The Refugee Claimant

[taxme]

2 hours ago, drummindiver said:

There's a whole plethora of white hating on white that are progressive.

Is this what  you mean by preaching acceptance and diversity? Vote my way or you're a racist. Btw, Ninesh has a video claiming if he loses  its because society is going backwards.....not because he is a terrible mayor

http://corymorgan.com/vote-for-nenshi-or-you-are-a-bad-white-person/

There appears to be so many white people out there who just simply would like to see their own white race die off. They have been conditioned and brainwashed into believing that it is the white race that is and always has been the reason why racism exists. If white people are suppose to be so racist than why do white people allow non-white immigrants by the hundreds of thousands to immigrate into their white countries every year? The white hating campaign continues on. 

 

[Omni]

8 minutes ago, taxme said:

There appears to be so many white people out there who just simply would like to see their own white race die off. They have been conditioned and brainwashed into believing that it is the white race that is and always has been the reason why racism exists. If white people are suppose to be so racist than why do white people allow non-white immigrants by the hundreds of thousands to immigrate into their white countries every year? The white hating campaign continues on. 

 

Sooo, because non-whites have participatede in racism, it's good for whites to as well?

[taxme]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

Can you name anyone who has complained about non-whites other than taxme?

I have been complaining for a long time now about the massive third world immigration that has been happening for decades which is now starting to change the makeup of Canada. Why would any white person in their right mind who cares about their country just sit back and watch it as it begins to change into a third world looking country? Either you give a chit about your grandchildren and their future or you don't. I happen to give a chit about my grandchildren and about the new world that is taking over this once great white nation, and will eventually erase their past history and culture and replace it with foreign ones. It will happen unless it is nipped in the bud asap.

[taxme]

15 minutes ago, Omni said:

Sooo, because non-whites have participatede in racism, it's good for whites to as well?

Well, if non-whites are participating in racism, the lame duck liberal media sure hides it well.

[Omni]

5 hours ago, taxme said:

Well, if non-whites are participating in racism, the lame duck liberal media sure hides it well.

You've heard of a place called Africa right?

[dialamah]

7 hours ago, Argus said:

Cite.

 

[Argus]

10 hours ago, dialamah said:

 

So you're unable to back up your bullshit claim. Why not just admit it? Do you lack the honesty and integrity? Or are you stupid enough to think that talking about the psychology of open vs closed personality types in regard to immigration or the ridiculous cost of our refugee program somehow equals talking shit about visible minorities? 

The truth is you're not smart enough to argue a case without throwing insults at other people, and then you whine about it whenever anyone insults you back. Pathetic snowflake.

Edited October 10, 2017 by Argus

[dialamah]

6 minutes ago, Argus said:

So you're unable to back up your bullshit claim. Why not just admit it? Do you lack the honesty and integrity? Or are you stupid enough to think that talking about the psychology of open vs closed personality types in regard to immigration or the ridiculous cost of our refugee program somehow equals talking shit about visible minorities? 

The truth is you're not smart enough to argue a case without throwing insults at other people, and then you whine about it whenever anyone insults you back. Pathetic snowflake.

Read your comments in those threads; they are full of negative stereotypes about refugees and immigrants that aren't of white European descent.  Constant complaints about how they don't fit in, don't contribute economically, are a threat to our culture.  Many other posts in threads not started by you, express the same negative stereotypes.

My claim is proven; deal with it.

Back to name calling, are we? 

[Argus]

3 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Read your comments in those threads; they are full of negative stereotypes about refugees and immigrants that aren't of white European descent.  Constant complaints about how they don't fit in, don't contribute economically, are a threat to our culture.  Many other posts in threads not started by you, express the same negative stereotypes.

My claim is proven; deal with it.

Back to name calling, are we? 

You're a liar. I'm not going to read through long threads to find comments about visible minorities because I know there aren't any. You're implying that anyone who opposes immigration or massive refugee costs is a racist which is just the kind of intellectual bankruptcy I'd expect from someone of your limited intelligence. 

Edited October 10, 2017 by Argus

[dialamah]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

You're a liar. I'm not going to read through long threads to find comments about visible minorities because I know there aren't any. You're implying that anyone who opposes immigration or massive refugee costs is a racist which is just the kind of intellectual bankruptcy I'd expect from someone of your limited intelligence. 

I am not a liar.  You claim immigrants and refugees from countries that are not English speaking, from European origins do not fit in economically or culturally and, if they Muslim, are a threat to our way of life.  You have repeated this endlessly in various topics, over and over and over.   

Stop with the insults.  Only someone of limited intelligence needs to bolster their argument with insults and I know you are smarter than that.

[Argus]

1 minute ago, dialamah said:

I am not a liar. 

You make Donald Trump seem honest - and smart.

1 minute ago, dialamah said:

You claim immigrants and refugees from countries that are not English speaking, from European origins do not fit in economically or culturally and, if they Muslim, are a threat to our way of life.

Every single thing I have posted is based upon verifiable statistics and information, whereas your whiny, excuse-laden posts are always based on your emotional attachment to Islam and your Muslim sister and her Muslim family. 

1 minute ago, dialamah said:

Stop with the insults.  Only someone of limited intelligence needs to bolster their argument with insults and I know you are smarter than that.

I am not insulting you, I am stating fact. But do keep sniveling about being insulted after you call me a racist.

[dialamah]

17 minutes ago, Argus said:

Every single thing I have posted is based upon verifiable statistics and information, 

You do quote stuff, to support your complaints. But they are complaints nonetheless, and they are unending.    You also fail to give any credence to any data that contradicts your complaints.

 

17 minutes ago, Argus said:

you call me a racist.

Where have I called you a racist?

[Argus]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

You do quote stuff, to support your complaints. But they are complaints nonetheless, and they are unending.    You also fail to give any credence to any data that contradicts your complaints.

Your Muslim relatives are not evidence of anything but your own bias.

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

Where have I called you a racist?

Like I said, Donald Trump is honest compared to you.

[dialamah]

Are you denying that you regularly complain that immigrants from non-European countries:

  -  Lack economic value to Canada;

  -  Fail to fit-in culturally and socially;

  -  In the case of Muslims, present a particular threat to Canada due to misogynistic and violent beliefs?

Those are not things you believe and you have never said anything like that?

3 minutes ago, Argus said:

Like I said, Donald Trump is honest compared to you.

I am sorry you have nothing to counter my evidence other than bluster and name-calling.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 10/2/2017 at 10:36 PM, Omni said:

Gawd argus, you really do need to get out from underneath your bed and educate yourself on how tough our immigration system actually is. It's as tough as, or even tougher than the US system. Perhaps you have never dealt with it as I have. Check out what is called "the point system".

I also have 1st-hand experience in the system.  Some aspects of it are tough yes without question, other aspects of it are complete incompetence fueled simply by dirty politics & laziness in our government and public service.  If more of the public knew what went on behind the scenes in the IRB or CIC/IRCC etc they'd be outraged.

[dre]

On 10/1/2017 at 3:01 PM, betsy said:

The man responsible for the Edmonton terror attack was in the process of making a refugee claim.  

 

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/terrorism-attempted-murder-charges-pending-in-edmonton-attack-1.3614259

 

What does this say about our screening process?  Why is a refugee so easily radicalized?  Aren't refugees supposed to be running from ISIS or Al Qaeda?

How can we  trust the screening process for refugee claimants?  Why is he still in Canada? 

You have to look at the immigration population as a whole... and not wretch and jerk at the knees over what is probably anecdote. I have never seen any information showing that immigrants commit murder or other violent crimes at a higher rate than the general population. And overall the murder rate is falling regardless of immigration policy.

That's not a reason to not strengthen the screening process, but policy should not be formulated based on reactionism from irrational people like you. 

Spending on ANYTHING that's meant to keep us "safe" is basic risk management. Insurance adjusters should decide where money gets spent... people that understand risk management. Otherwise we will misallocate  funds like the trillions spent on the counter-productive GWOT.

You have done precisely nothing to show the screening process is deficient.

[dre]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

Your Muslim relatives are not evidence of anything but your own bias.

Like I said, Donald Trump is honest compared to you.

Yes, his knowledge of a small group of immigrants is anecdotal... but so is this entire thread. And you are absolutely the last person to point fingers over this kind of thing. Christ... I just read a thread where you were using "top ten most wanted" lists  to support your assertion that immigrants increase crime rates. You are CAPTAIN anecdote.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

Are you denying that you regularly complain that immigrants from non-European countries:

  -  Lack economic value to Canada;

  -  Fail to fit-in culturally and socially;

  -  In the case of Muslims, present a particular threat to Canada due to misogynistic and violent beliefs?

Those are not things you believe and you have never said anything like that?

All of which I have supported with evidence. And NONE of which has ANYTHING to do with skin colour.

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

I am sorry you have nothing to counter my evidence other than bluster and name-calling.

You have NO evidence. You're simply lying through your teeth and insulting me in a pathetic attempt to hide it.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I also have 1st-hand experience in the system.  Some aspects of it are tough yes without question, other aspects of it are complete incompetence fueled simply by dirty politics & laziness in our government and public service.  If more of the public knew what went on behind the scenes in the IRB or CIC/IRCC etc they'd be outraged.

As has already been documented, 90% of immigrants who are accepted to Canada never see an immigration officer for an interview until they arrive. overworked Immigration officers in cubicles in Ottawa go through the paperwork applications and assign points and move on as quickly as possible to the next applicant. No one ever checks out the credentials unless something really looks suspicious. No one interviews the potential Canadian. Security screening consists of checking to see if they're wanted. That's it.

As for refugees, no one has a clue who they are. They largely lack documents, and what documents they do have are easily faked or bought. Again, security screening consists of seeing if they're wanted somewhere under the name they've given, or if their fingerprints are held by someone in the West.

Edited October 10, 2017 by Argus

[cannuck]

13 hours ago, dre said:

You have to look at the immigration population as a whole... and not wretch and jerk at the knees over what is probably anecdote. I have never seen any information showing that immigrants commit murder or other violent crimes at a higher rate than the general population. And overall the murder rate is falling regardless of immigration policy.

That's not a reason to not strengthen the screening process, but policy should not be formulated based on reactionism from irrational people like you. 

Spending on ANYTHING that's meant to keep us "safe" is basic risk management. Insurance adjusters should decide where money gets spent... people that understand risk management. Otherwise we will misallocate  funds like the trillions spent on the counter-productive GWOT.

You have done precisely nothing to show the screening process is deficient.

I am going to take a wild guess that you have never spent any time inside of a penal institution?   If you had - or have any friends of family members who have - you would know that the ethnicity of the majority of detainees is hugely dissproportionately non-white, non-European.

Even when "we" observe that, the genuine "white guilt" culture conspires to blame the Euro-centric population.  

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1147637?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://torontoist.com/2016/04/african-canadian-prison-population/

the usual...it's all Whitie's fault.

 

Here is a nice, clear study showing results of incarceration in Canada.    Again, much higher for blacks and aboriginals relative to population, lower for caucasians and asians      http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/research/r144-eng.shtml

 

Putting all of the politcaly correct racism talk aside, the fact is that non-caucasian minorities actually commit a lot more crime, then bitch about being treated like criminals.   Within the Caucasian component, I believe you will find recent non-anglo immigrants also represented in much great proportion.

What are "we" "doing" about it? (as one article above asks).   Simple: actively recruiting far, far more immigrants with no cultural attitude of assimilation from places where crime is the status quo for small business.

and you don't see a problem there?????

[dialamah]

17 hours ago, Argus said:

All of which I have supported with evidence. And NONE of which has ANYTHING to do with skin colour.

So you admit you have said those things I listed.  Your evidence doesn't make what you say less of a complaint.  Your complaints mostly apply to non-white people, 

17 hours ago, Argus said:

You have NO evidence. You're simply lying through your teeth and insulting me in a pathetic attempt to hide it.

You have admitted that I am right about what you believe and what you have posted.  Clearly, I am not lying through my teeth.

[taxme]

On ‎2017‎-‎10‎-‎09 at 9:35 PM, Omni said:

You've heard of a place called Africa right?

Indeed I have and ever since apartheid was abolished white people have and still are being robbed, raped and murdered according to the internet. I have never heard so far one peep coming from the western liberal media about those atrocities happening to white people.

So, what's your point?

[Michael Hardner]

On 10/11/2017 at 5:47 AM, cannuck said:

 Putting all of the politcaly correct racism talk aside, the fact is that non-caucasian minorities actually commit a lot more crime, then bitch about being treated like criminals.   Within the Caucasian component, I believe you will find recent non-anglo immigrants also represented in much great proportion.

What are "we" "doing" about it? (as one article above asks).   Simple: actively recruiting far, far more immigrants with no cultural attitude of assimilation from places where crime is the status quo for small business.

and you don't see a problem there?????

You pretty clearly illustrate why publishing race-based statistics is fraught with problems.  Non-whites commit 'more crimes' but the report says White offenders commit violent offences more often, and that Caucasians are more entrenched in 'criminal lifestyles'.  So not only have you cherry-picked a statistic that fits your worldview, but you have mixed up correlation and causation.

If Canada recruited black grad students in technology from the USA, you could use this report to justify keeping them out.

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That said, I'm glad that we are having dialogue on this issue but we have a long way to go in developing a public that can discuss such things without falling into holes.