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On 2/7/2017 at 3:06 PM, GostHacked said:

I appreciate and understand their struggle. But now it is against people who had really nothing to do with it in the first place (well unless you go back centuries) So because European nations screwed up, Palestinians have been paying the price for 60+ years.   Does that make sense to you?

Palestinians have been paying the price for having bad leadership, and for the obstinance, intransigence, and bigotry of the Muslim world around them. If they'd been willing to settle the war with Israel, sign peace treaties, and simply accept that Israel was here to stay things would have been far, far different. But they never did and never have.

Because... Jews.

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On 2/9/2017 at 1:40 PM, Argus said:

Palestinians have been paying the price for having bad leadership,

My understanding is that they elected a terrorist government - Hamas.  On purpose.

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Just now, Goddess said:

My understanding is that they elected a terrorist government - Hamas.  On purpose.

Agreed.

Bad track record on leaders alright.

It's the first leader (and creator) of the Cause that still takes the cake...fer sure, fer sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini

Arafat's uncle.

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28 minutes ago, kactus said:

Whether we like it or not Hammas has been elected by Palestinians...

 

 

Well...Arabs. Palestinians as a people are entirely manufactured in order to act as a lever against Israel. Created at the anti-Jewish Khartoum Conference of 1967. Arafat was born in Cairo making him an Egyptian. Unless you believe in Pan-Arabism...like the Mufti. Then all Arab Muslim states should form the Caliphate....ISIS and crew take that view these days.
 

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The whole effort to say 'you've no right to be here' is a big waste of time. Both sides are there. Let's give up on that because it is not useful. It won't change anything. 

A truism about bilateral negotiation - the stronger side always wants it, e.g. India in Kashmir and the US all over the place, as we may be about to find out again. 

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On 2/10/2017 at 6:32 PM, DogOnPorch said:

 

Well...Arabs. Palestinians as a people are entirely manufactured in order to act as a lever against Israel. Created at the anti-Jewish Khartoum Conference of 1967. Arafat was born in Cairo making him an Egyptian. Unless you believe in Pan-Arabism...like the Mufti. Then all Arab Muslim states should form the Caliphate....ISIS and crew take that view these days.
 

Canadians are made up people. 

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2 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Canadians are made up people. 

 

Palestinians were invented at an Anti-Jew conference in 1967 by people none-of-whom claimed to be these 'Palestinians'. But, they had just got their collective rear-ends handed to them by the IDF in the Six Day War.

Dust off the ol' Mufti...what? Retired?? Well howz 'bout his nephew, Yasser? He fits the suit.

Before the Six Day War, Judea (West Bank) was Jordanian (by conquest). The so-called Gaza Strip which came to be during the Suez Crisis, was Egyptian.

Yasser Arafat was an Egyptian...well, before his miraculous transformation.

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On 2/12/2017 at 6:10 PM, sharkman said:

It sounds like you are trying to agree that Palestinians are made up people.  

I agree on a lot of stuff Doggy puts out. But rarely will you ever get him to admit he actually agrees with me. It's like it is done on purpose. I could be wrong though.

But every people is made up, by them. So it's really not relevant to the conversation. Even the Jews are made up, Christians are made up, Muslims are made up, I guess the contention is WHO made them up.

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Man I love Israel. It's the only beacon of democaracy in the middle east. I can't undestand why are there so many jew haters. There are no palestinians. It's all made up! Screw the two state solution. There are so many arab lands. Give palis jordan and let israelis live in piss.

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