Guest Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 hours ago, betsy said: Legislation galore. Good! Now we're talking. Let loose..... Let all these lib wet dream fantasies hang out for all to see. It'll make Trump movement jump quick to this side of the border. It's not lib so much as animal liker. It would be such a simple fix, and so sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, ?Impact said: No, you linked to an article from some right wing nutcase that loosely quoted a German publication, that quoted a Green party member (not a leftist, a environmentalist but you obviously don't know the difference). The original quote is nothing like what the right wing nutcase summarized, and even further from what you are claiming. Oh you guys.....what a pathetic utterance of denial! It quoted a Green Party member ..... Quote .......who happens to be Environmental Minister in Chancellor Schroeder's cabinet. It first won representation at the national level in 1983, and from 1998 to 2005 it formed a coalition government with the Social Democratic Party (SPD). http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/2005/08/german_minister.html Quote The SPD is a member of the Party of European Socialists and of the Socialist International, and became a founding member of the Progressive Alliance on 22 May 2013.[7][8][9] Established in 1863, the SPD is the oldest extant political party represented in the German Parliament and was one of the first Marxist-influenced parties in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany YOU, don't know the difference! Quote Green Party of Germany, German Die Grünen, in full Alliance ’90/The Greens or German Bündnis ’90/Die Grünen, German environmentalist political party. It first won representation at the national level in 1983, and from 1998 to 2005 it formed a coalition government with the Social Democratic Party (SPD). https://www.britannica.com/topic/Green-Party-of-Germany Nothing new with you. You don't understand what you read. Edited December 6, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 On 12/4/2016 at 4:42 AM, betsy said: Giving up our rights and freedom. Do you think there should be cat and dog meat available in butcher shops? After all, that's freedom of protein... Here in Mongolia, we eat horse. In Canada, horse is illegal. Mongolia is much more freedom than Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 16 minutes ago, The_Squid said: In Canada, horse is illegal. I'm not certain, but I do believe it's legal in Québec. It's eaten there for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Canada produces a lot of horse meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) 46 minutes ago, cybercoma said: I'm not certain, but I do believe it's legal in Québec. It's eaten there for sure. Facts are unimportant in this discussion. What about dog and cat meat? Why is Canada not freedom??? Edited December 6, 2016 by The_Squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 hour ago, The_Squid said: Here in Mongolia, we eat horse. In Canada, horse is illegal. Mongolia is much more freedom than Canada. Except of course your premise is based on a complete fabrication. I ate horse meat a few weeks ago, and was about pick up some at the store the other day but decided on chicken instead. If you are going to make such absurd statements, you should at least check your facts before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, ?Impact said: Except of course your premise is based on a complete fabrication. I ate horse meat a few weeks ago, and was about pick up some at the store the other day but decided on chicken instead. If you are going to make such absurd statements, you should at least check your facts before posting. If you change horse to dog, my statement is 100% correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, The_Squid said: Do you think there should be cat and dog meat available in butcher shops? After all, that's freedom of protein... Here in Mongolia, we eat horse. In Canada, horse is illegal. Mongolia is much more freedom than Canada. Eating horse is not illegal in Canada. Misleading consumers about it, is what's illegal. Quote The CFIA is aware that in 2013, horse meat was discovered in some otherwise labelled meat products in Europe. However, Canadian consumers should note two important facts. First, Canada does not currently permit beef imports from Europe. Second, in Canada, the potential use of horse meat as a substitute for beef would be unlikely. There are only four federally registered establishments that perform horse slaughter, and most of this meat is exported. In addition, the economic situation in Canada is different from Europe given that fresh beef here costs less than horse meat. http://www.cmc-cvc.com/sites/default/files/files/Horse Meat Production in Canada Feb 2013.pdf In some cultures, they eat cats and dogs. If they see cats and dogs the same way we see chickens and cows.....is there anything wrong with that? It depends on the culture why dog and cat meat are not in butcher shops in Canada. I hardly see game meat sold, either. It depends on what's in demand. If there's a demand, some entrepreneur will supply it. If you're in business......why would you sell something that won't sell? Edited December 6, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 52 minutes ago, betsy said: In some cultures, they eat cats and dogs. If they see cats and dogs the same way we see chickens and cows.....is there anything wrong with that? It depends on the culture why dog and cat meat are not in butcher shops in Canada. I hardly see game meat sold, either. It depends on what's in demand. If there's a demand, some entrepreneur will supply it. If you're in business......why would you sell something that won't sell? It is illegal o sell dog meat in Canada. Socialists are telling you what to eat. Canada is not free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 hour ago, The_Squid said: If you change horse to dog, my statement is 100% correct. No, again another falsification. There are no regulations against it in any province that I am aware of. Could you cite the laws you are using? Meat processing is a provincial responsibility, and the slaughterhouses need to be licensed and inspected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 hour ago, The_Squid said: Facts are unimportant in this discussion. What about dog and cat meat? Why is Canada not freedom??? I don't know. I've seen a lot of people on this forum eat crow though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The_Squid said: It is illegal o sell dog meat in Canada. Socialists are telling you what to eat. Canada is not free. Guinea pigs (cuy) were raised as food and are still barbecued in South America today. Socialists will let you eat guinea pigs, but not the freedom-hating Canadian government. Edited December 6, 2016 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebound Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 .. When eating meat becomes illegal.... what are all those animal lovers going to feed their dogs and cats? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebound Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 On 12/6/2016 at 4:59 PM, The_Squid said: It is illegal o sell dog meat in Canada. Socialists are telling you what to eat. Canada is not free. No it is NOT illegal to sell dog meat in Canada for food. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/24/dog-meat-not-explicitly-illegal-in-canada.html But it has to be inspected. The reason horses, etc. are not widely available for food.... has to do with the drugs in them, and not illegality per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) On 12/6/2016 at 4:59 PM, The_Squid said: It is illegal o sell dog meat in Canada. Socialists are telling you what to eat. Canada is not free. You're dead wrong again! Dog meat legal, health inspector says http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/dog-meat-legal-health-inspector-says-1.408407 It's all about supply and demand. If there is a demand for dog meat, and entrepreneurs find that there is money to be made in selling dog meat, I see no reason why dog meat won't eventually be treated like horse meat or chicken! They'll just have to go through proper inspection. Bottomline: it's all about the market. If there are enough consumers to a product to make it worthwhile to sell....they'll sell it! Edited December 8, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 On 12/6/2016 at 3:38 PM, The_Squid said: Facts are unimportant in this discussion. In other words.....you don't want it to be shown that all you have are bs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Icebound said: No it is NOT illegal to sell dog meat in Canada for food. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/24/dog-meat-not-explicitly-illegal-in-canada.html But it has to be inspected. The reason horses, etc. are not widely available for food.... has to do with the drugs in them, and not illegality per se. The dogs have to be raised as food animals, not as pets. If I want to eat the neighbour's dog, who is the government to say no? Canada... land of the not free. Mongolia.... land of the free to eat whatever meat you can find. Edited December 8, 2016 by The_Squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 24 minutes ago, The_Squid said: The dogs have to be raised as food animals, not as pets. If I want to eat the neighbour's dog, who is the government to say no? Canada... land of the not free. Mongolia.... land of the free to eat whatever meat you can find. If'n y'all don't mind eatin' lead, aussi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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