eyeball Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 I guess we all got it coming then don't we? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I guess we all got it coming then don't we? Not necessarily. We just keep the fight "over there". Keep poundin 'em. Quote
eyeball Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Over there? I'm sure if you look you'll find em' hiding under your bed. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 41 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Not necessarily. We just keep the fight "over there". Keep poundin 'em. Oh but the saudis have already screwed the US "over here" but they are "friends"...."Good friends" Oh the irony.... Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, kactus said: Oh but the saudis have already screwed the US "over here" but they are "friends"...."Good friends" Oh the irony.... This attitude of yours would be fine by me, if you at least protested Obama in 2011. But somehow, methinks you did not. You were probably blissfully unaware of how Obama enacted similar laws, and also deported millions from the USA. Oh, the hypocrissy Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Once the U.S. declares war on Iran, I think all the Iranian nationals in the U.S. should leave. They could be like spies or something. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Speaking for myself, I think Obama should've been arrested and charged with crimes against humanity years ago, for drone strikes and torture. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: Speaking for myself, I think Obama should've been arrested and charged with crimes against humanity years ago, for drone strikes and torture. He got a Nobel Peace Prize instead. Zing ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 58 minutes ago, eyeball said: Over there? I'm sure if you look you'll find em' hiding under your bed. Not yet, but the Liberals are heading us toward that way, We need leadership that has the guts to shut this crap down. Stupid, ignorant leftist leadership is taking us to the very brink. Trump is exploring alternate models for protecting refugees, without bringing them in to the US homeland. That makes much more sense than displacing millions from the own country. Most refugees prefer to stay home, among their own kind. Quote
drummindiver Posted February 11, 2017 Author Report Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Sorry, I forgot facetiousness baffles you. What people practice in their own country is their business. Washington made it America's business to see to it however that Iran was subjected to a dictatorship instead. Imagine that eh, the most powerful and Shiniest Beacon of democracy on the planet killing democracy and installing dictators instead. It's disgusting, like priests raping children. Who and why on Earth would anyone want to defend or apologize or otherwise shrug off such an abomination is beyond me. There clearly something wrong with anyone who would do that. What you don't seem to grasp is their freedoms when backed by Americans vs after. I know others suffering so you can blame Evil Empire is your purpose nd joy in life. Little full on crazy with the priest comment. Quote
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: This attitude of yours would be fine by me, if you at least protested Obama in 2011. But somehow, methinks you did not. You were probably blissfully unaware of how Obama enacted similar laws, and also deported millions from the USA. Oh, the hypocrissy You don't know me to judge me....There's no attitude....Truth hurts and you always like to blame the previous administration for the wrong doing if the current one. You can think what you like about me. You are obviously blissfully AWARE of the saudi thing but keep turning a blind eye... Oh the ignorance.... Edited February 11, 2017 by kactus Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, kactus said: There's no attitude....truth hurts and you always like to blame the previous admnstration for the wrong doing if the current one. You can think what you like about me. You are obviously blissfully AWARE of the saudi thing but keep turning a blind eye... Oh the ignorance.... Let me re-steer you a little before you go into the drink. This administration is doing pretty much the same thing that the previous administration was doing, based on advice from the CIA. You do think information from the CIA is reliable and they are neutral here, right? Obama listened to the CIA, and so will Trump. Quote
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: Let me re-steer you a little before you go into the drink. This administration is doing pretty much the same thing that the previous administration was doing, based on advice from the CIA. You do think information from the CIA is reliable and they are neutral here, right? Obama listened to the CIA, and so will Trump. What is it with this hidden anger in yours!? Cool it down and stay civilised! The ex-head of the CIA at his interview with CNN confirmed that there are flaws in Trump's policies. Trump's divisive policies is not helping him with three weeks into the office.... Quote
Omni Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Let me re-steer you a little before you go into the drink. This administration is doing pretty much the same thing that the previous administration was doing, based on advice from the CIA. You do think information from the CIA is reliable and they are neutral here, right? Obama listened to the CIA, and so will Trump. If Trump was listening to the CIA he would have taken their advice and not tried to create this ban. Michael Hayden the former NSA/CIA director called it "an abomination" and it won't make the US or it's allies any safer. 1 Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, kactus said: What is it with this hidden anger in yours!? Cool it down and stay civilised! The ex-head of the CIA at his interview with CNN confirmed that there are flaws in Trump's policies. Trump's divisive policies is not helping him with three weeks into the office.... What anger? I am lmao at you guys in every post. I don't care what no ex-head says, he's a paid shill for all I know. The ex-head had no problem when Obama deported more than 2 1/2 million people. Now he has issues with Trump issuing a 90 day moratorium while they re-tool the laws. Once the new requirements are put in place, they would allow people to enter America again. Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Omni said: If Trump was listening to the CIA he would have taken their advice and not tried to create this ban. Michael Hayden the former NSA/CIA director called it "an abomination" and it won't make the US or it's allies any safer. Trump needs to listen to the current CIA director and his working advisors. They have the latest information, not some retired general. Quote
eyeball Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 4 hours ago, drummindiver said: Little full on crazy with the priest comment. You apologize for them to do you? 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Omni Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Trump needs to listen to the current CIA director and his working advisors. They have the latest information, not some retired general. Not some retired general, a man by the name of John Brennan. And then there are a few former secretary's of state. You know, people that have experience dealing with security issues. 1 Quote
drummindiver Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, eyeball said: You apologize for them to do you? Sorry, you make no sense. What are you trying to say? Quote
kactus Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 5 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Trump needs to listen to the current CIA director and his working advisors. They have the latest information, not some retired general. What you advocate and what Trump has done are two different things.... Quote
eyeball Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Delete. Edited February 12, 2017 by eyeball 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, drummindiver said: Sorry, you make no sense. What are you trying to say? I'm simply saying that inflicting a dictatorship on another people is a despicably evil thing to do. When a powerful nation does it to a weaker nation it's like an adult savagely assaulting a child. When a super-power that regards itself as a Shining Beacon of democracy, freedom and liberty does it, it's all the more despicable and evil. Now surely you realize how much worse it looks when a priest, a Shining Beacon of a very similar sort, savagely and repeatedly rapes children right? It really is quite simple, but I guess it's no wonder why you don't want to get your head around this. There's usually a lot of denial when the Shining Beacons people invest their faith in are found to be monsters as well. Edited February 12, 2017 by eyeball 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
kactus Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 6 hours ago, OftenWrong said: What anger? I am lmao at you guys in every post. I don't care what no ex-head says, he's a paid shill for all I know. The ex-head had no problem when Obama deported more than 2 1/2 million people. Now he has issues with Trump issuing a 90 day moratorium while they re-tool the laws. Once the new requirements are put in place, they would allow people to enter America again. The issue is Trump signing the EO holding a 90 day ban not on only on refugees but also on GREEN CARD HOLDERS and CITIZENS from those 7 countries. The federal judge that was ridiculed by Trump doesn't agree with it and that's why the decision to ban them was put into bed. But Trump for being a self obsessed and narcissistic person that he is cannot accept this and gets his tantrums to defy this decision....The last thing he said to the judges when he lost on ban decision was "See you in court"...ofcourse you are ginna see them in court! Where did you expect to see them!? Duh! What is the farce is the confusion that this has created amongst people for lack of clarity on his decision making ability and signing the EO without reading the contents...., Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm simply saying that inflicting a dictatorship on another people is a despicably evil thing to do. When a powerful nation does it to a weaker nation it's like an adult savagely assaulting a child. When a super-power that regards itself as a Shining Beacon of democracy, freedom and liberty does it, it's all the more despicable and evil. Now surely you realize how much worse it looks when a priest, a Shining Beacon of a very similar sort, savagely and repeatedly rapes children right? It really is quite simple, but I guess it's no wonder why you don't want to get your head around this. There's usually a lot of denial when the Shining Beacons people invest their faith in are found to be monsters as well. You'd have preferred Iran join the USSR. That's fine...it didn't though. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 12, 2017 Report Posted February 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm simply saying that inflicting a dictatorship on another people is a despicably evil thing to do. When a powerful nation does it to a weaker nation it's like an adult savagely assaulting a child. When a super-power that regards itself as a Shining Beacon of democracy, freedom and liberty does it, it's all the more despicable and evil. Now surely you realize how much worse it looks when a priest, a Shining Beacon of a very similar sort, savagely and repeatedly rapes children right? It really is quite simple, but I guess it's no wonder why you don't want to get your head around this. There's usually a lot of denial when the Shining Beacons people invest their faith in are found to be monsters as well. Well stated...The 1953 coup by CIA and british intelligence was to do with Dr Mossadegh wanting to nationalise the oil which didn't go well with brits and fabricated news has been spreading about him promoting communism.... Quote
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