Michael Hardner Posted November 4, 2017 Report Posted November 4, 2017 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-bogus-clinton-uranium-one-deal-conspiracy-1.4383957 Note that the principals in this story are named as are the commentators. There aren't any bloggers, fake bots or imaginary elves. Reading it, I don't blame Republicans or even FOX for spinning this to the point of untruth. That's politics. And I also do think that an ex-president accepting money for speeches while his wife was still in a position of influence set up a unique appearance of conflict-of-interest. But there are a few facts of this deal that aren't repeated when the story gets cut/pasted around: Quote - The company, Uranium One, had rights to Uranium mining in Kazakhstan - already in the sphere Russian influence. - The 20% figure refers to the annual production capacity of US uranium, not the supply. And that couldn't be exported anyway without a license from the US govt, which Trump ostensibly has some control over - Clinton's influence over this deal is said to be minimal, though it is unknown The fact is that the scope and also the complexity of western government exceeds that of a massive, complicated starship, and driving it (governing) is beyond the grasp of the monkeys who elect our captains. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Hal 9000 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Posted November 4, 2017 There may or may not be anything scandalous about the Uranium One deal, I think it would be worth looking into though. What I find distressing is the fever pitch in the way that Hillary supports run around to dispel any idea of wrongdoing when in fact there is solid reason to look further into not only this transaction, but also the 'dossier", the emails, the accusations from Donna Brazile among other things. It makes no sense to bend and contort every bit of minutia surrounding Trump, only to have pundits accept everything they're told by Hillary and her people as fact. 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
hot enough Posted November 4, 2017 Report Posted November 4, 2017 What I find distressing is folks supporting the people that people know are rank liars, war criminals, terrorists, bombers, ... . Quote
Argus Posted November 4, 2017 Report Posted November 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-bogus-clinton-uranium-one-deal-conspiracy-1.4383957 Note that the principals in this story are named as are the commentators. There aren't any bloggers, fake bots or imaginary elves. Reading it, I don't blame Republicans or even FOX for spinning this to the point of untruth. That's politics. No, no it's not politics. It's actually slander. You don't repeatedly suggest someone was bribed and took money for a decision they had nothing to do with and you have no evidence to support. You particularly don't do that if you're a network news show. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hot enough Posted November 4, 2017 Report Posted November 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: The fact is that the scope and It's weird that you think you can post one article and declare something debunked, Michael. Such is your disdain for the truth. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Posted November 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Hal 9000 said: It makes no sense to bend and contort every bit of minutia surrounding Trump, only to have pundits accept everything they're told by Hillary and her people as fact. Well, most on here have a nuanced view of the whole shit-show of an election. So you're talking about partisan supporters offline, I suppose. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Posted November 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Argus said: No, no it's not politics. It's actually slander. You don't repeatedly suggest someone was bribed and took money for a decision they had nothing to do with and you have no evidence to support. You particularly don't do that if you're a network news show. I trust that the FOX people know how to walk the line of throwing the witch into the fire without actually SAYING she's guilty and incurring legal risk. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Posted November 4, 2017 If Hillary Clinton and her "supporters" on either side of the border thought that she could just ride off into the sunset and forget the trail of garbage she left behind, they are sadly mistaken. Even DNC chair and Clinton wonk Donna Brazile is cashing in on the residue of a falling Clinton Empire and its waning influence. Just add uranium to the list. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted November 5, 2017 Report Posted November 5, 2017 More evidence that it doesn't matter what party it is they are all scum sucking bottom dwellers. Then there are the folks who remain loyal to these war criminal/terrorist/purveyors of genocide/baby killers/... . USA, rah rah rah. So much to be proud of. Quote
Jariax Posted November 5, 2017 Report Posted November 5, 2017 Bernie and Trump were right to ask Clinton about these transactions during the election contests. What I found fascinating was the utter contempt and dismissiveness Hillary showed for those who dared to question her. At one point, she actually said that no one could prove that she changed her vote based on money she received, as if that were evidence enough of her innocence. As secretary of state, while negotiating with foreign entities, her husband received hundreds of thousands for speeches from those same foreign entities, and their charity received tens of millions from those entities. This is an incredible conflict of interest, and rather than address the perception head-on, Hillary was incredulous about even being asked, and tried to play the 'female victim' card. It's not a coincidence that donations to the Clinton foundation are waning, along with the Clinton family's political influence. That should tell you all you need to know about the perceived conflict of interest. Quote
Argus Posted November 5, 2017 Report Posted November 5, 2017 12 hours ago, Jariax said: Bernie and Trump were right to ask Clinton about these transactions during the election contests. What I found fascinating was the utter contempt and dismissiveness Hillary showed for those who dared to question her. Did you even read the cite posted above? The decision was not Clinton's to make. In fact, primarily it was Stephen Harper's to make. And he was not noted as a man overly fond of Russians. If he passed on it then it wasn't any big deal, and the committee in the US who made the decision felt the same way. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
OftenWrong Posted November 5, 2017 Report Posted November 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Argus said: Did you even read the cite posted above? The decision was not Clinton's to make. In fact, primarily it was Stephen Harper's to make. And he was not noted as a man overly fond of Russians. If he passed on it then it wasn't any big deal, and the committee in the US who made the decision felt the same way. Or he passed on it for another reason. Quote
9-18-1 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 The Clinton Foundation’s Accounting Firm’s Founder David Reznick, Found Dead The death of Jewish businessman and founder/chairman of CohnReznick accounting Firm David Reznick, appears to be the Clinton’s attempt at avoiding the same fate as Jewish spies, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. However, Bill and Hillary’s torrent of alleged connections to the Russian ‘Uranium One‘ scandal, industrial scale pedophile organizations, political assassinations, and hundreds of additional improprieties, will no doubt give way to their own Rosenberg moment. This begs the question. Could the untimely death of David Reznick be a sign that we will soon be witnessing the elimination of another wealthy Jewish businessman with a similar last name and connections to the Clintons? Stewart Resnick and his wife Lynda are the owners of Fiji Water. Stewart is also on the board of Jewish media mogul David Geffen’s School of medicine (UCLA). And... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-07/upcoming-oig-report-likely-trigger-second-special-counsel-comey-lynch-and-clinton OP is either disinfo or retarded. Clinton is absolutely tied to U1 scandal, along with a plethora of other disgusting crimes and her time is almost up. Quote
?Impact Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, 9-18-1 said: The death of Jewish businessman and founder/chairman of CohnReznick accounting Firm David Reznick, appears to be the Clinton’s attempt at avoiding the same fate as Jewish spies, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg Didn't he die 3 years ago at age 77? What kind of trash are you reading? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Posted January 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Didn't he die 3 years ago at age 77? What kind of trash are you reading? It's the usual garbage - now a full-tilt industry that generates fantastic stories about 'behind the scenes' conspiracies that drive the daily news, and appeals to people who need an exciting entry point to understand politics. Why the hell do they mention somebody's Jewishness TWICE in the first sentence and again in the first paragraph. It's a sign that you are not reading sane news... 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
9-18-1 Posted January 8, 2018 Report Posted January 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Didn't he die 3 years ago at age 77? What kind of trash are you reading? Look I know you are slightly slow to put things together, just wait a week or two, it will be more clear. Quote
9-18-1 Posted January 8, 2018 Report Posted January 8, 2018 http://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-sessions-orders-doj-interview-fbi-agents-uranium-one-clinton-2017-12 The Justice Department is interviewing the FBI about former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's role in a controversial uranium deal with Russia. Republicans have been calling on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to appoint a second special counsel to investigate the 2010 deal, which they say enriched the Clintons. The controversy has been a sticking point for Republicans who allege the deal was evidence of pay-for-play. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has ordered the Justice Department to interview FBI agents with knowledge of an investigation into Hillary Clinton's role in a uranium deal with Russia, reviving interest in what President Donald Trump has called a "modern-age" Watergate, NBC News reported on Thursday. When the transaction became politicized during the 2016 campaign, some experts cast doubt over the legitimacy of the Clinton connection, as well as the national security threat posed by the deal. The move comes a month after Republicans in Congress urged Sessions to appoint a second special counsel to investigate Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, the Uranium One deal, and the FBI's handling of its investigation into her private emails at secretary of state. Calls to appoint a second special counsel came as early as July, when House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte wrote a letter urging Sessions to consider it. Goodlatte wrote another letter to Sessions in September for the Justice Department to investigate "matters which may be outside the scope" of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of Russian interference in the 2017 election, and the Trump campaign's role. In 2010, Clinton and eight other top officials across the US government approved the sale of part of a company called Uranium One to the Russian government. It's unclear whether Clinton personally reviewed the deal, however. Some Republicans argue this move simultaneously endangered national security and enriched the Clintons. Trump and his allies have seized on Uranium One as Mueller's investigation into the president's possible coordination with Russia to swing the 2016 election in his favor heats up. "Uranium deal to Russia, with Clinton help and Obama Administration knowledge, is the biggest story that Fake Media doesn't want to follow!" Trump tweeted in October. The scandal first emerged as a point of contention following Breitbart News editor Peter Schewizer's 2015 book "Clinton Cash," which alleged that the uranium deal was evidence of a quid pro quo with Russian and Canadian businessmen who had made large donations to the Clinton Foundation around the time of the deal. But The Washington Post and Politifact have debunked many of those claims, including Trump's frequent comments about the deal while on the campaign trail in 2016. The FBI interviews will be used to determine whether Sessions needs to appoint a second special counsel to investigate Clinton, according to NBC. Quote
9-18-1 Posted January 8, 2018 Report Posted January 8, 2018 Here is how I see the Uranium One scandal: The Uranium One scandal was 'known' by the IC (patriots) the entire time. It was a massive bribery scheme which involved several beneficiaries spanning across multiple agencies which essentially facilitated the sale of uranium to Russia. Of course at the time of the scandal, Dems and their donors were "confident" that HRC would win the POTUS elections, which didn't happen. The collusion was so widespread and high-level, those involved thought they would walk unscathed. Even as small details of the scandal leaked into the public eye in 2015, the scandal was protected. The patriots in the IC whose hands were tied basically sat Trump down and told him what had happened. Trump and the IC needed a way to entrap the Dems/HRC. Trump's campaign focused a lot on establishing "friendly" relations with Putin and Russia. This provoked the Dems, HRC, Obama and the rest of these psychopaths to attack Trump on these grounds, with Trump knowing full well they are the ones who colluded. This would mean that the very people who colluded with Russia are the ones accusing Trump of colluding with Russia. What a perfect entrapment. HRC, Obama, Holder, Lynch etc. ate it all up because (at this point) they had no idea Trump (and the patriot IC) knew every single detail about the Uranium One scandal. Now when the truth comes out, all of these people, including the beneficiaries, will have effectively indicted themselves. When Trump won the election, he and Sessions began playing these people like a fiddle. They always knew all of the details: who got how much, from who, how much U was being shipped to Moscow, who transported it etc. They are only pretending to gradually uncover pieces of the puzzle - they knew the big picture all along. The Trump collusion investigation is one giant misdirection. Trump asked Comey to back off, then fires him. Comey then starts leaking all sorts of goodies to the NYT and demands the appointment of a special counsel. Throw in the business with the Russian ambassador phone calls with advisors, Jared Kushner running the campaign behind the scenes, Kelly Anne Conway shifting PR/media, and Manafort being brought in as more reason to investigate Trump. The need to "investigate Russian collusion" was obvious. Jess Sessions recuses himself (he already knows everything, and always did know everything), Rosenstein appoints Mueller, who both know that Trump and Sessions both know the entire scandal in full detail, and we have ourselves one big ticking time bomb for Obama/HRC/Dems and beneficiaries of this scandal. The main players already know the whole story, but the Dems supporting HRC never knew how much (if anything) Trump/Sessions knew about the scandal. This is beautiful strategy: the more the Dems try to deface Trump with deception, the more they out themselves. The general public may assume that Mueller and Rosenstein are dirty and trying to hide something. Trump has been suffering a barrage of attacks from these selfsame sick people, with our latest being that ridiculous 'Fire and Fury' book written by a psychopath. This, again, is playing right into Trump - the more they attack, the more they out themselves (just like how the OP of this thread attacks people when they call him disinfo scum). The main public are on the edge of their seats waiting for an indictment on Trump as Trump *appears* vulnerable, but the opposite is true. In reality, Mueller is digging deeper into Uranium One, FusionGPS and the Trump dossier. He has already found massive collusion. He found this collusion to be between HRC who compromised US national security. He found HRC illegally funding solicitation of info from Russian government sources to smear other candidates and tried to hide it, which is illegal. The indictments are already made/sealed. In total since Trump took office, there are almost 10 000 sealed indictments aimed at very sick people doing very sick things. Many people are going to be jailed. DNC media completely fell for the cover story thus actually allowed the investigation to take place, despite it being against their interest rather than for. How to tell if this narrative is true? Just wait and see. Quote
?Impact Posted January 8, 2018 Report Posted January 8, 2018 3 hours ago, 9-18-1 said: In reality, Mueller is digging deeper Finally I agree with a small snippet of what you said. Lets all support Mueller for digging deeper. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Posted January 8, 2018 9 hours ago, 9-18-1 said: How to tell if this narrative is true? Just wait and see. Somebody told me that in late 2016. You can keep waiting if you like, nobody is forcing you to put an end date when justice will rain down on us. I for one know it's not happening, though. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
taxme Posted January 8, 2018 Report Posted January 8, 2018 On 11/4/2017 at 5:24 AM, Michael Hardner said: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-bogus-clinton-uranium-one-deal-conspiracy-1.4383957 Note that the principals in this story are named as are the commentators. There aren't any bloggers, fake bots or imaginary elves. Reading it, I don't blame Republicans or even FOX for spinning this to the point of untruth. That's politics. And I also do think that an ex-president accepting money for speeches while his wife was still in a position of influence set up a unique appearance of conflict-of-interest. But there are a few facts of this deal that aren't repeated when the story gets cut/pasted around: The fact is that the scope and also the complexity of western government exceeds that of a massive, complicated starship, and driving it (governing) is beyond the grasp of the monkeys who elect our captains. Put the Clinton's and Obama on the stand, and let's get and hear the facts and the truth from those two scoundrels. Trump did not call Hillary a crooked person and a liar for nothing which by the way she did not challenge Trump on those accusations. Maybe because she already knows that she is a crook and a liar and cannot dispute those charges. It needs to all come out about Hillary and her involvement in so many crooked deals done while she was in the government. Quote
taxme Posted January 8, 2018 Report Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 3:23 PM, 9-18-1 said: The Clinton Foundation’s Accounting Firm’s Founder David Reznick, Found Dead The death of Jewish businessman and founder/chairman of CohnReznick accounting Firm David Reznick, appears to be the Clinton’s attempt at avoiding the same fate as Jewish spies, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. However, Bill and Hillary’s torrent of alleged connections to the Russian ‘Uranium One‘ scandal, industrial scale pedophile organizations, political assassinations, and hundreds of additional improprieties, will no doubt give way to their own Rosenberg moment. This begs the question. Could the untimely death of David Reznick be a sign that we will soon be witnessing the elimination of another wealthy Jewish businessman with a similar last name and connections to the Clintons? Stewart Resnick and his wife Lynda are the owners of Fiji Water. Stewart is also on the board of Jewish media mogul David Geffen’s School of medicine (UCLA). And... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-07/upcoming-oig-report-likely-trigger-second-special-counsel-comey-lynch-and-clinton OP is either disinfo or retarded. Clinton is absolutely tied to U1 scandal, along with a plethora of other disgusting crimes and her time is almost up. It would appear also that those the Jewish billionaire and is wife who were murdered in their home a few weeks back were both connected to having dealings with the deep state Clinton's according to the internet. There are just too many people that have died that somehow have had dealings with the Clinton's in the past few years. Is it all just coincidences? It appears not to look that way right now. And why haven't the police solved this crime yet? Is there some kind of a cover up in the making here? It sure dam well looks like it if these two murders never get solved, than it will have to point to the deep state who may have been behind the murders. Hey, you never know. Quote
taxme Posted January 8, 2018 Report Posted January 8, 2018 On 11/5/2017 at 8:19 AM, OftenWrong said: Or he passed on it for another reason. Uhmm, I wonder if we have a deep state conspiracy going on here, and that maybe is why Harper and like most politicians must do is keep their mouths shut and do as they are ordered to do. Hey, they in the deep state run the show, and not the puppet on a string politicians do. Hey, you never know, eh? Quote
OftenWrong Posted January 9, 2018 Report Posted January 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, taxme said: Uhmm, I wonder if we have a deep state conspiracy going on here, and that maybe is why Harper and like most politicians must do is keep their mouths shut and do as they are ordered to do. Hey, they in the deep state run the show, and not the puppet on a string politicians do. Hey, you never know, eh? We can see how they in the deep state run the show.Just look at the media today. Quote
taxme Posted January 9, 2018 Report Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: We can see how they in the deep state run the show.Just look at the media today. Right on, man. The deep state controls just about all of the mainstream media and they uses that media to spread their lies and bull chit. Watching and listening to all those TV actors like on CNN or MSNBC is enough to make one sick. They lie and bull chit thru their teeth and think that they are the greatest lying actors on earth, which of course they are. Quote
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