but no matter how many tests they are doing, that curve does look like the Italy curve It looks like population density, distancing compliance, international travel, and voting for Democrats is a bad combination. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, Dougie93 said: It's different kind of threat from thermonuclear weapons, none the less we are in a kind of Cuban Missile Crisis twilight here The storm might blow over, maybe it won't peak like Italy, but if it does, it will be too late to get out of the cities then Not in my Cold War experience...at least then we had some control over the conflagration. That's why this pandemic dance is so destabilizing...little to no control. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Not in my Cold War experience...at least then we had some control over the conflagration. That's why this pandemic dance is so destabilizing...little to no control. I subscribe the McNamara conclusion that in the end, it was mostly blind luck Could have gone either way, Kennedy actually had to pull with all his might on the chicken switch to check it, they were scared to leave it to the SIOP Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 1979-1983 was much more dangerous than 1962 Because by that time the Soviets had the Delta's and no longer had to sit in the Yankee Box and there were 25,000 warheads on alert Edited March 25, 2020 by Dougie93 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: I subscribe the McNamara conclusion that in the end, it was mostly blind luck Could have gone either way, Kennedy actually had to pull with all his might on the chicken switch to check it, they were scared to leave it to the SIOP American and Russian strategic forces were designed to serve several gods....credibility....survivability...reliability...and safety. It takes a lot of coordinated effort to make it happen, but it has to happen within minutes. Pandemics don't care....they don't need a SIOP...just...time. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: American and Russian strategic forces were designed to serve several gods....credibility....survivability...reliability...and safety. It takes a lot of coordinated effort to make it happen, but it has to happen within minutes. Pandemics don't care....they don't need a SIOP...just...time. Tru, but as lethal as this bug can be for the Boomers and aging Gen X like me, it's not Castle Bravo Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 To your point tho, since it is an invader and it's inside the perimeter it doesn't need to be a Castle Bravo to have force multiplication effects It's definitely causing more chaos than the Cuban Missile Crisis without having to be World War Three Hence why we are mobilized beyond Cuban Missile Crisis levels to threshold World War Two level Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Tru, but as lethal as this bug can be for the Boomers and aging Gen X like me, it's not Castle Bravo That valid perspective has been lost in time...westerners have come to expect a minimum level of freedom and access. "Duck and cover' means nothing to younger folk, they don't know what civil defense means, or even what polio looked like. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That valid perspective has been lost in time...westerners have come to expect a minimum level of freedom and access. "Duck and cover' means nothing to younger folk, they don't know what civil defense means, or even what polio looked like. Not being on the Boomers with guys like you, I didn't have your levels of confidence of never actually making it to the event horizon by miscalculation If Zbig Brzezinski is to be believed, he issued a lawful order to launch on warning in 1979, and that sounds like DEFCON 1 to me Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Not being on the Boomers with guys like you, I didn't have your levels of confidence of never actually making it to the event horizon by miscalculation If Zbig Brzezinski is to be believed, he issued a lawful order to launch on warning in 1979, and that sounds like DEFCON 1 to me Making it to the event horizon constituted failure of MAD. No sane person wanted that, and we screened for that (Personnel Reliability Program), FBI background checks, and access limits. Ziggy wanted to sell books. Trump has far bigger things to worry about than nuclear war. Edited March 25, 2020 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Not to mention that, no matter how much you trust SBIRS to not screw the pooch, how much do you trust the rest of these clowns not to ? Oko Able Archer is the classic Dr. Strangelove the fate of the world rests in the hands of a wonky Soviet satellite which sees ICBM's which aren't there if the light hits its lens at the wrong angle scenario Edited March 25, 2020 by Dougie93 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Not to mention that, no matter how much you trust SBIRS to not screw the pooch, how much do you trust the rest of these clowns not to ? COVID-19 is biological, but it is not warfare. Nukes decapitate nations by design, so we shouldn't do it to ourselves over this virus. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump has far bigger things to worry about than nuclear war. I don't put much stock in the POTUS as savior, Party of Lincoln man as I may be, I don't believe in the imperial president coming to the rescue For me it's all about the Declaration of Independence preamble and the Well Regulated Militia defending their homesteads in the districts Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: COVID-19 is biological, but it is not warfare. Nukes decapitate nations by design, so we shouldn't do it to ourselves over this virus. It's warfare when I have been conscripted, which I have as of now, the difference between this and martial law is semantic and we are mobilized at the national level as for war Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I don't put much stock in the POTUS as savior, Party of Lincoln man as I may be, I don't believe in the imperial president coming to the rescue For me it's all about the Declaration of Independence preamble and the Well Regulated Militia defending their homesteads in the districts Indeed...Americans killed over 600,000 of themselves during the Civil War. Trump is tapping into the American spirit, not Cuomo's deepest fears. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Iceni warrior Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I don't put much stock in the POTUS as savior, Party of Lincoln man as I may be, I don't believe in the imperial president coming to the rescue For me it's all about the Declaration of Independence preamble and the Well Regulated Militia defending their homesteads in the districts If it wasn't for the fact he's a New Yorker he probably would have suggested nuking it like a hurricane by now. Burn the village to save the village Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, Iceni warrior said: If it wasn't for the fact he's a New Yorker he probably would have suggested nuking it like a hurricane by now. Burn the village to save the village Chaos is a ladder. Quote
Iceni warrior Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, Dougie93 said: Chaos is a ladder. You're right though, this is going to come in waves as they relax then reimpose lockdown with each new wave. Wuhan is relaxing now but the lockdown there was so effective 95% of them have had no exposure to the bug. China are the lab rats right now. Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said: You're right though, this is going to come in waves as they relax then reimpose lockdown with each new wave. Wuhan is relaxing now but the lockdown there was so effective 95% of them have had no exposure to the bug. China are the lab rats right now. You can't go by what the Communists are claiming that they are doing, they can disappear millions into black holes, we don't know what's going on behind the Bamboo Curtain It's flaring up in Hong Kong so it can jump back into Chicom territory from there right now, the PRC is getting new cases coming in from outside now Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 As an infantryman my main concern as always, is weather When me ol' pappy was dying he just wanted get back to one more summertime before he went, and he made it That's how I treat every year, Lord don't take me till summertime So the only thing I need to make this the loveliest war ever is sunshine and blue skies and warm weather Quote
Iceni warrior Posted March 25, 2020 Report Posted March 25, 2020 My highlight of the year is spring and my juggling convention. The juggling is put off till September if possible but the spring is still coming. Quote
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