A black Santa Claus at the mall.

[Moonlight Graham]

If St. Nick was actually black then I guess hernanday just pwned this whole thread.

[H10]

7 minutes ago, taxme said:

 

Yup, typical nonsense coming from the liberal zionist controlled entertainment establishment that likes to continue on with it's anti-white blathering. Sad part about it all is that white people take it, and laugh along with it, while they are being made fools of.  Aw well, what else can one expect from wimps and politically correct white cowards, eh?  

 

PS: Maybe black Santa should be wearing a black afro style hair job and a dark beard to suit a black Santa. Look the part, eh?    

 

What is anti white about it.  The whole show is run by white people!

Maybe, but then again, alot of original people have straight grey hair too.

[taxme]

10 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

If the United States can have a "black" president, then it can have a "black" Santa too.

I am pretty sure that there was no black Santa around when you were a kid, eh?  But hey, we live in a wold of politically correct and multiculturalism nonsense now. The western world and it's culture, traditions and heritage need not be safe guarded anymore. Let them be assimilated into other cultures which appears to be happening today. But hey.    

[Moonlight Graham]

3 minutes ago, hernanday said:

See the above comment, Santa was portrayed as African before he was portrayed as white, and this goes back more than a millennia, not "centuries". 

Honestly, you don't have to say anymore other than show the pics.  Looks like Santa was a black man.  I bow to your evidence, you win the thread!  Black santas are not only politically correct but historically correct.  Coca Cola won't be pleased...

[Altai]

Santa Claus was a person living in today's Turkiye. His name was St. Nicholas who were distributing gifts to children of poor families.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

I am pretty sure that there was no black Santa around when you were a kid, eh?  But hey, we live in a wold of politically correct and multiculturalism nonsense now. The western world and it's culture, traditions and heritage need not be safe guarded anymore. Let them be assimilated into other cultures which appears to be happening today. But hey.    

 

Not true...we had "black" Santas when I was a kid.   No big deal....

[taxme]

1 minute ago, hernanday said:

What is anti white about it.  The whole show is run by white people!

Maybe, but then again, alot of original people have straight grey hair too.

The show is being run by a bunch of politically correct liberal white people who could careless about their culture and traditions. Hey, it is just a part of our traditions, so why change it just to appear politically correct because that is what it appears to be all about.  

[taxme]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Not true...we had "black" Santas when I was a kid.   No big deal....

Well I never saw one when I was a kid, and I still have not seen one yet. Where did you live? In Harlem?  It's a big deal too me. Leave things alone that do not need to be changed. Nobody asked for it. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, taxme said:

Well I never saw one when I was a kid, and I still have not seen one yet. Where did you live? In Harlem?  It's a big deal too me. Leave things alone that do not need to be changed. Nobody asked for it. 

 

Philadelphia....lots of "black" people available to be Santa.   Maybe "black" people were more scarce in your part of Canada.

We even had a "green" Grinch play Santa on a Christmas TV program, which airs each year in the United States.

[H10]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

The show is being run by a bunch of politically correct liberal white people who could careless about their culture and traditions. Hey, it is just a part of our traditions, so why change it just to appear politically correct because that is what it appears to be all about.  

Look at the pictures from the art museum on the first page I presented.  Santa was not just portrayed as non-white from political correctness, some of that art goes back to the year 1000 and earlier. Unless your argument is they had pc culture 1000 years ago in Russia and Turkey when I don't even think race existed in its modern form or any form of political correctness.

Isn't it the right wing always saying they don't see color and all that jazz.  Even if Santa were hypothetically white, why would it matter if you don't see color?

Frankly, I don't care what color Santa is portrayed. He was a real person who lived in Turkey, gave away a bunch of gifts and the mythology has become so exaggerated that he lived in the north pole, had flying reindeers and talking snow men, does the change of hue of his skin color really seem far fetched at this point.  In some countries in Europe (Austria and Bavaria), Santa is associated with evil demon named Krampus that kidnap and punish children.

[taxme]

1 hour ago, hernanday said:

You don't think kids have never asked why is Santa white?  You don't think those kids parents never had to explain that?  Who says the character of Santa Claus is Caucasian?

Well, I never asked my mother why Santa was white. He just was, and it needs to be left that way no matter how many here want to make fun of it. We need to hang on to some of our white traditions and heritages.   

[H10]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well, I never asked my mother why Santa was white. He just was, and it needs to be left that way no matter how many here want to make fun of it. We need to hang on to some of our white traditions and heritages.   

What exactly is a white tradition and heritage.  Are you trying to suggest whites are a monolithic block with unitary traditions and heritage?  And why not ask your mother why Santa was white?  Critical thinking means to question everything.

Edited December 6, 2016 by H10

[taxme]

4 minutes ago, hernanday said:

Look at the pictures from the art museum on the first page I presented.  Santa was not just portrayed as non-white from political correctness, some of that art goes back to the year 1000 and earlier. Unless your argument is they had pc culture 1000 years ago in Russia and Turkey when I don't even think race existed in its modern form or any form of political correctness.

Isn't it the right wing always saying they don't see color and all that jazz.  Even if Santa were hypothetically white, why would it matter if you don't see color?

Frankly, I don't care what color Santa is portrayed. He was a real person who lived in Turkey, gave away a bunch of gifts and the mythology has become so exaggerated that he lived in the north pole, had flying reindeers and talking snow men, does the change of hue of his skin color really seem far fetched at this point.  In some countries in Europe (Austria and Bavaria), Santa is associated with evil demon named Krampus that kidnap and punish children.

When it comes to Santa Claus today the color does matter.  

[H10]

Just now, taxme said:

When it comes to Santa Claus today the color does matter.  

Why?  Everything else about him is lies and made up anyways, Santa died more than 1000 years ago.  He lived in Turkey, which back then was extremely diverse, racially, ethnically, religiously, etc. The society he lived in would be probably more diverse than our own.  Most people do not see the world from such a heavily race based view as you.  Even if Santa was white and died yesterday, there would be people dressing up like him just because he is famous.

[taxme]

2 minutes ago, hernanday said:

What exactly is a white tradition and heritage.  Are you trying to suggest whites are a monolithic block with unitary traditions and heritage?  And why not ask your mother why Santa was white?  Critical thinking means to question everything.

What exactly is Asian or East Indian or black or Latino or Muslim or Native Indian traditions and heritages? They all have their myths, and religious beliefs like white people have.

So, what's your point?  My mother is deceased now, so I cannot ask here. I do question just about everything, and I am questioning as to why Santa Claus cannot be white only in the malls as he has been after all these years. Why some here have a problem with Santa being only white is beyond me. I guess there are more liberals here than I thought. 

[taxme]

22 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Philadelphia....lots of "black" people available to be Santa.   Maybe "black" people were more scarce in your part of Canada.

We even had a "green" Grinch play Santa on a Christmas TV program, which airs each year in the United States.

TV programs always like to make fun of white people and their traditions. Maybe they will have a Santa East Indian one day wearing his turban and a white beard. We are a multicultural country so let's have a different colored Santa every other year. That should delight all those white liberal marxists out there who hate the color of their skin. 

[H10]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

What exactly is Asian or East Indian or black or Latino or Muslim or Native Indian traditions and heritages? They all have their myths, and religious beliefs like white people have.

So, what's your point?  My mother is deceased now, so I cannot ask here. I do question just about everything, and I am questioning as to why Santa Claus cannot be white only in the malls as he has been after all these years. Why some here have a problem with Santa being only white is beyond me. I guess there are more liberals here than I thought. 

Go ask them.  you asserted there is a white tradition and heritage, and we need to hang on to it, so I am trying to figure out what it is.  It was white people who made the paintings in the ancient times of black santa, so I am trying to figure out what tradition are you trying to protect.  Are Russians, turks, Italians not white to you?  Do they not share your tradition and heritage?  The main conflict in Canada has been between Anglos and French (whites).  Why are you so hung up on Santa's race, what is the benefit and consequences?

I think most Canadians are liberals.  The conservative party could never crack more than mid 30s nationally.  As we were discussing in the other thread on populism in Canada, a conservative populist party is not viable in Canada.  The main supporters of Rob Ford (our closest thing to that) were mainly racial minorities (Indians, Carribeans) combined with poor whites and white working class in Toronto's north and west side.  Which is less than 40% white. His main "haters" and "opponents" were white wealthy Torontonians and Hipsters living in the downtown core backed by the elite financing and headed up by John Tory.

Canada, unlike many of its European counterparts and the USA, has the reverse issue in that the vast majority of poor Canadians are white as is the majority population.  Further, these poor whites are mainly rural and small towners and for whatever reason are not as independent minded as the American counterparts.  Ie. where a place like Saskatchewan and Manitoba is home of the socialist NDP and socialized medical care and Canadian socialism because these people cannot exist without big socialist government.  Its Southern neighbours like Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, and North dakota, are extremely anti-socialist and want none of those things.  Then you have the whole east coast which is very dependent on government handouts and saving it plus quebec.

I don't see how a Rob Ford style government, could ever work in a national scale or a provincial scale in Canada.  Mainly because there are not enough upper middle class minorities to support him or independent minded Canadians who want government to just get out of their way, cut their taxes and stop the gravy train.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, taxme said:

TV programs always like to make fun of white people and their traditions. Maybe they will have a Santa East Indian one day wearing his turban and a white beard. We are a multicultural country so let's have a different colored Santa every other year. That should delight all those white liberal marxists out there who hate the color of their skin. 

 

Santa Claus is a cultural concept/tradition, not a "race". 

[H10]

7 minutes ago, taxme said:

TV programs always like to make fun of white people and their traditions. Maybe they will have a Santa East Indian one day wearing his turban and a white beard. We are a multicultural country so let's have a different colored Santa every other year. That should delight all those white liberal marxists out there who hate the color of their skin. 

LOL, I laughed at this one, yes, I second your nomination, turban sanata

[taxme]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Santa Claus is a cultural concept/tradition, not a "race". 

As a part of that white culture and tradition here in Canada Santa Claus in the mall has always been a white guy. Too bad if you have a problem with that. Someone has to speak up about the constant attacks on our white Christian culture, heritage and traditions. Just because you don't care does not have to mean that others like myself should not. I am not just going to to sit back and allow the liberal/Marxists elite zionists continue on with their attempts to destroy the way we have done things for decades. Onward Christian soldier. 

[taxme]

14 minutes ago, hernanday said:

LOL, I laughed at this one, yes, I second your nomination, turban sanata

Maybe next year, eh?  

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

As a part of that white culture and tradition here in Canada Santa Claus in the mall has always been a white guy.

 

Modern shopping malls were developed in the U.S. along with automobile travel, not Canada.   So much for that original tradition.

[H10]

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

As a part of that white culture and tradition here in Canada Santa Claus in the mall has always been a white guy. Too bad if you have a problem with that. Someone has to speak up about the constant attacks on our white Christian culture, heritage and traditions. Just because you don't care does not have to mean that others like myself should not. I am not just going to to sit back and allow the liberal/Marxists elite zionists continue on with their attempts to destroy the way we have done things for decades. Onward Christian soldier. 

What of in the Indian culture, in their mall santa is always brown?  What of the Chinese?  What of the jews, in their malls there is always no santa?  Jews own alot of malls in Canada now, does that mean we get no Santa at all?

And what is white culture and traditions?  What if the santa dresses in white face or looks white from far away, how much blood quantum classifies a santa as legally white?  What if he is 75% white but doesn't look white, or what if he is 50% white and looks white?  Wasn't marxism and liberalism invented by white people, so how can you want to keep white culture but throw away white culture at the same time, doesnt wanting to get rid of liberalism and marxism (invented by whites) contradict your position of hanging on to white traditions and heritages?

[taxme]

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[taxme]

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Modern shopping malls were developed in the U.S. along with automobile travel, not Canada.   So much for that original tradition.

Well good for America. Whoop tee thrill. From my understanding, didn't Canada create basket ball that you Americans go nuts over?