The Responsibilities of Citizenship

[dialamah]

12 hours ago, blackbird said:

Don't see how it could be abused.  Unless a victim is willing to verify it and possibly have a medical examination by a doctor to verify it, there is nothing government or police can do about it.  So it can't be abused.  Another phony liberal/NDP issue.

Having the police come to the door  demanding to have your daughter examined because a neighbor called a snitch line for no reason than their own bigotry would be an abuse of a snitch line.  

 

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

Having the police come to the door  demanding to have your daughter examined because a neighbor called a snitch line for no reason than their own bigotry would be an abuse of a snitch line.  

 

We don't know how the police would handle a report so we can't assume that is how they would do it.   There are neighbours reports of domestic abuse, child abuse or suspicion of child abuse that are reported to social services or police all the time.  It has to handled some way.   Is it better to ignore it?  What would be your solution?  We depend on citizens being observant and reporting anything suspicious that comes to their attention.

[dialamah]

11 minutes ago, blackbird said:

We don't know how the police would handle a report so we can't assume that is how they would do it.   There are neighbours reports of domestic abuse, child abuse or suspicion of child abuse that are reported to social services or police all the time.  It has to handled some way.   Is it better to ignore it?  What would be your solution?  We depend on citizens being observant and reporting anything suspicious that comes to their attention.

Yup and they investigate them.  FGM, for example, is child abuse, so a neighbor can use that if they have concerns.

A 'barbaric practices' tip line singles out a specific population.   A tip line only validates the false belief that only a certain type of person does these things.  And since we already have laws and procedures in place to deal with these practices, a tip line for them is redundant.

[blackbird]

3 minutes ago, dialamah said:

 A tip line only validates the false belief that only a certain type of person does these things.

Because only a certain type of person does these things.  Leftists want to put their heads in the sand and not acknowledge there are certain problems that come from a certain kind of person.  By ignoring the problem Liberals and NDP get more votes from minorities.

[dialamah]

32 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Because only a certain type of person does these things.  Leftists want to put their heads in the sand and not acknowledge there are certain problems that come from a certain kind of person.  By ignoring the problem Liberals and NDP get more votes from minorities.

Rightists want to put their heads in the sand and pretend that its ok to spread misinformation about people and then enact laws based on that misinformation.  Case in point:  FGM is believed to be only an Islamic practice, by those who uncritically believe everything right-wing media sources say.  

There are already laws and procedures to deal with those kinds of things; we don't need more.  This is exactly the same reason you and I have agreed on a previous topic that we don't need more or special laws for to deal with anti-Muslim crimes.

Please note my consistency:  we don't need more laws to deal with illegal cultural practices OR anti-Muslim hate crimes.

Please note your inconsistency:  We don't need more laws to deal with anti-Muslim hate crimes, but we do need more laws to deal with the crimes believed to be specific to Muslims.

 

[dialamah]

48 minutes ago, blackbird said:

By ignoring the problem Liberals and NDP get more votes from minorities.

Perhaps Liberals and NDP get more votes from minorities because conservatives support anti-immigrant policies and bigotted attitudes.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

Perhaps Liberals and NDP get more votes from minorities because conservatives support anti-immigrant policies and bigotted attitudes.

We been all through this ad infinitem.   Leftists don't care because they are multicultural marxists and don't care about the damage they are doing to western civilization by bringing in people who are totally incompatible with our values and culture and have no intention of changing.  Rather than stand up for our values and country, they sell themselves out for votes.

Edited April 25, 2017 by blackbird

[hot enough]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

and not acknowledge there are certain problems that come from a certain kind of person.  By ignoring the problem Liberals and NDP get more votes from minorities.

You racist folks just can't win. Pretty much everything you write and say reveals this, your racist agenda. 

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Leftists don't care because they are multicultural marxists and don't care about the damage they are doing to western civilization by bringing in people who are totally incompatible with our values and culture and have no intention of changing. 

Your western civilization is hardly civil or "ization". 

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

You racist folks just can't win. Pretty much everything you write and say reveals this, your racist agenda. 

Do you have anything to say on the topic here or what?

[Goddess]

19 hours ago, dialamah said:

They lost, so what's the issue?  Why not be pleased that our system is robust enough to be questionned?

Ya, it's great that our system can be questioned.  If foreigners want to dispute it, then they should pay for it.

Also, it's disrespectful.  

It's like inviting a visitor into your home and the first thing they do before even saying Hello is start complaining about all the things they don't like about your home.  Not off to a great start of a relationship, don't you think?

[dialamah]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Also, it's disrespectful.  

It's like inviting a visitor into your home and the first thing they do before even saying Hello is start complaining about all the things they don't like about your home.  Not off to a great start of a relationship, don't you think?

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No, it's not.  Immigrating to a country is not like visiting a friend or neighbor.  A closer analogy would be a homebuyer or even renter looking at a property, noticing some things and saying to the homeseller/landlord "I want to negotiate this before I sign on the dotted line".   

 

[taxme]

4 hours ago, hot enough said:

You racist folks just can't win. Pretty much everything you write and say reveals this, your racist agenda. 

Is that the only word in your liberal zionist vocabulary is racist? Why are you not able to carry on an intelligent conversation and debate an event or issue at hand without throwing the word racist around? I am getting sick and tired of liberals like you who call anyone a racist just because they are questioning an event or government policy. Get real will you.

[taxme]

6 hours ago, dialamah said:

Perhaps Liberals and NDP get more votes from minorities because conservatives support anti-immigrant policies and bigotted attitudes.

Well, maybe the next time the conservatives get in to power they should smarten up, and stop all immigration especially from those countries where those minorities are coming from? Then you will be safe to use the bigotry and racist words. But all the years that the conservatives were in power, the majority of our new immigrants came from the non-white world. Where was the racism or bigotry there? It would appear as though all the racism and bigotry in time will be going against white people instead in the not to distant future thanks to the white liberals and the white NDP.   

[dialamah]

Just now, taxme said:

But all the years that the conservatives were in power, the majority of our new immigrants came from the non-white world

Yes, they did.  Proving that sometimes the government turns out to be smarter than the people who support them.  

[taxme]

4 hours ago, hot enough said:

Your western civilization is hardly civil or "ization". 

I can safely say that most of those non-western countries out there are very uncivilized. But I guess from your reply that you just have not noticed that yet, eh? It is time for you to catch up on some reading, and start listening a little more. Try it. You may just learn something.  

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Do you have anything to say on the topic here or what?

Hot appears to have a very limited vocabulary. And one of the words hot knows really well and likes to bat around is that word racist. Otherwise, hot has nothing really to add here.  

[taxme]

34 minutes ago, dialamah said:

No, it's not.  Immigrating to a country is not like visiting a friend or neighbor.  A closer analogy would be a homebuyer or even renter looking at a property, noticing some things and saying to the homeseller/landlord "I want to negotiate this before I sign on the dotted line".   

 

Ya, like a muslim saying I want sharia law implemented in Canada or I do not want to become a citizen, and sign on the dotted line. 

[Omni]

8 minutes ago, taxme said:

I can safely say that most of those non-western countries out there are very uncivilized. But I guess from your reply that you just have not noticed that yet, eh? It is time for you to catch up on some reading, and start listening a little more. Try it. You may just learn something.  

You can safely say it, but can you prove it? And just what do you mean by uncivilized? If you are talking about crime rates for instance, your theory goes down the tubes. The highest crime rates on the planet are from guess where.....The US. 

[taxme]

15 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Yes, they did.  Proving that sometimes the government turns out to be smarter than the people who support them.  

It has more to do with being politically correct and being pro-multiculturalism. Unfortunately, that is what the conservatives have become today. It is fast turning out to appear as though the government is not so smart after all. Patriots like me and many others are the real smart and intelligent people in Canada. It is just that most Canadians have not noticed that yet. Still in their slumber. Aw well. 

[dialamah]

Just now, taxme said:

 It is fast turning out to appear as though the government is not so smart after all. Patriots like me and many others are the real smart and intelligent people in Canada. It is just that most Canadians have not noticed that yet. Still in their slumber. Aw well. 

 

Have you heard of the Duning-Kruger effect?  

[taxme]

6 minutes ago, Omni said:

You can safely say it, but can you prove it? And just what do you mean by uncivilized? If you are talking about crime rates for instance, your theory goes down the tubes. The highest crime rates on the planet are from guess where.....The US. 

Yes I can. In many African countries young girls are forced to have their private parts removed. That is uncivilized. In many Arab countries young girls are raped by older men without any repercussions. Women are stoned to death and gays are thrown off of rooftops. That is uncivilized. Is that enough for you or do you want more? 

You certainly are one that always will find faults about the western countries but as a typical liberal you can never seem to be able to criticize non-white countries, and some of the sick pathetic things that they do to some of their people. deplorable indeed.  

[taxme]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

Have you heard of the Duning-Kruger effect?  

No, but go ahead and tell me. Probably something to do with insulting patriots. 

[Argus]

22 hours ago, dialamah said:

Rightists want to put their heads in the sand and pretend that its ok to spread misinformation about people and then enact laws based on that misinformation.  Case in point:  FGM is believed to be only an Islamic practice, by those who uncritically believe everything right-wing media sources say. 

This is the sort of all-purpose nonsense we see from politicians when they talk about street gangs and violence. They'll say something like "Street gang members come in all nationalities." And they're right. Why, there's probably at least one white guy for every ninety nine black, asian and arab guys. But of course, the reason they use such language is an attempt to pretend that the problem is not related to specific ethnic groups - even though it is. 

With FGM, the OVERWHELMING majority of those who practice this barbaric act are indeed Muslims.

[Argus]

14 hours ago, Omni said:

You can safely say it, but can you prove it? 

Yeah. http://democracyranking.org/wordpress/rank/2012-2/