DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Goddess said: No where did I state that "all Muslims" are wearing the shirt. No where did I state that "all Muslims" agree with the shirt. I agree that would be irresponsible. Which is why I didn't say any of those things. The 'All Muslims' argument is a red hearing. The Quran clearly states the goals of Islam regardless of how an individual Muslim might feel about the subject of World domination and subjugation of the Unbeliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The 'All Muslims' argument is a red hearing. Of course it is. I doubt anyone believes ALL 1.(whatever) billion Muslims all think and act the same way. Quote The Quran clearly states the goals of Islam regardless of how an individual Muslim might feel about the subject of World domination and subjugation of the Unbeliever. It's always interesting when they throw the "But Christians did something similar once." argument too. They are of course, correct. We KNOW from history that religion and religious texts have the ability to inspire some pretty nasty behaviour. Yet this is denied when it comes to Islam. For some reason, some people believe Muslims are immune to this human trait - that they can be taught repetitively that women are inferior and must cover themselves at all times in public, that kafirs are inferior and should be subject to Muslims and those who do not agree with Islam should die, that Islam is entitled to rule the world, that Jews are filth, that anyone who leaves Islam should die, that stoning, burning people alive and cutting off body parts are divine punishments - and that this has no effect on them. The funniest was when we were talking about the plight of women in Islam and I was told here that just because a Muslim man smacks his wife around, forces her to wear a burka when they go out (if he allows her out at all), and conditions her to accept her lower status by walking behind the man and allowing her own young sons to have authority over her - that it is Islamophobic of me to assume that that Muslim man doesn't agree with equality. It is racist of me to assume that he doesn't respect women. And that I'm a horrible person for thinking the religion that teaches him this is a shitty one. Yet, if a white man were to treat his wife that way, there would be no argument that it is abusive. Edited October 30, 2019 by Goddess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: Of course it is. I doubt anyone believes ALL 1.(whatever) billion Muslims all think and act the same way. It's always interesting when they throw the "But Christians did something similar once." argument too. They are of course, correct. We KNOW from history that religion and religious texts have the ability to inspire some pretty nasty behaviour. Yet this is denied when it comes to Islam. For some reason, some people believe Muslims are immune to this human trait - that they can be taught repetitively that women are inferior and must cover themselves at all times in public, that kafirs are inferior and should be subject to Muslims and those who do not agree with Islam should die, that Islam is entitled to rule the world, that Jews are filth, that anyone who leaves Islam should die, that stoning, burning people alive and cutting off body parts are divine punishments - and that this has no effect on them. The funniest was when we were talking about the plight of women in Islam and I was told here that just because a Muslim man smacks his wife around, forces her to wear a burka when they go out (if he allows her out at all), and conditions her to accept her lower status by walking behind the man and allowing her own young sons to have authority over her - that it is Islamophobic of me to assume that that Muslim man doesn't agree with equality. It is racist of me to assume that he doesn't respect women. And that I'm a horrible person for thinking the religion that teaches him this is a shitty one. Yet, if a white man were to treat his wife that way, there would be no argument that it is abusive. Yeah that's why the "wife beater" shirts are so popular nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Hudson Jones said: Coming in a month late for a response. The books seem to be pointing to one source in some European country. Whoever is wearing the shirt in that town (or two towns), and even if they may be "popular" in those town amongst the particular Muslim group, does not reflect all Muslims. I think it's irresponsibly to generalize like that. And yet the Left generalizes with rabid enthusiasm about the Right. If one Conservative or one PPC member does something or says something all the Lefties nod knowingly and say "That's what they're like, you know." Let a hundred thousand Muslims commit terrorist actions, though and the Left leaps to their defense and insists that must not reflect on all Muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 20 hours ago, Argus said: And yet the Left generalizes with rabid enthusiasm about the Right. /facepalm... It's only in the last decade at most that progressives have started dishing it back to conservatives, who've kicked and screamed thru every step of progress humanity has made since the left led our species out of the trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: /facepalm... since the left led our species out of the trees. face palm, for sure... Anything else you'd like to credit the 'left' with? Taming of fire? Invention of the wheel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, eyeball said: /facepalm... It's only in the last decade at most that progressives have started dishing it back to conservatives, who've kicked and screamed thru every step of progress humanity has made since the left led our species out of the trees. The left only knows as to how to go about destroying a "civil"ization rather than build it up and make things better for the world. What has lefty progressive Trudeau done for Canada since he became the prime mistake of Canada? Give me anything, will you? It was the right that brought the world civilization, and started to create and invent things that were great for humanity and progress. I am pretty sure that inventors like Alexander Bell or Marconi were not leftist in mind. If they were lefties, we would probably still not be talking to each other on the phone. We would do it the leftist liberal progressive way. Send up smoke signals or shouting out as loud as they can to get the other person to hear them. It's a long way from America to Europe. LOL. The leftist progressive liberals have done not a thing for humanity, except make things worse for humanity unless you can give me something on that? So? What is going on in France today is all thanks to the leftist progressive liberals and their socialist and communist ideas and programs that have turned parts of France into no go zones. This only started to happen after multiculturalism was introduced, and then forced on the french people who never asked for lieberal socialism and multiculturalism. I have yet to see where a huge majority of residents of any European country demanded that their country flood itself with Muslim third world immigrants and allow them to import their foreign culture and religions and beliefs. This was all done by the globalist elite, and all done behind their french backs. There were never any no go zones in France a decade ago. Even in London, England there are now no go Muslim zones. Europe is going to hell thanks to globalist enforcement of multiculturalism. Canada is no exception either. This could happen in Canada also in another decades or so. Hey, you never know, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: face palm, for sure... Anything else you'd like to credit the 'left' with? Taming of fire? Invention of the wheel? Yep. Beyond doubt these would have scared the shit of a conservative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, eyeball said: Yep. Beyond doubt these would have scared the shit of a conservative. The 'Left' and the 'Right' are creations of the French Revolution. Not something else. Before that, it was Ups and Downs...only...and as Wat Tyler so demonstrated, the Ups can not be trusted to stick to a deal giving out more power to those below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: The 'Left' and the 'Right' are creations of the French Revolution. Not something else. Yes words do matter and that's why I referred to progressives and conservatives... Edited November 1, 2019 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Yes words do matter and that's why I referred to progressives and conservatives... You're free to pretend such things existed in prehistoric times. You're good at pretending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 48 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: You're free to pretend such things existed in prehistoric times. You're good at pretending. You're saying conservatives weren't fearful until after the French revolution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 minute ago, eyeball said: You're saying conservatives weren't fearful until after the French revolution? I'm saying only idiots think Liberals and Conservatives existed in the Neolithic period...quack quack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I'm saying only idiots think Liberals and Conservatives existed in the Neolithic period...quack quack. Who said that? Edited November 1, 2019 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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