Suspected terrorist attack in London 4 dead including the attacker

[hot enough]

53 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Nothing says "Religion of Peace" like ploughing a car through crowds of people.....or "just" a car and knife attack.

Wow.

Nothing says "kind and benevolent US/UK" like murdering half a million Iraqi children and another half a million Iraqi adults in the 1990s. And then a further million or so in the illegal invasion of 2003, based completely on lies.

[overthere]

4 minutes ago, hot enough said:

It is very simple actually. How do you think that the vast majority of US citizens, and most westerners who are equally brainwashed, think that the USA is a kind, benevolent peace loving country when it is totally the opposite. It's a nation born of terrorism and genocide, it has been at war for some 93% of its years as a "nation". 

 

Why do you think that Americans or Westerners believe anything of the sort?  Why wuld anybody spoend one nickel on guns or armies or cops if they though the world was a gentle, kind place.  You've been watching too much Elmo on PBS.

 

As compared to the Muslim world, which has been killing each other and infidels for every day of its existence for about 1300 years.  The US is achievers, but far, far from that sort of record.

[overthere]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Nothing says "kind and benevolent US/UK" like murdering half a million Iraqi children and another half a million Iraqi adults in the 1990s. And then a further million or so in the illegal invasion of 2003, based completely on lies.

They are pikers compared to the war fought on the same ground in the 80s between Iraq and Iran, probably 2 million killed  in a war that was fought for religious ideology, ego and greed.  A few years later, Uncle Saddam did it again in Kuwait.  Did you applaud both?

[Altai]

Britain called terror attacks as "bomb blast" and "attack" which were happened in Turkiye in recent months.  They didnt call it "terror", because Britain itself is a terrorist country.
 

[hot enough]

7 minutes ago, overthere said:

They are pikers compared to the war fought on the same ground in the 80s between Iraq and Iran, probably 2 million killed  in a war that was fought for religious ideology, ego and greed.  A few years later, Uncle Saddam did it again in Kuwait.  Did you applaud both?

You are talking about the war that the US encouraged Iraq to start and then supplied them with chemical weapons that were used on Iranians. 

Bush the big told Saddam that the US had no interest in regional differences. Then the US flipped, and ended that conflict with a massive war crimes - The Highway of Death. 

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, Altai said:

Britain called terror attacks as "bomb blast" and "attack" which were happened in Turkiye in recent months.  They didnt call it "terror", because Britain itself is a terrorist country.
 

Yup, the UK is number two, right behind the USA.

[Altai]

40 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Yup, the UK is number two, right behind the USA.

Yes, this attack is probably another false flag. The attacker is killed as usual and he was a person who had relations with intelligence in the past. He also had some other  criminal records. 

Why its not an ordinary family man ? There are 3 million (according to British govt.) Muslims in Britain and how come the one who had relations with intelligence performs an attack but not the rest 2.999.999 persons ?
 

Edited March 26, 2017 by Altai

[Altai]

I want to know what this person did in his last weeks. British govt can easily reach the camera recordings of his district. Where he was gone, whom he was met. I want to see that.

Where is his family ? I want to listen his family, I want to listen his best friends.
 

[Rue]

3 hours ago, GostHacked said:

It's not pointless. And no where did I blame int on British people. I am always indicating it is the government and foreign policy. How pathetic

If you want to know what I am thinking ask instead of your stupid and mostly wrong projections. That is what is really pathetic here.

The only thing pathetic is how you try back track from your words. You spew them out then try pull what this little Michael Jackson backpedal move?

Lol. Real smooth moves Bwana.

Edited March 26, 2017 by Rue

[Rue]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

It is very simple actually. How do you think that the vast majority of US citizens, and most westerners who are equally brainwashed, think that the USA is a kind, benevolent peace loving country when it is totally the opposite. It's a nation born of terrorism and genocide, it has been at war for some 93% of its years as a "nation". 

 

So now let's see. the vast majority of not just US citizens but MOST Westerns are brainwashed. Hey nice to know.

As I stated earlier, your agenda is simply  to come on this forum and justify terrorism by stereotyping the entire West's civilians as evil.

You don't you have the integrity to explain your actual religious views and why you support terrorism.

 

 

Edited March 26, 2017 by Rue

[Rue]

1 hour ago, Altai said:

Britain called terror attacks as "bomb blast" and "attack" which were happened in Turkiye in recent months.  They didnt call it "terror", because Britain itself is a terrorist country.
 

For anyone British, you call sausages bangers. That is proof you are terrorists. 

 

[hot enough]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

So now let's see. the vast majority of not just US citizens but MOST Westerns are brainwashed. Hey nice to know.

As I stated earlier, your agenda is simply  to come on this forum and justify terrorism by stereotyping the entire West's civilians as evil.

You don't you have the integrity to explain your actual religious views and why you support terrorism.

 

You state, and overstate lots of things, Rue, in way overly voluble ways. 

[hot enough]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

For anyone British, you call sausages bangers. That is proof you are terrorists. 

 

Wow! The "logic"!

[Hal 9000]

On 2017-03-24 at 8:48 PM, hernanday said:

His target was government, its why he went after police officers. Its why he tried to access government buildings.  He knew just driving the car on the sidewalk, there was a good chance he'd hit someone, anyone, tied to government, because that area is full of government workers.

 

Now if he went and bombed a bus in some suburb, or shot up some school (like adam lanza) that would be obvious a much more soft target, he'd probably get away with it or kill alot more people.  There was no real logic, to targetting that area, if his job was terrorism.  I say this as a person who has been to London, there are areas that are so crowded, in downtown london, where he could pull out a gun, start shooting, and easily kill 200-300 people before a cop could get on the scene.

Terrorism isn't necessarily about numbers.

[kactus]

2 hours ago, Rue said:

For anyone British, you call sausages bangers. That is proof you are terrorists. 

 

Bangers n' Mash is the exquisite, nutritional British cuisine.

[capricorn]

18 minutes ago, kactus said:

Bangers n' Mash is the exquisite, nutritional British cuisine.

Bangers and mashed can't beat haggis, neeps and tatties.

[kactus]

1 minute ago, capricorn said:

Bangers and mashed can't beat haggis, neeps and tatties.

Haggis is more local like Deep Fried Mars...

Try the regional Spotted Dick.

[capricorn]

1 minute ago, kactus said:

Try the regional Spotted Dick.

Would an injection offer protection from the Spotted Dick? 

[kactus]

Just now, capricorn said:

Would an injection offer protection from the Spotted Dick? 

There's always a first....

[marcus]

On 3/24/2017 at 6:06 PM, OftenWrong said:

After 9/11, Bush's hand was pretty much forced. Something had to be done to prevent more attacks and ensure US supremacy. It's easy for us to criticize things from a distance, after the fact.

Fully disagree with your analysis and yet another pass you're trying to give.

The neo-cons, led by Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz had been pushing for an attack on Iraq since before 911. They actually tried to push for the Iraq attack right after 911, but then they got some pushback. Especially since Iraq had 0 to do with the attack. Then they said, okay, fine, we'll go to Afghanistan. But then of course, the whole Iraq WMD and attack followed after. This is when the Bush administration, knowingly, cooked up so-called evidence and used that as an excuse to shock and awe Iraq into becoming a lawless terrorist haven. That's when the old Saddam generals and well-paid (by Saudi and Gulf States) mercenaries from around the Wahabi world started arriving into Iraq to form what is now ISIS/ISIL/DAESH.

Looking at U.S.' adventures around the world and you will notice that "regime change and order" has never been the end result. It has always been chaos and terrible consequences. Look at what Bush and Obama have created in the Middle East. Perhaps this is an indication that it's not a good idea and people should speak against it, instead of "oh it might work next time. let's give these guys a break."

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, marcus said:

...The neo-cons, led by Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz had been pushing for an attack on Iraq since before 911. They actually tried to push for the Iraq attack right after 911, but then they got some pushback.

 

Actually, Iraq had been attacked long before Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz came on scene.   Clinton and Blair repeatedly attacked Iraq, culminating in a large air/cruise missile assault in December 1998 ("Desert Fox") when about 100 sites were bombed over four days.   This was after UN sanctions, supported and enforced by Canada, failed to bring Saddam into compliance with post Gulf War surrender instruments.   The U.S. Congress authorized "regime change" in Iraq as a matter of American public law (H.R. 4655 Iraq Liberation Act).

Numerous terrorist attacks, murders, and hijackings pre-date 911 and contemporary "blowback" by many years.  

 

Edited March 27, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[Guest]

6 hours ago, kactus said:

Aftermath of the terror attack in London has prompted the UK government to look into social media devices like WhatsApp and decipher what the encrypted messages will tell the intelligence agencies...

Do you think this is a good idea and what are the pro's and con's? 

I can't think of any cons.

[H10]

On 3/25/2017 at 3:24 PM, Argus said:

Even the kids?

Yup, just like the kids of terrorist killed by US missile strikes.  The assumption was guilt by association.

[kactus]

6 hours ago, bcsapper said:

I can't think of any cons.

Depriving people from their privacy is something to consider too.

UK has a legacy in his area. Rupert Murdoch scandal in the light of the knowledge he had from phone hacking the MP's conversations.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-british-scandal-murdoch-20150611-story.html

 

[Rue]

14 hours ago, hot enough said:

You state, and overstate lots of things, Rue, in way overly voluble ways. 

What that you have come on this board and on a thread to discuss a London terrorist attack deny its a terrorist attack and try change the subject to draw a moral equivalency between what the terrorist did and what you perceive is the West engaging in terrorism against Muslims?

Overly voluble. Lol.

You know what your agenda is. Have the integrity to state it and stop couching your words.