Argus Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Yonge Street probably seems scary to out-of-towners. It seems fine to me. Yeah, but you'd be just as happy in Hong Kong. It doesn't seem to me from your postings you have any particular national affiliation. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 14 hours ago, hot enough said: This is one of the most confused posts I have ever read. And I dare say, racist. I'm more than willing to accept white gangs but all the other non-white gangs, well they are just scumbags. There are no white street gangs that I've heard of. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 Just now, Argus said: There are no white street gangs that I've heard of. Clint Eastwood movies....there are tons. And multi-ethnic gangs. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Michael Hardner Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Argus said: Yeah, but you'd be just as happy in Hong Kong. It doesn't seem to me from your postings you have any particular national affiliation. That's entirely beside the point to what was being discussed. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Clint Eastwood movies....there are tons. And multi-ethnic gangs. Yeah, I meant in reality. Like on Hill Street Blues they'd have to have lots of white suspects, even though they almost always investigated murder, which is mostly street gangs, and even though almost all street criminals in New York are black and hispanic. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 Just now, Argus said: Yeah, I meant in reality. Like on Hill Street Blues they'd have to have lots of white suspects, even though they almost always investigated murder, which is mostly street gangs, and even though almost all street criminals in New York are black and hispanic. Oh reality... I can't think of any off hand: street gangs comparable to 18th Street or MS-13 et al. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: That's entirely beside the point to what was being discussed. The point I'm making is your perceptions are incorrect as they appear to come from what I believe is an unusual lack of attachment to people of the same cultural background. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Oh reality... I can't think of any off hand: street gangs comparable to 18th Street or MS-13 et al. Actually, I meant NYPD Blues, but as I recall, Hill Street Blues, which was set in Chicago, had an Irish street gang where its leaders actually wore (I kid you not) green derby hats. I've never heard of a white street gang in Toronto or Ottawa either. In Toronto most are Black. In Ottawa, virtually all are Black or Arab. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Argus said: Actually, I meant NYPD Blues, but as I recall, Hill Street Blues, which was set in Chicago, had an Irish street gang where its leaders actually wore (I kid you not) green derby hats. I've never heard of a white street gang in Toronto or Ottawa either. In Toronto most are Black. In Ottawa, virtually all are Black or Arab. The Hell's Angels run this city...but to call them a street gang is a stretch. Old men with expensive motorcycles. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Michael Hardner Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, Argus said: The point I'm making is your perceptions are incorrect as they appear to come from what I believe is an unusual lack of attachment to people of the same cultural background. We were talking about criminals on Yonge St. Do you feel comfortable around criminals? Do you feel Uncomfortable around NON criminals of a different race? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: We were talking about criminals on Yonge St. Do you feel comfortable around criminals? Do you feel Uncomfortable around NON criminals of a different race? I thought we were talking about revoking citizenship. I don't feel comfortable around criminals. I feel more comfortable and more kinship around people who share my cultural values and language than those who do not share my cultural values and language. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hot enough Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, Argus said: There are no white street gangs that I've heard of. Right from OftenWrong's source. "... 27% of criminal youth gang members self-identify as white ... " Do you ever read anything, Argus? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Argus said: 2 minutes ago, Argus said: I feel more comfortable and more kinship around people who share my cultural values and language than those who do not share my cultural values and language. How in the world can you tell that by looking at someone? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, hot enough said: Right from OftenWrong's source. "... 27% of criminal youth gang members self-identify as white ... " Do you ever read anything, Argus? A lot of people self-identify as white who aren't white. We're the top dogs. Everyone wants to join. Even the US government used to identify Hispanics as White. They only recently began to separate them into their own category. A lot of Arabs and Persians with light skin identify as white too. I know this because I read a lot, evidently a lot more than you. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: How in the world can you tell that by looking at someone? Why in the world would you suggest that my judgement should be limited to 'looking' at someone? Although, if they're wearing an Arab robe or a hijab that would probably be fairly informative. Also hearing them speaking in a foreign language would be pretty decisive, too. Edited March 18, 2017 by Argus 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hot enough Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Argus said: A lot of people self-identify as white who aren't white. We're the top dogs. Everyone wants to join. There are a lot more honest, fair thinking individuals, far more than the "Trump" type supporters that don't like that there are these groups of whites that advance vicious lies, support illegal invasions based on patently transparent lies, don't like the cowardly nature of these same whites who rejoice in the murder of innocents, the cowardly nature of these same whites who talk big but can't honestly address anything that might burst the false bubble they live in. Edited March 18, 2017 by hot enough 2 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Argus said: A lot of people self-identify as white who aren't white. We're the top dogs. Everyone wants to join. Canada officially labels non-whites as "visible minorities", upholding "white" as the standard. It is government policy at the federal and provincial levels, except for "aboriginals", of course. Can't make this stuff up. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Argus said: Why in the world would you suggest that my judgement should be limited to 'looking' at someone? Although, if they're wearing an Arab robe or a hijab that would probably be fairly informative. Also hearing them speaking in a foreign language would be pretty decisive, too. "Arab robe", "hijab", "hearing them speaking in a foreign language" are clear signs that those people are reacting to all the lies, the BIG LIE and all the lies that have flowed from it. These folks aren't talking about people from France or Spain or Russia or the USA or China or Vietnam or ... . These folks you are focused on are simply the ones that the present hate bandwagon has adopted for obvious political reasons/lies. It used to be Pakis, gooks, slant eyes, wogs, ... . Edited March 18, 2017 by hot enough 2 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canada officially labels non-whites as "visible minorities", upholding "white" as the standard. It is government policy at the federal and provincial levels, except for "aboriginals", of course. Can't make this stuff up. My grocery store still has an 'Ethnic Aisle'...it's a subtle racism. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
OftenWrong Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 5 hours ago, hot enough said: Right from OftenWrong's source. "... 27% of criminal youth gang members self-identify as white ... " Do you ever read anything, Argus? That doesn't necessarily mean they are in all-white street gangs. According to the data given, the majority of gang members are non-white by about 3:1. Quote
hot enough Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 10 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: My grocery store still has an 'Ethnic Aisle'...it's a subtle racism. Don't worry. Folks like you cover the rest. 2 Quote
August1991 Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) On 3/15/2017 at 8:33 AM, SpankyMcFarland said: He's our problem. If we start stripping citizenship for one crime, rest assured we will find other reasons to do it in due course. Why not? Thinking in 21st century terms: What gives you (or anyone) the right to be "Canadian"? Edited March 19, 2017 by August1991 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 10 hours ago, August1991 said: Why not? Thinking in 21st century terms: What gives you (or anyone) the right to be "Canadian"? For persons born here, that is a right they have. The government should not be giving that to them as a favour which it can take away. I see this century shaping up as an era of dwindling personal freedom: constant mass surveillance; a government answerable to oligarchs; the disappearance of traditional work for the majority; even citizenship vulnerable to removal for whatever offence the powers that be deem unacceptable. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 If new Canadians are going to be treated as second class citizens then why even allow immigrants to this country to obtain Canadian citizenship? Quote
Guest Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Newfoundlander said: If new Canadians are going to be treated as second class citizens then why even allow immigrants to this country to obtain Canadian citizenship? Because we're a compassionate, caring country who wants to do all we can to make the world a better place. Edited March 19, 2017 by bcsapper Quote
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