hot enough Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Impact says: The US government says that 10 hijackers flew 2 planes into the WTC twin towers, is that a wild, cockamamie bunko conspiracy theory? The US government says that those 2 planes caused massive damage and started large fires, is that a wild, cockamamie bunko conspiracy theory? The US government says those hijackers were supported by Osama bin Laden, is that a wild, cockamamie bunko conspiracy theory? Discuss. With proof. Edited March 7, 2017 by hot enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Why prove it? I remember it happening. It can't have been a dream. It really can't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 3 hours ago, hot enough said: Impact says: The US government says that 10 hijackers flew 2 planes into the WTC twin towers, is that a wild, cockamamie bunko conspiracy theory? The US government says that those 2 planes caused massive damage and started large fires, is that a wild, cockamamie bunko conspiracy theory? The US government says those hijackers were supported by Osama bin Laden, is that a wild, cockamamie bunko conspiracy theory? Discuss. With proof. You forgot the bit where bin Laden and Al Queda said they did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) FACT: TTowers were collapsed after two planes hit them.CONSPIRACY: TTowers were collapsed because of the planes hit them.CONSPIRACY: TTowers were collapsed because of controlled demolition, not because of the planes hit them.FOLLOWING THE CLUES: TTowers may be collapsed because of planes hit them. There are strong clues supporting it.FOLLOWING THE CLUES: TTowers may be collapsed because of controlled demolition, not because of planes hit them. There are strong clues supporting it. I have a topic related with this issue. Below >>> Edited March 8, 2017 by Altai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 14 hours ago, bcsapper said: Why prove it? I remember it happening. It can't have been a dream. It really can't! It was a criminal conspiracy and the overwhelming evidence says the alleged hijackers didn't do it. Just remember who lied to justify their illegal invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, Laos, China, the Philippines, Angola, ... . Who had the means, the motive, the opportunity? Quote In U.S. criminal law, means, motive, and opportunity is a common summation of the three aspects of a crime that must be established before guilt can be determined in a criminal proceeding. Respectively, they refer to: the ability of the defendant to commit the crime (means), the reason the defendant committed the crime (motive), and whether the defendant had the chance to commit the crime (opportunity). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Means,_motive,_and_opportunity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Viet-Nam, Cambodia and Laos was invaded by the US? That's a new one... I recall this event as one of the few times US troops entered Laos... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Lam_Son_719 But, you believe the Moon Landings are fake, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, hot enough said: It was a criminal conspiracy and the overwhelming evidence says the alleged hijackers didn't do it. Just remember who lied to justify their illegal invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, Laos, China, the Philippines, Angola, ... . Who had the means, the motive, the opportunity? Alleged hijackers didn't do what? Exactly what? They did take flying lessons, board the planes, hijack them and fly them into buildings, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Isn't this thread similar to the other one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, bcsapper said: board the planes, hijack them and fly them into buildings, right? Don't just keep saying it. Go ahead and prove it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, betsy said: Isn't this thread similar to the other one? Every year or so... Edited March 8, 2017 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Every year or so... If it is so abundantly clear, it should be abundantly easy to prove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hot enough said: Don't just keep saying it. Go ahead and prove it. Why? Flat Earthers have to prove the Earth is flat, not the other way around. We already know it is round. Although I am interested now. I just assumed you figured the buildings were demolished, but that's as far as it went. Are you saying they planes were not hijacked at all? What's your theory then? CGI? Edited March 8, 2017 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, bcsapper said: They did take flying lessons, board the planes, hijack them and fly them into buildings, right? You advanced it, bcs, you prove it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, betsy said: Isn't this thread similar to the other one? So far it is, Betsy, for you not providing anything of any value in a intellectual fashion. Edited March 8, 2017 by hot enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, hot enough said: You advanced it, bcs, you prove it. Forget proving it, it's my opinion, based on my experience. I'm curious as to what your opinion is. What is your opinion of the events leading up to the fires starting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Forget proving it, it's my opinion, based on my experience. I'm curious as to what your opinion is. What is your opinion of the events leading up to the fires starting? And you are aware that your opinion means nothing, right? Opinions are like farts in a Chinook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 9 hours ago, Altai said: FOLLOWING THE CLUES: TTowers may be collapsed because of planes hit them. There are strong clues supporting it. There is hearsay, false clues, more hearsay, tons of US government hearsay/propaganda, some clues, even a few strong clues, all in all, a classic conspiracy theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, hot enough said: And you are aware that your opinion means nothing, right? Opinions are like farts in a Chinook. Opinions mean everything. Where would we be without them? Looking for proof for everything? (Did you ever read the HHGTTG series. Think about the actual Ruler of the Universe) What is your opinion of the events leading up to the fires? Edited March 8, 2017 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: What is your opinion of the events leading up to the fires I think the science has demonstrated that any person with anything approaching half a brain should be considering, very seriously, their "opinions". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, hot enough said: I think the science has demonstrated that any person with anything approaching half a brain should be considering, very seriously, their "opinions". What do both halves of your brain think about of the events leading up to the fires? Do they even agree? Edited March 8, 2017 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 38 minutes ago, hot enough said: I think the science has demonstrated that any person with anything approaching half a brain should be considering, very seriously, their "opinions". And anyone with half a brain would realize that setting up two 110 story building for demolition would have been noticed by someone. . . ANYONE! Not a single person has come forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 hour ago, hot enough said: There is hearsay, false clues, more hearsay, tons of US government hearsay/propaganda, some clues, even a few strong clues, all in all, a classic conspiracy theory. But clues should be precisely proven true informations.Below some true information examples; Planes hit the towers Towers collapsed after planes hit them Thousands of people were murderedBelow some suspicious/false informations; Towers were collapsed because of steel columns were melted. (Scientifically unreasonable) A person with a shalwar on his ass and knife in his hands, from tens of thousands of miles away, was planned such a terror attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 hour ago, hot enough said: It was a criminal conspiracy and the overwhelming evidence says the alleged hijackers didn't do it. Just remember who lied to justify their illegal invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, Laos, China, the Philippines, Angola, ... . Who had the means, the motive, the opportunity? I wouldn't put it past the US government to do this kind of thing. But I don't think they could pull it off even if they tried. This is the same government that loses control of hundreds of thousands of classified documents every year. Intelligence work is farmed out to thousands of private subcontractors. They leak like a sieve though and are terrible at controlling their data. They MAY have quietly ignored intelligence signals... They HAD been warned that terrorists were trying to fly airliners into US buildings before 911, and they were quite possibly stupid and negligent. But as for being the actual perps and planners, I don't find that believable. The Bush Administration could not plan a bake sale, never mind a massive attack against their own citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, Boges said: And anyone with half a brain would realize that setting up two 110 story building for demolition would have been noticed by someone. . . ANYONE! Not a single person has come forward. If you go to, http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/26612-why-all-the-worldwide-turmoil/ there is evidence clearing the alleged hijackers from causing the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 and 7. WTC7 fell at free speed, molten/vaporized steel, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot enough Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, dre said: But I don't think they could pull it off even if they tried. They didn't. They blew [no pun intended] many things, most notably using an explosive that was only accessible to the US government/military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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