How dangerous is Trump?

[taxme]

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The problem is that a lot of Canadians (and Americans) know that they are being lied to but they are ok with it as long as it benefits their side. It's especially ok for Libs because it gives them something to bitch about, and they feel like that elevates them socially.  

Liberalism is a lot like being a born-again Christian: people feel like they instantly pull their reputation up from the gutter by bragging about their religious purity or their liberal superiority. 

Born again: "I used to rob houses, sell drugs, and I got a lot of people started on crack, but now I'm born again, so I'm going to lecture you on how to live."

Liberal: "I don't really know anything about foreign trade, foreign affairs, the economy, world history, religion, or socialism/capitalism but I really hate that guys like Brett Kavanaugh think that they can get away with attempted rape so I'm a Democrat, like Madonna. Trump is like, really really gross. Yeah I know that saying stuff like that proves that I'm like, totally ossummmm, but I don't do it for the instant recognition. I do it because I'm like, a bad-ass social justice warrior, ya know?" 

 

What is the difference between a puppy and a liberal?  After a few weeks the puppy quits whining.  

As far as I am concerned Trump is doing a pretty good job but yet liberals in America seem to want to go back to the Obama/Hillary days and keep getting shafted by those two and the democratic party that despises them all and only has contempt for them. A liberal will say: whip me some more for I have sinned. I dared the other day to think for myself. Liberals are nothing more than a bunch of intolerant crybaby and deplorable losers. Sad indeed. 

 

[Boges]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

What is the difference between a puppy and a liberal?  After a few weeks the puppy quits whining.  

As far as I am concerned Trump is doing a pretty good job but yet liberals in America seem to want to go back to the Obama/Hillary days and keep getting shafted by those two and the democratic party that despises them all and only has contempt for them. A liberal will say: whip me some more for I have sinned. I dared the other day to think for myself. Liberals are nothing more than a bunch of intolerant crybaby and deplorable losers. Sad indeed. 

If it was just Liberals, his approval rating wouldn't be in the 30's. 

[taxme]

18 minutes ago, Boges said:

If it was just Liberals, his approval rating wouldn't be in the 30's. 

One thing is for sure. Trump is no liberal. The economy is booming in America. Markets are up and they set records the other day.  What has your Canadian liberal prime mistake done for your economy and for you lately besides wanting to increase immigration?  I can see what Trump is doing for America to try and make it great again. Maybe you can tell me or anyone else here can tell me as to what Trudeau is doing or has done to try and make Canada great again these days. I really need to know and learn something from you. Over too you. 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

One thing is for sure. Trump is no liberal. The economy is booming in America. Markets are up and they set records the other day.  What has your Canadian liberal prime mistake done for your economy and for you lately besides wanting to increase immigration?  I can see what Trump is doing for America to try and make it great again. Maybe you can tell me or anyone else here can tell me as to what Trudeau is doing or has done to try and make Canada great again these days. I really need to know and learn something from you. Over too you. 

Canada's economy is doing quite well too. 

[Boges]

Also, the KPI's that Trump and his Ilk are using to indicate the great economy were derided as Fake News when Obama was president. 

AND because of tax cuts to billionaires. The deficit has ballooned. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-budget/u-s-government-posts-214-billion-deficit-in-august-idUSKCN1LT2XL

I remember a whole movement based around keeping deficit under control when Obama was president. Now that it's Trump . . . who cares. 

It's in Trumps nature to not pay his bills. 

Edited September 23, 2018 by Boges

[taxme]

6 minutes ago, Boges said:

Also, the KPI's that Trump and his Ilk are using to indicate the great economy were derided as Fake News when Obama was president. 

AND because of tax cuts to billionaires. The deficit has ballooned. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-budget/u-s-government-posts-214-billion-deficit-in-august-idUSKCN1LT2XL

I remember a whole movement based around keeping deficit under control when Obama was president. Now that it's Trump . . . who cares. 

It's in Trumps nature to not pay his bills. 

It's always still the same old, same old with you here? Keep knocking Trump who is not even your president. Go figure Just more typical whining and crying bull chit about Trump coming from another leftist liberal loser. Go figure. 

But besides that why have you not answered my question that I have asked of you? I will ask it again. What has your prime mistake done for you or Canada or Canadians that is starting to do great things for Canada and Canadians and you? is all that massive immigration making your life great or better?

Come on, give me something will you? Stop running and avoiding the question? Hello! 

It's in your prime mistakes nature to waste more Canadian tax dollars where we now cannot even pay our bills off anymore. You should be showing more concern about how Trudeau is taking your tax dollars and blowing them every day by the hundreds of millions. Why you always concern yourself about Trump and his not paying his bills, as if you know, is quite ridiculous looking indeed. Although Trump must be paying his bills because he still is in plenty of businesses that are all still up and running. So, why don't you just try and quit with your constant Trump bashing. It is getting quite tiring and boring to have to listen too. Chuckle-chuckle. 

 

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

It's always still the same old, same old with you here? Keep knocking Trump who is not even your president. Go figure Just more typical whining and crying bull chit about Trump coming from another leftist liberal loser. Go figure. 

But besides that why have you not answered my question that I have asked of you? I will ask it again. What has your prime mistake done for you or Canada or Canadians that is starting to do great things for Canada and Canadians and you? is all that massive immigration making your life great or better?

Come on, give me something will you? Stop running and avoiding the question? Hello! 

It's in your prime mistakes nature to waste more Canadian tax dollars where we now cannot even pay our bills off anymore. You should be showing more concern about how Trudeau is taking your tax dollars and blowing them every day by the hundreds of millions. Why you always concern yourself about Trump and his not paying his bills, as if you know, is quite ridiculous looking indeed. Although Trump must be paying his bills because he still is in plenty of businesses that are all still up and running. So, why don't you just try and quit with your constant Trump bashing. It is getting quite tiring and boring to have to listen too. Chuckle-chuckle. 

 

I don't support Trudeau. I think he's about as feckless and useless at Trump is. Both Canada and the US economy are doing well in spite of their weak leader.  

Also, this is a thread about Trump. So I'm talking about Trump. 

But while you're on about wasting taxpayer money. Can you comment at the level of the US deficit vs Canada's? But it's far bigger. 

Edited September 23, 2018 by Boges

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

I remember a whole movement based around keeping deficit under control when Obama was president. Now that it's Trump . . . who cares.

 

...and I remember record deficits when Obama was president.

[taxme]

22 minutes ago, Boges said:

I don't support Trudeau. I think he's about as feckless and useless at Trump is. Both Canada and the US economy are doing well in spite of their weak leader.  

Also, this is a thread about Trump. So I'm talking about Trump. 

But while you're on about wasting taxpayer money. Can you comment at the level of the US deficit vs Canada's? But it's far bigger. 

 

I do not see anywhere as to how Trump can be seen by you as feckless and useless. Your prime mistake fits into that column of people who are feckless and useless. Canada is just rolling along and appears to be still going deeper in debt. And taxes keep increasing and the government keeps borrowing money from the banksters all the time which must be the reason why Canada has not gone bankrupt just yet. Pretty soon there will be no more money left in the piggy bank for our government to get their hands on and blow. Then what are you going to do, eh? 

I know that this thread is about Trump. But I just cannot figure out as to why Canadians like yourself get all up tight over what Trump says or does. Trudeau is the one that Canadians here should be talking and be more concerned about rather than with Trump. You need to give it up about Trump. He is not your president. Get it?  It's really pathetic to see all this whining and crying about Trump coming from Canadians like you. You first should be looking into your own Canadian cluttered up back yard and not an American cluttered up back yard. 

I am always on here and is always willing to talk about the wasting of billions of our tax dollars more than you ever have done. You apparently do not give a chit. Typical who cares Canadian attitude. You pay the GST on just about everything because the government cannot stop from spending your tax dollars. Hello. 

Nope, I cannot comment on deficits but I will say this. It is all bull chit. There should be no debt or deficit where you say that Canada is doing just fine. Canada should be a wealthy superpower and we all should be rich but instead it is a bankrupt deep in debt country. The American markets are breaking records, unemployment is at an all time low. Thousands off food stamps. It sure looks like Trump is doing something right something that the lefty Canadian liberal socialists do not want to talk about. Probably too embarrassed or ashamed to want to do so. Come on, Canada is not the dream paradise that you think that you are living in. You are getting by and that is all. It's a a country preparing itself to end up going down the tubes and into the swamp. 

 

[Boges]

16 hours ago, taxme said:

 

I do not see anywhere as to how Trump can be seen by you as feckless and useless. Your prime mistake fits into that column of people who are feckless and useless. Canada is just rolling along and appears to be still going deeper in debt. And taxes keep increasing and the government keeps borrowing money from the banksters all the time which must be the reason why Canada has not gone bankrupt just yet. Pretty soon there will be no more money left in the piggy bank for our government to get their hands on and blow. Then what are you going to do, eh? 

I know that this thread is about Trump. But I just cannot figure out as to why Canadians like yourself get all up tight over what Trump says or does. Trudeau is the one that Canadians here should be talking and be more concerned about rather than with Trump. You need to give it up about Trump. He is not your president. Get it?  It's really pathetic to see all this whining and crying about Trump coming from Canadians like you. You first should be looking into your own Canadian cluttered up back yard and not an American cluttered up back yard. 

I am always on here and is always willing to talk about the wasting of billions of our tax dollars more than you ever have done. You apparently do not give a chit. Typical who cares Canadian attitude. You pay the GST on just about everything because the government cannot stop from spending your tax dollars. Hello. 

Nope, I cannot comment on deficits but I will say this. It is all bull chit. There should be no debt or deficit where you say that Canada is doing just fine. Canada should be a wealthy superpower and we all should be rich but instead it is a bankrupt deep in debt country. The American markets are breaking records, unemployment is at an all time low. Thousands off food stamps. It sure looks like Trump is doing something right something that the lefty Canadian liberal socialists do not want to talk about. Probably too embarrassed or ashamed to want to do so. Come on, Canada is not the dream paradise that you think that you are living in. You are getting by and that is all. It's a a country preparing itself to end up going down the tubes and into the swamp. 

 

It's really an accomplishment that you can type so much and say nothing new. This is the same commentary as your last post.

- Canadians STFU about Trump
- JT sucks
- I will not comment on the hypocrisy of supporting the GOP's apparently love of deficit spending now that Trump is in the office. 

[Wilber]

I don’t like governments that rely on deficit spending but.

US federal deficit, 50 times Canada

US federal debt, 35 times Canada

US per capita federal debt, $62,000 USD

Canadian per capita  federal debt, $32,000 CAD

Debt to GDP, US #10, Canada #20

The only reason the US can get away with this is because the world still sees the USD as the world reserve currency, is willing to buy US debt and allows the US to print money at a rate no other country can. That can’t last forever.

Edited September 24, 2018 by Wilber

[taxme]

On 9/24/2018 at 6:02 AM, Boges said:

It's really an accomplishment that you can type so much and say nothing new. This is the same commentary as your last post.

- Canadians STFU about Trump
- JT sucks
- I will not comment on the hypocrisy of supporting the GOP's apparently love of deficit spending now that Trump is in the office. 

As if you do not repeat the same things about Trump over and over and over again. It has gone beyond ridiculous. 

Indeed, Canadians should STFU  about Trump. Trump is not their president. JT sucks big time. Read what i said above and read it over again and give a reply to it.

There I repeated myself again just for you to whine about. 

Edited September 25, 2018 by taxme

[WestCanMan]

On 9/23/2018 at 12:28 PM, Boges said:

Canada's economy is doing quite well too. 

Our Canadian economy is tied to the American economy. When they go up, we go up too.

I can't speak for the rest of the country but in BC our economy is based mainly on real estate, and that's pretty sad.

If you just count real estate, financing, construction & related services that's the bulk of our economy. Very little of our economy here is based on manufacturing, forestry, fishing, agriculture, mining, etc. I don't know what percentage of the money coming into BC from outside of Canada is for the purchase of real estate but it's probably the lion's share.

I know hundreds of people, none of them have jobs that bring money into BC from outside. Teachers, Realtors, mortgage brokers, lawyers, people who work in various fields of construction and renovations, hair dressers, people who work in grocery stores, drive trucks, work for the railway, home inspectors, tech people, medical professionals, police & corrections, advertising,  etc. Some of my family members in Alberta worked for coal mines and plants west of Edmonton but those jobs are gone, or going away soon thanks to the Libs/NDP. I have a cousin in Alberta who works on oil rigs but his job is obviously in Trudeau's crosshairs. Those are Alberta jobs anyways.

My neighbour across the back alley is a welder and he was working on pipelines, no joke, but I doubt they do much of that right now. Unless of course their pipelines are for raw sewage to go into the ocean.

I'm thinking that if the real estate industry here tanks for a while BC is royally screwed. 

[Boges]

That's the most anecdotal thing I've ever read. Try backing your claims up with a Cite or two. 

Ontario has seen a resurgence in manufacturing jobs due to the lower dollar. Something that is threatened with Trump's tariffs. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Boges said:

That's the most anecdotal thing I've ever read. Try backing your claims up with a Cite or two. 

Ontario has seen a resurgence in manufacturing jobs due to the lower dollar. Something that is threatened with Trump's tariffs. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/608359/gdp-distribution-of-british-columbia-canada-by-industry/

[Boges]

That addresses the first issue you presented. I guess everyone's gotta live somewhere right? 

Here's Ontario https://www.statista.com/statistics/607895/gdp-distribution-of-ontario-canada-by-industry/

[Rue]

I truly believe Donald Trump has serious psychiatric issues. The symptoms are there and done of it could be from stress and neurological issues. He has all the classic signs of:

1-first to second stage Alzheimer's or sundowning as its sometimes referred to;

2- attention deficit hyperactivity disorder;

3-narcissistic personality disorder;

4-depressive mood disorder;

5-dyslexia.

Trump has done some very disturbing things. He's been shown to be unable to read. His briefings are limited to one, double spaced, bullet form set of notes with graphics and maps because he can not read sentences. This explains why he goes off script and is unable to read script. He can not read which strongly suggests dyslexia.

His syntax is broken, fragmented, disjointed, and each sentence contradicts the one before it. The comments don't follow in any order and are not connected in context to one another. He does not finish any one complete thought when speaking suggesting attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and an inability to control, inhibit, or manage emotional impulses such as rage, anger, or feelings or urgency.

He constantly refers to himself as the best. The bragging has become so extreme the United Nations laughed at him yesterday in  a speech he gave boasting about how much he has done.

He is also at the point where he exits an airplane and walks past it oblivious to where it is and gets into his car and shuts the door forcing his wife to walk around the car for the other side and open it herself...not to mention he walks far ahead of his wife getting into or out of a plane and stood right next to his wife and apologized for her not being there with him.

His rally speeches are so bad his local followers now ask for clarification of  what he speaks of.

As for us in Canada he calls our trade with the US abusive and threatens to scrap nafta while the business lobbies and groups in Washington, openly tell him he can not refuse a trade deal with Canada as it would hurt the US and try tell him there are US mid term elections where 2 House of Representative members, 2 Senate members and a governor for each state is running for elections in October.

He seems oblivious to the fact that 38 of 50 states have Canada as their no.1 trade partner. Does  he want to run the risk of blowing up the deal and have a demo backlash vote them all in?

Go see interviews of Trump twenty years ago compared to today. You will see he speaks differently. I think he has Alzheimer's and possibly had a minor stroke. Certainly his inability to hold water in a bottle in one hand shows a serious neurological disorder. He can not unscrew water bottle tops and requires two hands two drink. This is serious. To think he has his finger on the big bombs is scary.

 

 

Edited September 26, 2018 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

2 hours ago, Rue said:

....He seems oblivious to the fact that 38 of 50 states have Canada as their no.1 trade partner. Does  he want to run the risk of blowing up the deal and have a demo backlash vote them all in?

 

So what ?   No U.S. state is so dependent on export trade with a single nation as are several Canadian provinces (e.g. Ontario, New Brunswick).

The United States is not an exports driven economy.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/how-much-trade-leverage-does-canada-really-have-with-united-states/article34014567/

Edited September 26, 2018 by bush_cheney2004

[Rue]

LOL. Mr. BC YOU FORGOT THE OTHER MAPS IN THE SAME ARTICLE.

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, Rue said:

LOL. Mr. BC YOU FORGOT THE OTHER MAPS IN THE SAME ARTICLE.

 

I provided the link for all to see.   

Canada has been pushing this ""38 states" crap for over a year....Trump still put tariffs on Canada.

LOL....

[Rue]

To see how many US jobs depend on trade with Ccanada take a look at:

www.canadianbusiness.com/economy/this-is-exactly-how-many-american-jobs-depend-on-depend-on-canada-us-trade/

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, Rue said:

To see how many US jobs depend on trade with Ccanada take a look at:

www.canadianbusiness.com/economy/this-is-exactly-how-many-american-jobs-depend-on-depend-on-canada-us-trade/

 

Don't care...some Canadians famously love to say that Americans can't even find Canada on a map.

Better check the latest U.S. unemployment rate...far better than in Canada.

[Rue]

20 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

I provided the link for all to see.   

Canada has been pushing this ""38 states" crap for over a year....Trump still put tariffs on Canada.

LOL....

How is it crap look at the other maps? Do you want to live in la la land with Donald and pretend those states on the map are not dependent on Canada to sell their products not to mention generate jobs? GOOD. Write that tradevand jobs off. You want to pretend there is a 17 billion dollar deficit because the US says so? Do that to. Save the b.s. for someone else. Canada sells 99% of our oil, to the US forcing us to import it. I Invite anyone to do their one research and see just how much we buy and sell with the US. There is no abuse by us the t is an out and out lie. Go on Bush do business with you Presidents buddies in Russia and North Korea. But bye. I think Canada has needed to offset it's dependency on the US for years. This will hopefully encourage us to do so. 

I believe the current US President has zero clue about trade with Canada and farts out loud trying to sound tough when he has no clue just how dependent those US states you laugh off are. Laugh off their governors who stated what I did, laugh of the US Chamber of Commerce  and all your business executives. Laugh laugh laugh.

Edited September 26, 2018 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, Rue said:

How is it crap look at the other maps. Do you want to little in la la land with Donald and pretend those states on the map are dependent on Canada to sell their products Not to mention generate jobs? You want to pretend there is a 1 7 billion dollar deficit because the US says so? Save the b.s. for someone else. Canada sells 99% of our oil, to the US forcing us to import it. I Invite anyone to do their won research and see just how much we buy and sell with the US. There is no abuse.

 

That's Canada's sorry ass problem and fault for being so dependent on U.S. export trade and American foreign direct investment (FDI).  Hell, Americans already own 50% of Canada's manufacturing base.

Canada (and Mexico) are not as diversified for export trade as is the USA...they are one trick NAFTA ponies.

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I believe the current US President has zero clue about trade with Canada and farts allowed trying to sound tough when he has no clue just how dependent those US states you laugh off are. Laugh off their governors who stated what I did, laugh of the US Chamber of Commerce  and all your business executives. Laugh laugh laugh.

 

I agree...he doesn't care at all, and neither do I.    LOL !

[Rue]

It is clearly we Canadians who must take responsibility for our US dependency. You are absolutely right. I do think however your President is mentally ill and dettached from reality and the realities of a global market place. He is a delusional sociopath who thinks he can bully and control everyone and dismiss and insult anyone who does not feed his ego.

He is self destructing and he's doing serious harm to the US. To see the US President laughed off at the UN was as sad as it gets. If you care about your nation at least have the integrity to point  out his lies, falsehoods and question and challenge his abusive language, abusive public behaviour of his wife, his nonsensical ramblings, his inability to grasp the most basic of human behaviour skills.

If you find his behaviour siding with Putin over his own country's intelligence services and FBI iacceptable say so. He's compromised by the Russian mob.

He now has turned today from using Canada as his scapegoat to China saying China is why everyone should not vote for democrats accusing China of meddling in the mid term elections. He is a true sociopath. He turns the very behaviour he is guilty of on others to try take attention away from himself.

China is a tough and often ruthless trader yes. We all know that. What makes China any different than what Trump stands for?

You have a leader who talks, sounds and engages in references no different than Mussolini and Hitler. How far he intends to go we shall see.

I think the Congress and the entire US civil service and Armed Forces and enforcement agencies know Trump is a security risk and now have no choice but to contain him. I think his last straw was attacking his own Attorney General and making a fool of himself at the UN with a childish nonsensical non policy speech that sounded just like the one Mummar Ghadafi gave.

 

Edited September 26, 2018 by Rue