Justin Trudeau = Franz-Joseph, Donald Trump = Adolf Hitler

[August1991]

On Side A (Trudeau Jnr), a multicultural / multilingual society is viable.

On Side B (Donald Trump), we have to build a wall.

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Iceland, Norway, Japan have walls.

The only places/continents in the world where people truly mix is South America, North America.

Africa? Few go there.

[WestCanMan]

Trudeau is a faux humanitarian (protects islam tooth and nail but doesn’t care when hate rallies against Jews call for genocide) who doesn’t care about “Canada”, he cares about “getting elected”. Somehow fake virtue signalling seems to have replaced policy as the number one election issue, and opening our border & our vast welfare vault to anyone and everyone seems like a great idea to his mindless followers. So does calling Canadians racist and pandering to Hollywood elites who fly in on personal jets to lecture us about how bad oil is for the environment  

Trudeau’s first term will be remembered for unsustainable amounts of debt and the killing off of our energy sector. He couldn’t have done more damage to this country if he tried.

 

Trump is a faux law and order president (loves cops, hates rules) who, like Bill Clinton, couldn’t keep it in his pants. 

He puts America first though, and he is far more pragmatic than politically correct. He also realizes that America has lots of willing, legal immigrants to choose from and that it’s better to give many, many people aid where they are then bring in far fewer people and provide them with food, medicine, shelter, health care, and dental care indefinitely.

People who talk about how bad Trump’s wall is are some of the dumbest people on earth: they say they don’t need a wall because it is too expensive and they think that it’s cheaper to just hire more people to patrol the border. That saves money over the course if a year or two, but over the course of ten, twenty or fifty years the savings of a wall are massive. The wall is also more effective. Those same people who talk about hiring more ICE agents also want to abolish ICE lol. 

[eyeball]

On 8/25/2018 at 3:17 PM, WestCanMan said:

Trudeau is a faux humanitarian (protects islam tooth and nail but doesn’t care when hate rallies against Jews call for genocide

Given its your ideological end of the spectrum doing all the hating he's probably reasoned its better to just let it keep making a complete ass of itself.

As for him protecting Islam tooth and nail, go tell it to Muslims being killed with the Canadian made weapons he's selling.  He's pretty faux alright, I'll agree with you there.

Edited September 5, 2018 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Given its your ideological end of the spectrum doing all the hating he's probably reasoned its better to just let it keep making a complete ass of itself.

As for him protecting Islam tooth and nail, go tell it to Muslims being killed with the Canadian made weapons he's selling.  He's pretty faux alright, I'll agree with you there.

You're the one who openly supports groups that commit terrorism and calls for genocide, not me. The Israelis and US have never talked about genocide as a solution.

I wouldn't even care about islam or the atrocities of Mohammed if the muslims weren't so intent on blowing up random people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_January_2018

156 terrorist attacks in January 2018. It's just an average month. Check any month you want. I haven't even looked at that month, for all I know 10% of the attacks were by non-muslims.

 

[betsy]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You're the one who openly supports groups that commit terrorism and calls for genocide, not me.

 

that's consistently so.   .....maybe, you're debating with an imam?

[JamesHackerMP]

First of all, you've picked a bad example in calling Trudeau a "Franz Joseph". Kaiser Franz-Joseph I was a reactionary emperor, not the kind of guy who talks of multiculturalism.

I'm willing to bet, however, that you mean Franz FERDINAND, the crown prince and Archduke of Bosnia-Herzegovina. If so, you're doubly wrong.

F.F. was also reactionary. He spoke of promoting the rights and privileges of the other ethnic minorities of the realm, yes. However, it was a bloody ruse. What he resented was the Hungarians having an equal say in the empire. He couldn't stand Hungarians having an equal say with ethnic Germans. So by promoting--or pretending to promote--the other non-German minorities, he was screwing the Hungarians over. He even came up with a map to show how the Austro-Hungarian Empire could become the United States of Greater Austria. Basically it took control of the empire away from the Hungarians, to the benefit of ethnic Germans. Restore the "old order" prior to the Ausgleich.

Maybe in that respect, he is like Justin Trudeau (i.e., a good showman).

Edited September 13, 2018 by JamesHackerMP

[August1991]

On 9/12/2018 at 11:23 PM, JamesHackerMP said:

First of all, you've picked a bad example in calling Trudeau a "Franz Joseph". Kaiser Franz-Joseph I was a reactionary emperor, not the kind of guy who talks of multiculturalism.

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I did not call Trudeau a "Franz Joseph". But I would have. If anything, Trudeau Snr wondered as I do now - and frankly, Trudeau Snr was more a federalist than a democrat.

The Austrian-Hungarian Empire was a successful multi-cultural society. Most people spoke German - like in Canada/the World today speaking English. It worked. Most people lived good lives.

And then Summer 1914 arrived and millions of men decided to follow their duty, and this civilized society - Europe itself - fell apart.

Why? After 100 years of peace, why another cataclysm?

 

Edited April 8, 2019 by August1991

[Yzermandius19]

A Trump is Hitler thread, how original. Godwin's Law is a helluva drug.

Reductio ad Hitlerum, for the fail.

Edited April 8, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[August1991]

On 4/8/2019 at 4:35 AM, Yzermandius19 said:

... Godwin's Law is a helluva drug.

....

Guilty.

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The American Left believes that Trump is a "Nationalist".

And many people believe that Trudeau Jnr is a "Cool Guy".

What's the difference?

[Armchairprophet]

On 4/12/2019 at 2:23 AM, August1991 said:

Guilty.

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The American Left believes that Trump is a "Nationalist".

 

Which ironic considering how many of them were willing to elect a Jewish person who espouses the benefits of what is effectively National Socialism. 

[August1991]

On 4/25/2019 at 9:54 AM, Armchairprophet said:

Which ironic considering how many of them were willing to elect a Jewish person who espouses the benefits of what is effectively National Socialism. 

Pierre Trudeau, a Catholic, was elected in TMR, a largely Jewish riding.

Donald Trump, a Protestant, came from Manhatten, a largely Jewish city.

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I reckon that if people in a minority vote for someone else, I respect their choice.

[Armchairprophet]

23 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Pierre Trudeau, a Catholic, was elected in TMR, a largely Jewish riding.

Donald Trump, a Protestant, came from Manhatten, a largely Jewish city.

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I reckon that if people in a minority vote for someone else, I respect their choice.

I take it you missed the irony of a Jewish person espousing the benefits of National Socialism?

[August1991]

41 minutes ago, Armchairprophet said:

I take it you missed the irony of a Jewish person espousing the benefits of National Socialism?

Irony? Acp, you must be Jewish.

I'm not.

But I understand this great invention of western civilisation: sarcasm. The first step in understanding, uh, irony.  

Edited April 30, 2019 by August1991

[зорька]

Wow! Good comparison. Fact is that multicultural/multiracial societies can exist and prosper, being even decently places to live in. Canada is undisputebly THE success from that point of view. Canada proved that possible, at least that's my experience and my conclusion. Where multicultural liberalism fails is in protecting the globally endangered race of white people. They have no place on earth to be protected as a fragile community.  Somehow the extreme right, and many ordinary people of white race, feel sorely that loss. Trudeau can make do admirably in economy and social services with al black and colored people he and the Liberal party dumps on Canada each year in huge waves of immigration, because there is no clearly superior or clearly inferior race, so the economy and the social services function relatively well. But this solution to the suicidal drive of the white race people cannot prevent is the monstruos "uglyization" of Canadian population. Some 30 yrs ago, one could easily compare canadian women with european women - today no more.  Living for the last 2 decades in Canada I witnessed that transformation for the worse: more and more rarely one can look at and desire a young girl seen on the street or elsewhere. Someone told me something that resonated frightening in my conscience because it put words in what I vaguely felt: Canada is one of very few sad places on Earth where you have more wish to sleep with the "vieilles peaux" of 50-and-more-years, than with the young girls of age 18 or in the twenties. As a mixed race person (in European sens of term, white mother + middle-eastern-looking father) myself, I suppose that this prefernce transcend the races: black people too prefer white women, at least that's what one can concude from the statistical fact that 1 in 4 blacks marry a white woman, meanwhile less than 1% of whites and asian boys marry a black girl (still 1 in 10 white men marry an asian woman) . Rationally speaking, liberals can aknowledge and right this situation, eventually by creating friendly policies for the white couples, but ideological dogmatism impede such a social engineering that in the past helped right the imbalancies and discrimination of colored people. "Farming" whites , for the beauty sake, it is unfortunately the only method left to save in extremis these pandas of the human species... Otherwise many ordinary men of any races will continue to prefer to masturbate warching clips on pornhub than going out and f. with some women from the available offer Trudeau and the LP built here over the last decades. Scores of black/colored women will continue to be abandoned by their temporal spouses as the head of monoparental families with kids struggling to extirp themselves from poverty (see US stastistics of monoporental families by race, and https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/apr/08/dark-skinned-black-girls-dont-get-married), and in the reality shows we'll have plenty of successful black guys but no black women ( https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2018/jun/26/single-black-female-love-island-the-problem-with-race-and-dating ).   It is probably the last minute before midnight to make something about that situation, and to aknowledge the fact that the whites as a race are now degenerate and suicidal, being wiped out by the real superior races of black people which biologically are being born sooner (at less than the time a white women makes a white baby), are growing up more quickly to the biological adulthood and are of bigger height and weight (every one sees that in sports where blacks dominate), and which still has the self-preserving drive to breed sufficiently to grow their population despite being still disadvanteged or even discriminated against. Otherwise there will be no much following in USA or over the pond, in Europe, for this essentially successful Canadian multicultural experience. 

Edited May 26, 2019 by зорька