kactus Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Quote Canada’s prime minister, Justin Trudeau, has told MEPs the European Union is vital to the world’s peace and prosperity, in a rousing speech that appeared to distance him from the United States under Donald Trump. Speaking in both English and French, Trudeau told the European parliament that the EU was an unprecedented model for cooperation and that an effective European voice on the global stage was not just preferable but essential. “You are a vital player in addressing the challenges that we collectively face as an international community. Indeed, the whole world benefits from a strong EU,” he said. Have great respect and admiration for this prime minister. Many try to dismiss him for his dislike for Trump and blame him for domestic policies....The reality is he is more respected and has more gravitas than Trump on any day in his presidency. Mr Trudeau has played it tactfully well to 'contain' Trump. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/16/justin-trudeau-european-parliament-whole-world-benefits-from-a-strong-eu Edited February 17, 2017 by kactus 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Another example of defining a Canadian in terms of an American. However, Mr. Trump is still far more important to the EU/NATO than is Mr. Trudeau. Trudeau cannot 'contain' Trump....he can't even ignore Trump. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PM Merkel of Germany easily upstages Trudeau by spending more money on defense/NATO http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/merkel-trudeau-ayed-1.3987580 Edited February 17, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: PM Merkel of Germany easily upstages Trudeau by spending more money Great, my pocket book loves being upstaged by someone willing to buy lunch. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Pocket book issues in Canada really sums up the world stage limitations for PM Trudeau. Speeches are great, but somebody eventually has to pay for lunch. Canada's voting percentage for the IMF is about 2.3%. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canada's voting percentage for the IMF is about 2.3%. Then we are way above our weight class since we have less than 0.5% of the population. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Then we are way above our weight class since we have less than 0.5% of the population. No, Canada's GDP is #10 or #11...so "punching way below its weight" for IMF. Edited February 17, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: No, Canada's GDP is #10 or #11...so "punching way below its weight" for IMF. Apples and Oranges. The United States is south of us, so it should bear 100% of the weight according to your illogic. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 PM Angela Merkel is the most powerful politician in Europe, with a long tenure. PM Trudeau isn't the most powerful anything...anywhere. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
betsy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, kactus said: Have great respect and admiration for this prime minister. Many try to dismiss him for his dislike for Trump and blame him for domestic policies....The reality is he is more respected and has more gravitas than Trump on any day in his presidency. Mr Trudeau has played it tactfully well to 'contain' Trump. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/16/justin-trudeau-european-parliament-whole-world-benefits-from-a-strong-eu Hahahaha...with Brexit, EU is really on shaky ground. They can feel the ground shifting. The only reason Trudeau is "looked up to" by EU is due to the fact that he's been endorsed by Obama. He is an Obama lackey. He's been tasked by Obama and Biden to continue the Obama vision, remember? Mind you, I give him an A for obedience. With Trump cheering wildly for Brexit, and stands for everything in contrast with EU...... Trudeau is the only one from this continent EU share visions with, who else? Edited February 17, 2017 by betsy Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, betsy said: Hahahaha...with Brexit, EU is really on shaki ground. They can feel the ground shifting. The only reason Trudeau is "looked up to" by EU is due to the fact that he's been endorsed by Obama. He is an Obama lackey. With Trump cheering wildly for Brexit, Trudeau is the only one from this continent EU share visions with, who else? True.....on the way out of office, former U.S. VP Joe Biden patted Justin Trudeau on the head like a dog and told him to guard left wing values. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
betsy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: True.....on the way out of office, former U.S. VP Joe Biden patted Justin Trudeau on the head like a dog and told him to guard left wing values. I must say, he's been well-trained. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, betsy said: I must say, he's been well-trained. Indeed.....Justin Trudeau is still a poodle for Obama/Biden, and they are no longer even in office. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Posted February 17, 2017 Under 40% popularity for Trump is not something to be bragging about. Let's be clear he can do the talk altgough really badly but cannit do the walk....I wonder why?? 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Trudeau is below 50% and fading fast....pretty bad for a politician who is loved so much for his "sunny ways". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
-TSS- Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Canada was clever to hurry up a trade deal with the EU while Trump is antagonising the EU. If that is Trudeau's credit then he isnt as useless as some make him to be. However, I understand that the negotiations for that deal had been going on for years. Quote
kactus Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Posted February 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, betsy said: Hahahaha...with Brexit, EU is really on shaky ground. They can feel the ground shifting. The only reason Trudeau is "looked up to" by EU is due to the fact that he's been endorsed by Obama. He is an Obama lackey. He's been tasked by Obama and Biden to continue the Obama vision, remember? Mind you, I give him an A for obedience. With Trump cheering wildly for Brexit, and stands for everything in contrast with EU...... Trudeau is the only one from this continent EU share visions with, who else? You do realise that it takes UK two years to come out of EU after article 50 is invoked depending on how those negotiations with european counterparts goes....Right? After 4 weeks in office and a sacking of former national security advisor and falling out with court There is very little credibility in Trump right now. Last I heard his new nominee has refused to step up to the plate and accept the role....wonder why.... Quote
betsy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, kactus said: Under 40% popularity for Trump is not something to be bragging about. Let's be clear he can do the talk altgough really badly but cannit do the walk....I wonder why?? What's popularity got to do with this? That's becoming the standard go-to response, or the sink at the bottom of the barrel, the old method of deflection I suppose, when someone cannot rebutt. Quote
kactus Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, betsy said: What's popularity got to do with this? That's becoming the standard go-to response, or the sink at the bottom of the barrel, the old method of deflection I suppose, when someone cannot rebutt. They say popularity vote is like a barometer to gauge the performance of a president.... Forgive me if that's what the poll shows and you are not happy with it. Sorry about that.... Quote
?Impact Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, kactus said: Last I heard his new nominee has refused to step up to the plate and accept the role....wonder why.... One of the reasons retired Vice Adm. Robert Harward turned down the job was Trump wanted him to keep the old staff including Trump's favourite Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland who was a former pundit for Fox news. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 45 minutes ago, kactus said: They say popularity vote is like a barometer to gauge the performance of a president.... Forgive me if that's what the poll shows and you are not happy with it. Sorry about that.... If that's the case, then Justin Trudeau is in big trouble as well. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: PM Angela Merkel is the most powerful politician in Europe, with a long tenure. Maybe that's why she and Trudeau are having private dinner meetings while Trump is kicking tires on planes in South Carolina Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, -TSS- said: Canada was clever to hurry up a trade deal with the EU while Trump is antagonising the EU. If that is Trudeau's credit then he isnt as useless as some make him to be. However, I understand that the negotiations for that deal had been going on for years. Canada can't even sell seal products in Europe, let alone shift 75% of exports to the EU. Canada should have diversified exports a long time ago regardless of Trump. CETA was started on PM Harper's watch...not Trudeau's. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
blueblood Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canada can't even sell seal products in Europe, let alone shift 75% of exports to the EU. Canada should have diversified exports a long time ago regardless of Trump. CETA was started on PM Harper's watch...not Trudeau's. Correct all they had to do was sign. Deja vu all over again... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
kactus Posted February 18, 2017 Author Report Posted February 18, 2017 21 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: If that's the case, then Justin Trudeau is in big trouble as well. Trump's demise as a credible POTUS does NOT depend on Justin Trudeau... Day by day he is digging a bigger hole. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 18, 2017 Report Posted February 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, kactus said: Trump's demise as a credible POTUS does NOT depend on Justin Trudeau... Trudeau's political demise started before Trump ever became POTUS. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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