marcus Posted May 28, 2018 Report Posted May 28, 2018 The guardian council and the revolutionary guard, who have the power, have very little support and need to go. But what/who would replace them? The current U.S. government is pushing for MEK to be seen as the alternative. The MEK were able to get Giuliani, Bolton, Howard Dean and a number of other politicians to advocate and lobby for them. I do wonder where they get their money. Some say they are funded by neo-con and ultra-right wing Jews, like Sheldon Adelson. When it comes to support for MEK by actual Iranians, and I am getting this information from a few Iranians I know, is that they are loathed by an overwhelming majority of Iranians and only have support by what they call cult followers. Curious to see what other Iranians on here think of the MEK. Another option, which many Iranian expats seem to be favouring is the Shah's son. He seems to be supported by Iranian expats that left Iran before and during the revolution. What do Iranians inside Iran want? What's the alternative? Is it still Mousavi? Is he out of the picture? One guy I have noticed is their foreign minister, Zarif. He is very articulate and on the side of the reformers. But these so-called reformers have failed to reform much as the power still lies with Khamenei, his ilk and the revolutionary guard. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
eyeball Posted May 28, 2018 Report Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, marcus said: But these so-called reformers have failed to reform much as the power still lies with Khamenei, his ilk and the revolutionary guard. Much as I'm loath to plant any ideas I'm surprised no one has tried to buy them off and guarantee they'll get to enjoy their ill gotten gains and not face any retribution if they agree to leave. This would be in line with the growing propensity to afford dictators more respect and acceptability including the opportunity to keep their power. Take the apparent hope Kim Jong-un might be influenced to change his attitude after being exposed to capitalist authoritarianism in Singapore for example. Quote Whether Mr Kim will also be stimulated and inspired by his surroundings in Singapore – a freewheeling, prosperous capitalist paradise, which nonetheless retains some authoritarian political traits – can only be matter of conjecture. Maybe someone wanted to drop a hint. Story Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, marcus said: Another option, which many Iranian expats seem to be favouring is the Shah's son. He seems to be supported by Iranian expats that left Iran before and during the revolution. What do Iranians inside Iran want? Another myth created by paid regime mercenaries. Many demonstrators in mass anti-regime protest in over 80 Iranian towns and cities only a few months ago were shouting for Reza Pahlavi asking for his return. They were hardly expats since they were on Iranian streets. On another note labor strikes is spreading more now to over 177 towns and cities as many others joined strikes. Their apparent motive is wage increases but real reason regime change but for now they fear to say it as a demand. https://www.opendemocracy.net/jubin-afshar/iran-truckers-join-nationwide-push-for-change On the face of it, the truckers are just one of many sectors of Iranian society who have risen in protest. Joining the victims of insolvent Iranian credit unions, teachers unions, bus drivers, metro workers, students, as well as adherents of various Sufi orders, and also political prisoners, women and their families, the truckers are striking a chord of dissent and resistance to regime authority in Iran. The united strike of Iranian truckers follows an almost month-long uprising in the city of Kazerun, starting on 16 April, where protestors defied all regime security measures and shouted for regime change. The Kazerun protests began seemingly in protest at rules over new districts in the region. This follows on the heels of the recent nationwide uprising in late December and early January that shook Iran. Hated security forces even attacked people in the funeral!!!! https://www.rferl.org/a/death-ends-media-ban-on-king-of-iranian-cinema-naser-malek-motiee/29255270.html As a result, unrest and demonstrations continue in cities across Iran where women now play a significant role in defying the regime. Women are increasingly removing their mandatory headscarves, the most powerful and visible symbol of the Islamist regime As the west deliberates about dealing with Iran, take into account the desires of the people who are risking their lives protesting on the streets of Iran for an end to imposed religious rule. Edited May 28, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 2, 2018 Report Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) nationwide strikes is forming in Iran against the brutal regime of mullahs. And recent sanctions on the regime garnered "Way to go Trump" graffiti in Tehran!!!!!!!!!!!!!. https://www.opendemocracy.net/north-africa-west-asia/jubin-afshar/iran-gripped-by-strikes-and-protests The truth about Iran is that it is a rigid theocracy nurturing a crony capitalist system where the IRGC and supreme leader’s favourites rule the economy. The vast youthful population languishes with college degrees and no jobs. Women are systematically suppressed as second-class citizens, though they fight back in all ways possible. The government’s interference extends to people’s private lives, homes, whom they associate with on the streets, what they wear, the music they prefer, political ideas they espouse, and their way of life. There is no “freedom” in Iran and Iranians know it. Until recently, they have resisted the regime’s encroachments in little ways, but now they sense its weakness, and an unprecedented opening. There are many reasons for optimism, but most significant is Iran’s own people, who have been inoculated against one of the most virulent strains of intolerance and fanaticism, forming one of the most outwardly friendly nations to progressive change in the region today. Edited June 2, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 7, 2018 Report Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) There is much hope in the hopelessness. There is always brightness at the end of the black night. The occupying Iran regime is accelerating to death. Occupation of Iran is coming to an end. Thanks to the brave nation. Neda's blood was not spilled for nothing. God bless her soul in heaven and many thousands more who gave their lives for freedom and liberation of the land of Lion and Sun. Edited June 7, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Posted June 10, 2018 As the strikes spread to the Capital Tehran in spite of threats and intimidation by the brutal regime, a top mullah said Iran is not France or Britain for workers to take part in strikes!!!!! https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2018/06/09/Video-Iran-s-truck-drivers-strike-hits-the-capital-Tehran.html Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) The Angel of justice and freedom jailed by the evil Islamic Regime. Iran's prominent human rights lawyer Nasrin Sotoudeh who has been defending those arrested for exercising their rights and refusing to wear regime imposed mandatory hijab has been arrested by regime mercenaries this morning and was told she has been sentenced in absentia to 5 years in jail for defending human rights in Iran!!!! Sotoudeh is an outspoken critic of the country’s judiciary, which is dominated by hardliners. She had recently objected to its decision to limit the number of lawyers allowed to defend clients in security-related cases, calling the move a “farewell” to the right of defence. She was awarded the prestigious Sakharov Prize for Freedom of Thought by the EU in 2012 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/world/middleeast/iran-nasrin-sotoudeh-arrest.html “The arrest of this distinguished attorney, who has dedicated her life to defending detainees held on politically motivated charges, reveals the state’s fear of those who defend due process and the rule of law in Iran,” Hadi Ghaemi, executive director of the Center for Human Rights in Iran, said in a statement. Amnesty International called Sotoudeh’s arrest “an outrage” and demanded her immediate release. Iran's Islamic regime is one more time demonstrating its brutality and evil nature to the world by suppressing the very basic rights of its citizens and intimidating and jailing the defenders of human rights Those Europeans who are acting like prostitutes still trying to deal with the devil must know that the nation of Iran will not forget this betrayal. Regime change by any means Edited June 14, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 Canada joins the US to cease diplomatic talks with Iran Regime.and rightly so declares Iran mercenary Revolutionary Guards as terrorist Group. Europe wake up and join the club and have some concern for the gross violations of human rights by Iran regine and stop acting like a prostitute. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-back-tory-motion-to-abandon-diplomatic-talks-with-iran-until/ Quote
kactus Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Canada joins the US to cease diplomatic talks with Iran Regime.and rightly so declares Iran mercenary Revolutionary Guards as terrorist Group. Europe wake up and join the club and have some concern for the gross violations of human rights by Iran regine and stop acting like a prostitute. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-back-tory-motion-to-abandon-diplomatic-talks-with-iran-until/ Great news on Canada! Well done Trudeau! He does get a lot of criticism here but his humility and care is commendable... Although getting the sneaky brits on board to cut ties with mullahs is a big challenge. UK has akways had an “island mentality” which explains why Brexit is happening and is s complete mess...This closed mentality is never forthright with expressing anger/ emotions and their love of mullahs shows the their true colours. Same for the french government. Biggest hypocrite and ass kissers imo... 1 Quote
GostHacked Posted June 14, 2018 Author Report Posted June 14, 2018 4 hours ago, kactus said: Great news on Canada! Well done Trudeau! He does get a lot of criticism here but his humility and care is commendable... Although getting the sneaky brits on board to cut ties with mullahs is a big challenge. UK has akways had an “island mentality” which explains why Brexit is happening and is s complete mess...This closed mentality is never forthright with expressing anger/ emotions and their love of mullahs shows the their true colours. Same for the french government. Biggest hypocrite and ass kissers imo... Now only if Saudi Arabia can be taken to task. I will celebrate when that happens, until then, everything else is Quote
marcus Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 Here are the players behind the Iran regime change: Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, marcus said: Here are the players behind the Iran regime change: Total nonsense. You are behaving like an Iranian mercenary propagating falsehood, lies and pro-regime propaganda like the mercenary Zarif who collaborates with criminals in Iran regime who shoots, murders, tortures and jails innocent people for survival and criticizes Canada for wishing to continue breaking diplomatic ties with Iran regime. I am not saying you are as I don't know you but you are behaving that way whether you are aware of it or not. The defenseless innocent nation of Iran need support and that is what the new US administration is giving them by warning the murderous mullahs and their mercenaries to watch their acts and do not kill the defenseless people. The players are the Iranian people who have risen up all over Iran in over 140 towns and cities against this brutal regime and women who risk their lives and human right defenders who risk long term jails and students and workers and farmers and professional and all Iranians except the paid mercenaries are fed up with the murderous Islamic regime and have witness their country being destroyed by these criminal Arab cultued mullah invaders who have occupied their country for almost 40 years and stole nation's wealth for themselves or sent them to damn Arabs overseas to Syria and Lebanon and Palestine. You are purposely or out of total ignorance distoring the facts and you are helping the Iran murderous regime by claiming so falsely that it is the US who is spending money in Iran to change the regime and ignore and undermine so many thousands who gave their lives so far and many more who will do so. You are undermining the risks and sacrifices that this defenseless nation is making to liberate their country and achieve democracy and much worse you are accusing them of being US, Israeli and Saudi agents. There are 80 million US and Israeli agents in Iran trying to change the regime!!!!!!!! You say same lies as murderous elements in Iran regime SHAME ON YOU marcus. Edited June 14, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
paxamericana Posted June 15, 2018 Report Posted June 15, 2018 4 hours ago, marcus said: American neo-cons did some one say American neo-con??? Present! You all should check out our new defense strategy Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis wrote. We need to pull out of the Iranian deal to defund their destabilizing activities. We fully support the Iranian people who want a true and fair democracy but we refuse to allow the radical part to destabilize the region. A strong Iran is in everyone's best interest but things can not carry on as they are now. Change is coming we just need the Iranians to pick someone more palatable with the west and western values. Quote
paxamericana Posted June 15, 2018 Report Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, marcus said: Iraq and Afghanistan are worse off now than they were before their invasion. That's because Obama decided to pull out all the troop. It takes decades not years to stabilize and rebuild a war torn country. They made so much progress and thanks to obama we didn't get that chance. But no need to worry the new sheriff is in town, we have redeployed troops to stabilize some of those areas now. Oh while we are on this subject you can all thank america for stabilizing all the other areas of conflict from southeast asia , south america, the middle east , africa and ukraine. You are all welcome. Edited June 15, 2018 by paxrom Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 15, 2018 Report Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Iran nation wins again in spite of all regime imposed restrictions and international obstacles. Iran regime bans public screening and gathering of World Cup Soccer fearing the gathering of people who will be shouting anti-regime slogans demanding an end to brutal Islamic regime. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/sport/iran-bans-public-world-cup-screenings-10436542 The regime intention was also to weaken the moral of players following Nike boycott of Iranian players however, Iranians overcame all these internal and external pressures and one more time the superiority of this ancient civilization (Persia or more recently named Iran standing for the land of Aryans by Reza Shah the great) was proven that in spite of all boycotts (countries refusing to play friendlies with Iran) and restrictions and lack of spending by the regime on soccer and players (as opposite to Saudi Arabia which millions have been spent on them but was defeated 5 to 0 yesterday) and bans (of women and gatherings) and obstacles, still the nationalistic feelings of Iranians overcame all the regime made problems and they DEFEATED Morocco in their opening match. It is a punch to the regime's face. I am sure many hundreds of thousands of women and men will now pour into streets of Iran celeberating this victory in a mixed party like enviroment . Edited June 15, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 15, 2018 Report Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) On 6/15/2018 at 1:13 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said: I am sure many hundreds of thousands of women and men will now pour into streets of Iran celeberating this victory in a mixed party like enviroment . Iranians pour into streets to celebrate the world cup win. http://ifpnews.com/exclusive/iranians-pour-into-streets-to-celebrate-world-cup-win/ I told you so!!! And in spite of the ban by regime as usual the nation of both genders did what THEY wanted. Hell to the anti-Persian regime of Iran. https://www.rferl.org/a/iranian-fans-celebrate-dramatic-late-victory-in-world-cup-opener/29292494.html And Iranian women attended the game hijabless as another middle finger to the Islamic regime. http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/sports/mission-impossible-iran-world-cup-article-1.4037791 Edited June 16, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
marcus Posted June 16, 2018 Report Posted June 16, 2018 18 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: I told you so!!! And in spite of the ban by regime as usual the nation of both genders did what THEY wanted. Hell to the anti-Persian regime of Iran. https://www.rferl.org/a/iranian-fans-celebrate-dramatic-late-victory-in-world-cup-opener/29292494.html The Iranian regime banned public screening and not public celebration. Not sure what point you proved here. From your own article: Iran bans public World Cup screenings Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, marcus said: The Iranian regime banned public screening and not public celebration. Not sure what point you proved here. From your own article: Iran bans public World Cup screenings They banned public screening because they fear gatherings of any kind. When people come together then they unite for the common goal to overthrow the regime. In the past they have cracked down hard on celebrations of any kind especially mixed gender celebrations. Unless they realize that there is nothing they can do about it like yesterday. I see that one more time YOU come to the defense of this regime. And why not they are stealing money that belong to the iranian people and giving it away to your people while keeping people of the richest country in the world as poor. Iran and Iranians have no interest or part in the Arab Israeli conflict. Iran is neither. Historically Arabs have done significantly more harm to Iran and Iranians than Israel ever could (has done none sofar) the latest example being the 1980 invasion. So fight your own war at your own expense and casualties. Edited June 16, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) Even a ban on screening was ignored as below shows women (some hijabless even) and men mixed and watching the game in Tehran ON SCREEN. A sign of an outgoing weak unpopular regime who is having its last breaths. The God of Ahura Mazda is winning over the Ahriman. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/06/world-cup-2018-iran-defeat-morocco-180616163550063.html Mixed celebrations also held massively all over Iran some singing the famous song Aei Iran - "If the enemy is as hard as rock then I am made of steel. My life will be sacrificed for Iran" https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-fifa-world-cup/29292896.html And struggle for equality https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-world-cup-iranian-women-protest-ban-from-soccer-stadiums-at-home/ Long live the Aryan nation and the land of Lion and Sun. Edited June 16, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted June 16, 2018 Report Posted June 16, 2018 Nike's action against the Iranian soccer team was cowardly and unnecessary and sent the wrong message to the people of Iran. Wherever possible, sport should not be mixed with politics. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/06/15/nike-tells-irans-world-cup-team-to-find-other-shoes/?utm_term=.ad9187fa1661 And they're called boots BTW. 1 Quote
kactus Posted June 16, 2018 Report Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) Indeed...Unfortunately, they are incapable to differentiate sports players from politicians.... Ordinarily, Nike would offer their products to sportsmen from other countries free as a promotion. Iranian football players have to buy their own trainers. It is also very difficult for Iranian fans to purchase football shirt of their favourite player as it is not standard. Interestingly, Nike slogans in black and white writing that usually comes up with slogan: "Just do it" has been slightly modified now Edited June 16, 2018 by kactus 2 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, kactus said: Interestingly, Nike slogans in black and white writing that usually comes up with slogan: "Just do it" has been slightly modified now And as you said earlier, the slogan has changed to We just did it but without Nike Edit: I didn't notice the picture before posting lol. Well said though. Edited June 16, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
marcus Posted June 16, 2018 Report Posted June 16, 2018 4 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: I see that one more time YOU come to the defense of this regime. You keep repeating that and I will keep repeating that the Iranian regime needs to be changed. You insinuated that Iranians were banned from celebrating when they were not banned from celebrating. If you stop spreading misinformation, I will stop critiquing your comments. I also have a problem with your one-dimensional perspective that it's all Iran's fault and your constant covering for U.S.' policy towards Iran that is very similar to what we saw before U.S. went into Iraq. John Bolton and Pompeo are war architects who are paid heavily by neo-con/Zionist donors. Their agenda is suspect. I'll repeat: I would like to see the current Iranian regime changed, but not at the expense of a full on destruction of the country as we have seen in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, marcus said: You keep repeating that and I will keep repeating that the Iranian regime needs to be changed. You insinuated that Iranians were banned from celebrating when they were not banned from celebrating. If you stop spreading misinformation, I will stop critiquing your comments. I also have a problem with your one-dimensional perspective that it's all Iran's fault and your constant covering for U.S.' policy towards Iran that is very similar to what we saw before U.S. went into Iraq. John Bolton and Pompeo are war architects who are paid heavily by neo-con/Zionist donors. Their agenda is suspect. I'll repeat: I would like to see the current Iranian regime changed, but not at the expense of a full on destruction of the country as we have seen in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. It is YOU who is spreading misinformation. You put up a video falsely insinuating that regime change is being architected by the US and Israel and Saudis. THIS IS A LIE. You underninded sacrifices this defenseless nation has made and is making. It is mainly the Iranian nation who are risking their lives every day including and especially women to change this brutal regime and it is the nation of Iran who acts against what this regime is forcing them to do including gathering and celebrations and mixed parties and wearing hijab. You did NOT say a word or put up a single video showing Iranian people's struggle for regime change. You tried to distort the facts that external factors are trying to do this task and not the Iran nation. It is YOU who is one dimentional. And YES they are indeed banned ever since 1979 to celebrate mixed (Thousands of homes have been raided simply because they were partying in the past years). BUT the nation has no regards for the ban similar to other bans they disregard and they celebrate mixed anyways and there is nothing in hell the regime can do about all these. And another misinformation is that I NEVER blamed Iran but Iran regime for all faults. I keep on criticising some members for not differentiating between the two entities and you accuse me of something that I critized others for doing!!!!!!!! Again you are using Iran regime tactics to scare away the nation of Iran from regime change. Iran is NOT Iraq or Syria or Libya or Afghanistan, the latest being several centuries behind 21 century. First three countries were created out of nowhere with drawn borders only a century ago. Iran is an ancient civilization over 25 centuries of rich history. All Iranians whether Persian, Azari, Kurds, Lors, Baluchies, Arabs etc. share a common culture and history for over 2500 years. They shared happiness and sadness. Fought against enemies alongside each other.They resisted against invaders (the latest in 17th century when the Turks occupied Tabriz, the population all vacated the city and the invaders went back home or as another recent example when Iraq invaded in 1980 then the Iranian Arabs and Kurds fought alongside Iran against Iraqis arab invaders). They will never fight each other. They all celebrate Noruz and Yalda and Suri. This is a civilized highly educated nation with a long political history for struggle for democracy and after regime change a smooth bloodless transition like what happened in Ukraine or Greece or South America will occur. Persians are not same as Arabs to tear off their country in spite of regime's attempt to create discord among various minority groups. Persian's culture is based on Good deeds, Good Thoughts and Good talks and respect for all races and religions and women. It is not based on invade and kill and take away the belongings of defeated nations. These are the daughters and sons of those who brought in the very first Charter of Human Rights, and liberated Jews from slavery. Whether you are aware of it or not you are saying the same things that Iran regime is saying (whether it is claim of US and Israel and S. Arabia's regime change plot or dangers of regime change for Iran) and YOU are indirectly supporting the regime which you claim you wish changed. Edited June 17, 2018 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
marcus Posted June 17, 2018 Report Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Whether you are aware of it or not you are saying the same things that Iran regime is saying The Iranian regime is saying that they need to be changed? I appreciate your pride for the Iranian culture and history. I agree that it's a beautiful culture which has offered a lot and has much more to offer. My personal belief is that countries need to be left alone and to be allowed to change within. Every single example of forced regime change has turned into shit. Iranians are proud people and, again, majority of Iranians I have come across prefer not to have U.S./Saudi/Israel help them with regime change. Of course, if/once they do begin the process, they would want their own puppet at the helm. Someone like MEK, who they have falsely designated as the "opposition". When in reality, they are hated by majority of Iranians. Be careful what you advocate for. Don't let your anger for the regime cloud your judgement. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
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