BubberMiley Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 20 minutes ago, sharkman said: It's a scam. But Trump himself said that there was rampant fraud. Shouldn't that at least be checked out to ensure the results weren't tampered with? Wouldn't his presidency be less legitimate if they just ignored his allegations that there was fraud? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 21 hours ago, sharkman said: Then the conspiracy theorists ... It's funny that you defend Trump by denouncing conspiracy theorists when Trump is the biggest conspiracy theorist of them all. It must be difficult to try to claim the election results were perfectly legitimate when he himself is spreading conspiracy theories that he got from alt-right websites that suggest the results have been tampered with. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-millions-illegal-aliens-voted-greg-phillips-three-million-tweet-infowars-alex-jones-a7443006.html The next few weeks will be hilarious. I would say four years, but there's no way he will last that long. Edited November 28, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
sharkman Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Anybody besides Bubber have any thoughts? Bubber, you're still on ignore, why change a good thing? Edited November 28, 2016 by sharkman Quote
msj Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, sharkman said: Anybody besides Bubber have any thoughts? Sure, Bubber should heed the advice: don't argue with a ... Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
sharkman Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Well, I mean something new. Like in now that the Dems real strategy seems to be to simply draw out the results after they lectured Trump on accepting the results. Quote
Argus Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Posted November 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, sharkman said: Well, I mean something new. Like in now that the Dems real strategy seems to be to simply draw out the results after they lectured Trump on accepting the results. The Democrats haven't challenged the election results. They've simply joined an effort to examine the votes in a few states to ensure there was no hacking done by Trump's Russian backers. Hell, it's Trump who is claiming there was widespread voter fraud. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Omni Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 It seems no one thinks the recounts being considered will in any way effect the overall outcome, (which is of course sad) but it was Trump himself who kept on blathering about "it's rigged". So, let them go ahead and see if they can find rigging. I would say check for oligarch connections. Quote
Smallc Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Trump said the election was rigged. Might as well find out for sure. Quote
sharkman Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Well, now the Dems are claiming there could be voter fraud, even though there is absolutely no evidence of a Russian hack and the White House has apparently said so. It simply looks like an attempt to force the Congress and Senate to vote in Trump instead of the electoral college. Which is just more politicking from the left. Edited November 28, 2016 by sharkman Quote
Omni Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 1 minute ago, sharkman said: Well, now the Dems are claiming there could be voter fraud, even though there is absolutely no evidence of a Russian hack and the White House has apparently said so. Think you may have the cart before the horse. You usually examine the evidence before announcing the verdict don't ya? Quote
Guest Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Basically, it's like this: If you think you're going to win, the election is not rigged. If you think you're going to lose, it might well be rigged. If you win, all previous opinions are no longer valid, and it wasn't rigged. If you lose, all previous opinions are no longer valid, and it might well have been rigged. Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, sharkman said: Well, now the Dems are claiming there could be voter fraud, even though there is absolutely no evidence of a Russian hack and the White House has apparently said so. Cite? Trump, not the Dems and not "the Left", is the only one claiming there absolutely was voter fraud. Do you think people should take that seriously and look into it? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
?Impact Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 After the election, Trump lost the popular vote by over 1.5 million and he is claiming that is because of illegal aliens voting. After the election, Clinton lost the 3 states in question by about 150,000, and is supporting a recount. If anyone is claiming voter fraud it is Trump, by at least a factor of 10. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, ?Impact said: If anyone is claiming voter fraud it is Trump, by at least a factor of 10. We already know there was possible voter fraud based on an arrest in NY. Plus she was an illegal alien from Canada. That's makes Trump right on two issues. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 23 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: We already know there was possible voter fraud based on an arrest in NY. From what I understand, she is in trouble for voting in the primaries and not the general election. The only instance of voter fraud in the general election is the lady who tried to vote twice for Trump. Quote
sharkman Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, ?Impact said: After the election, Trump lost the popular vote by over 1.5 million and he is claiming that is because of illegal aliens voting. After the election, Clinton lost the 3 states in question by about 150,000, and is supporting a recount. If anyone is claiming voter fraud it is Trump, by at least a factor of 10. The thing is, there is no basis for a recount. Quote
Omni Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, sharkman said: The thing is, there is no basis for a recount. For example, when you have more votes recorded than there are registered voters, you have a clear basis for a recount. Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sharkman said: The thing is, there is no basis for a recount. Trump said unequivocally that there have been shenanigans. That should be investigated to ensure the results were correct. Just because you don't think there's any credibility to what Trump says doesn't mean people shouldn't take what the president-elect says seriously. Edited November 28, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
GostHacked Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Could be that Clinton is looking to hid some of her own fraud. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, ?Impact said: From what I understand, she is in trouble for voting in the primaries and not the general election. The only instance of voter fraud in the general election is the lady who tried to vote twice for Trump. I don't care when she voted or who she voted for.....the only thing worse than voter fraud is voter fraud by an illegal alien. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
sharkman Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 39 minutes ago, Omni said: For example, when you have more votes recorded than there are registered voters, you have a clear basis for a recount. Which would have happened 3 weeks ago if it were an issue. Quote
Omni Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, sharkman said: Which would have happened 3 weeks ago if it were an issue. The issue hadn't had time to show up 3 weeks ago. Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, sharkman said: Which would have happened 3 weeks ago if it were an issue. Trump tweeted only yesterday that there was rampant voter fraud in this election. Don't you think they should investigate his accusations before the electoral college declares the winner, just to be sure? Why should they ignore what he says? He's the president-elect. Don't you have any faith that what he says might, on the off chance, be true? Edited November 28, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Omni Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Trump continues to put his foot in his mouth with his twitter account saying he would have won the popular vote if millions hadn't voted illegally. Tsk, tsk, it gets more hilarious by the day. Quote
sharkman Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Omni said: The issue hadn't had time to show up 3 weeks ago. Is that right? Listen, I got this bridge I'd like to sell you, chum... Quote
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