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Was the US election hacked?


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20 minutes ago, sharkman said:

  It's a scam.

But Trump himself said that there was rampant fraud. Shouldn't that at least be checked out to ensure the results weren't tampered with? Wouldn't his presidency be less legitimate if they just ignored his allegations that there was fraud? 

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21 hours ago, sharkman said:

Then the conspiracy theorists ...

It's funny that you defend Trump by denouncing conspiracy theorists when Trump is the biggest conspiracy theorist of them all. It must be difficult to try to claim the election results were perfectly legitimate when he himself is spreading conspiracy theories that he got from alt-right websites that suggest the results have been tampered with.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-millions-illegal-aliens-voted-greg-phillips-three-million-tweet-infowars-alex-jones-a7443006.html

The next few weeks will be hilarious. I would say four years, but there's no way he will last that long.

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11 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Well, I mean something new.  Like in now that the Dems real strategy seems to be to simply draw out the results after they lectured Trump on accepting the results.  

The Democrats haven't challenged the election results. They've simply joined an effort to examine the votes in a few states to ensure there was no hacking done by Trump's Russian backers. Hell, it's Trump who is claiming there was widespread voter fraud.

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It seems no one thinks the recounts being considered will in any way effect the overall outcome, (which is of course sad) but it was Trump himself who kept on blathering about "it's rigged". So, let them go ahead and see if they can find rigging. I would say check for oligarch connections. 

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Well, now the Dems are claiming there could be voter fraud, even though there is absolutely no evidence of a Russian hack and the White House has apparently said so.  It simply looks like an attempt to force the Congress and Senate to vote in Trump instead of the electoral college.  Which is just more politicking from the left.

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1 minute ago, sharkman said:

Well, now the Dems are claiming there could be voter fraud, even though there is absolutely no evidence of a Russian hack and the White House has apparently said so.

Think you may have the cart before the horse. You usually examine the evidence before announcing the verdict don't ya?

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Basically, it's like this:

If you think you're going to win, the election is not rigged.  If you think you're going to lose, it might well be rigged.

If you win, all previous opinions are no longer valid, and it wasn't rigged.  If you lose, all previous opinions are no longer valid, and it might well have been rigged.

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12 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Well, now the Dems are claiming there could be voter fraud, even though there is absolutely no evidence of a Russian hack and the White House has apparently said so.  

Cite? Trump, not the Dems and not "the Left", is the only one claiming there absolutely was voter fraud. Do you think people should take that seriously and look into it?

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After the election, Trump lost the popular vote by over 1.5 million and he is claiming that is because of illegal aliens voting.

After the election, Clinton lost the 3 states in question by about 150,000, and is supporting a recount.

 

If anyone is claiming voter fraud it is Trump, by at least a factor of 10.

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23 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

We already know there was possible voter fraud based on an arrest in NY.  

From what I understand, she is in trouble for voting in the primaries and not the general election. The only instance of voter fraud in the general election is the lady who tried to vote twice for Trump. 

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1 hour ago, ?Impact said:

After the election, Trump lost the popular vote by over 1.5 million and he is claiming that is because of illegal aliens voting.

After the election, Clinton lost the 3 states in question by about 150,000, and is supporting a recount.

 

If anyone is claiming voter fraud it is Trump, by at least a factor of 10.

The thing is, there is no basis for a recount.

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32 minutes ago, sharkman said:

The thing is, there is no basis for a recount.

Trump said unequivocally that there have been shenanigans. That should be investigated to ensure the results were correct. Just because you don't think there's any credibility to what Trump says doesn't mean people shouldn't take what the president-elect says seriously.

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1 hour ago, ?Impact said:

From what I understand, she is in trouble for voting in the primaries and not the general election. The only instance of voter fraud in the general election is the lady who tried to vote twice for Trump. 

 

I don't care when she voted or who she voted for.....the only thing worse than voter fraud is voter fraud by an illegal alien.

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13 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Which would have happened 3 weeks ago if it were an issue.  

Trump tweeted only yesterday that there was rampant voter fraud in this election. Don't you think they should investigate his accusations before the electoral college declares the winner, just to be sure? Why should they ignore what he says? He's the president-elect. Don't you have any faith that what he says might, on the off chance, be true?

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