GostHacked Posted May 24, 2017 Report Posted May 24, 2017 On 5/16/2017 at 8:16 PM, JamesHackerMP said: God, another blame-America-first person...it seems that even your fellow Canadians tire of the old cliche, too. So, out of the most powerful nations on Earth, hotenough, whom would you prefer to be the superpower? (or "hyperpower" as the French put it) I specifically make the claim against certain groups/people within the US government. Your tactic of criticism equaling hate for all of them is nothing but idiocy. 1 Quote
JamesHackerMP Posted May 24, 2017 Report Posted May 24, 2017 If you say so. I never said you hated us, just that you seem to have fallen into the trap that the US is this big monolithic bogeyman with Machiavellian designs on the rest of the human race. Quote "We're not above nature, Mr Hacker, we're part of it. Men are animals, too!" "I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons!" [Yes, Minister]
eyeball Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 Machiavellian designs on wealth and power you mean. It couldn't give a damn about the human beings that takes. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 US is bad who says?? The drop of atomic bomb on Japan killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, the massacre of millions of Vietnamis in Vietnam war, the support for most corrupt dictators for decades in South and Central America and Middle East, the current support for most despotic backward regime and selling arms and praising them like the Persian Gulf Arab Sheikdoms and Saudi Arabia. With all these how could US be bad???? US is evil. Quote
JamesHackerMP Posted May 26, 2017 Report Posted May 26, 2017 23 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: US is bad who says?? The drop of atomic bomb on Japan killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, the massacre of millions of Vietnamis in Vietnam war, the support for most corrupt dictators for decades in South and Central America and Middle East, the current support for most despotic backward regime and selling arms and praising them like the Persian Gulf Arab Sheikdoms and Saudi Arabia. With all these how could US be bad???? US is evil. Quote "We're not above nature, Mr Hacker, we're part of it. Men are animals, too!" "I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons!" [Yes, Minister]
GostHacked Posted May 30, 2017 Report Posted May 30, 2017 On 5/24/2017 at 6:55 PM, JamesHackerMP said: If you say so. I never said you hated us, just that you seem to have fallen into the trap that the US is this big monolithic bogeyman with Machiavellian designs on the rest of the human race. I always make specific claims regarding the US's actions which I have stated here many many times. But when the US claims to be a force for good and you leave a path of destruction in it's wake, you have to wonder what is going on? Oh we also know now the Philippines is almost under ISIS control, but when is the US ready to put boots to the ground there? Quote
Motti Posted June 2, 2017 Report Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Quote The Myth - US as a force for good Actually, it is real. If you are a Saudi or if you are ISIS Edited June 2, 2017 by Motti Quote
Motti Posted June 2, 2017 Report Posted June 2, 2017 Pump the population with "American exceptionalism" myths repeatedly, and they will endorse any foreign misadventure for the US military-industrial-complex at their own expense. The US as a "force for good" is part of that American exceptionalism myth. You are only a "force for good" when you can provide for your own citizens. How many US "conservatives" had lampooned Canada's healthcare system till they themselves had to forge fraudulent claims of kinship or impending marriage to get the very "free stuff" they once detested? Just google up, "US veterans, suicide" or "US veterans, healthcare" and you will come across an unending litany of exceptional and callous disregard for the very self-described "forces of good" Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Posted June 2, 2017 9 hours ago, Motti said: ...Just google up, "US veterans, suicide" or "US veterans, healthcare" and you will come across an unending litany of exceptional and callous disregard for the very self-described "forces of good" But Google is also American....another force for good ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Motti Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 Quote But Google is also American....another force for good ? The head of its search engine AI and algorithm development is an Indian chap I believe. It's time to Make America Great Again by restricting such internationalization of US workforces. Trump will rise to the occasion. Covfefe! Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 On 2017-05-24 at 3:55 PM, JamesHackerMP said: If you say so. I never said you hated us, just that you seem to have fallen into the trap that the US is this big monolithic bogeyman with Machiavellian designs on the rest of the human race. Well, your 'leader of your universe' cares not one iota for the human race. Only about fictitious JOBS!! Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Guest Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 40 minutes ago, WestCoastRunner said: Well, your 'leader of your universe' cares not one iota for the human race. Only about fictitious JOBS!! Yeah, but not all Americans are terrorists Trump supporters. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Motti said: The head of its search engine AI and algorithm development is an Indian chap I believe. It's time to Make America Great Again by restricting such internationalization of US workforces. Trump will rise to the occasion. Covfefe! And I believe that more Indian chaps and chapettes migrate to the United States for such work than Americans going to India. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 On 5/25/2017 at 6:21 AM, CITIZEN_2015 said: US is bad who says?? The drop of atomic bomb on Japan killing hundreds of thousands of civilians Actually it saved millions of lives. On 5/25/2017 at 6:21 AM, CITIZEN_2015 said: , the massacre of millions of Vietnamis in Vietnam war, Death is the only proper punishment for violent Communists. On 5/25/2017 at 6:21 AM, CITIZEN_2015 said: the support for most corrupt dictators for decades in South and Central America and Middle East, What does support even mean? All regimes outside the West are corrupt and despotic. Are we supposed to be the enemies of all of them? On 5/25/2017 at 6:21 AM, CITIZEN_2015 said: the current support for most despotic backward regime and selling arms and praising them like the Persian Gulf Arab Sheikdoms and Saudi Arabia. Would it make you feel better if they bought their weapons from the Russians instead? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Omni Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 41 minutes ago, Argus said: Would it make you feel better if they bought their weapons from the Russians instead? Supporting Trump now I see. Quote
eyeball Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Argus said: What does support (for dictators) even mean? All regimes outside the West are corrupt and despotic. Are we supposed to be the enemies of all of them? Would someone else please explain to Argus we're just not supposed to be friends with dictators. Any of them...at all. Look at it this way...what would I be if I mailed a cheque to ISIS? Edited June 5, 2017 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Omni Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: Would someone else please explain to Argus we're just not supposed to be friends with dictators. Any of them...at all. Look at it this way...what would I be if I mailed a cheque to ISIS? Not sure how one would do that. It seems he reckons as long as one buys their weapons from the right dictators all is well. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 57 minutes ago, eyeball said: Would someone else please explain to Argus we're just not supposed to be friends with dictators. Any of them...at all. You are just kidding...right ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: You are just kidding...right ? Oh yeah we all understand that if Trump wants an opinion Putin will give it to him. Quote
eyeball Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: You are just kidding...right ? You think if I said 'I was just kidding' when the cops arrest me for sending ISIS a cheque, they'd let me go? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) On 6/4/2017 at 11:07 AM, Argus said: Actually it saved millions of lives. Even if true Saving lives by taking lives is just arithmatic I am not sure is proper when it comes to human lives. Death is the only proper punishment for violent Communists. What violent Communists?. It was their country and the US staged a rigged election and imposed a corrupt pro-US regime and then once the people rose up then send its troops to kill the people and its air planes to massively bomb innocent defenseless people of Vietnam. What does support even mean? All regimes outside the West are corrupt and despotic. Are we supposed to be the enemies of all of them? Support means selling arms to mass murderers so that they have arms to kill defenseless people of their own in order to stay in power and preserve the interests of teh US Would it make you feel better if they bought their weapons from the Russians instead? The Russians are a lot worse than the US. The topic is on the US. The Russian regimes one after another are responsible for mass killings all over the world. More recently they have bombed and killed many thousands in Syria as just one example out of many. Putin is a murderous bastard who is supporting another fierce mass murderer bastard Bashir Assad who is killing hundreds of thousands of defenseless innocent people. Down with Russia and Death to Bashir Assad. Edited June 6, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Guest Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 On 2017-06-04 at 10:45 PM, eyeball said: You think if I said 'I was just kidding' when the cops arrest me for sending ISIS a cheque, they'd let me go? Depends... How many cheques do you have? Quote
hot enough Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/4/2017 at 10:33 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: On 6/4/2017 at 9:36 PM, eyeball said: Would someone else please explain to Argus we're just not supposed to be friends with dictators. Any of them...at all. B_C: You are just kidding...right ? Here is more of you reveling in the slaughter of innocents. Quote
hot enough Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Posted June 14, 2017 The myth, the biggest one that has ever been bandied about in the history of the world, the US as a force for good. "Kill Em All" - U.S. War Crimes in Korea Quote
hot enough Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/2/2017 at 8:09 PM, bcsapper said: Yeah, but not all Americans are terrorists Trump supporters. Most Americans are terrorist supporters and as Bush says, you support terrorists, you are a terrorist. Quote
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