bush_cheney2004 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 More high drama at the U.S. border for Canadians who admit to smoking cannabis. U.S. border agents can deny entry for anything, so why is this big news ? The "barred for life part" ? A CBC analyst opines that being barred entry for life reduces employee value: If you are not an American, and a U.S. customs and Border Patrol Service agent learns you have ever admitted taking so much as a single puff of marijuana, that agent can bar you from travelling to the United States for life, potentially ruining holidays, and greatly reducing your value as an employee in vast sectors of the Canadian economy. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marijuana-border-customs-answers-1.3755979 Do job applications in Canada query for lifetime bans on entering the United States ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Never heard of it but I wouldn't be surprised if some do. How long will it be until we're faced with things like ideological background checks? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Michael Hardner Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Do job applications in Canada query for lifetime bans on entering the United States ? They do ask if you are willing and able to travel, and whether you are legally allowed to travel/work in the US. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Posted September 11, 2016 That's pathetic if border crossing applies to employment in "vast sectors of the Canadian economy". Job travel is one thing, but to foreign countries ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Queenmandy85 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 An easy way around this is to never use drugs. If this reduces the employment value of some one who has used pot, it makes me more valuable. I see it as a win. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Posted September 11, 2016 An easy way around this is to never use drugs. If this reduces the employment value of some one who has used pot, it makes me more valuable. I see it as a win. I agree, but border bans can apply for many other things. I can't believe that employment in "vast sectors of the Canadian economy" is dependent on being able to go to Disneyland. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 An easy way around this is to never use drugs. If this reduces the employment value of some one who has used pot, it makes me more valuable. I see it as a win. An even easier way is to just lie. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Posted September 11, 2016 An even easier way is to just lie. Not after bragging about it on social media. That's why it is called "dope". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Lots of jobs require international travel. If you are in the high-tech sector, or a management position then US travel is almost to be expected. If you are applying to flip burgers, then no it is not. Quote
TimG Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Do job applications in Canada query for lifetime bans on entering the United States ?Not so much job applications but your ability to advance in your career will be severely limited if you can't visit the US for customer meetings, trade conferences and similar kinds of events. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Posted September 11, 2016 Not so much job applications but your ability to advance in your career will be severely limited if you can't visit the US for customer meetings, trade conferences and similar kinds of events. Seriously ? Career advancement for my peers and I was never dependent on travel across the Canadian border. Guess I just can't relate to this fundamental expectation and requirement. The dope thing is secondary. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) Not after bragging about it on social media. That's why it is called "dope". Is it even possible to get a job without an FB page these days? Apparently some employers insist on seeing it before hiring you. What if you don't have one, what kind of alarms does that raise? Edited September 11, 2016 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Posted September 11, 2016 Is it even possible to get a job without an FB page these days? Apparently some employers insist on seeing it before hiring you. Yes....FB is not required to get a job. Is that required in Canada too ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Did that promotion to senior patty chef ever come through? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Posted September 11, 2016 Did that promotion to senior patty chef ever come through? Yes...we just used our passports, not dope. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Yes....FB is not required to get a job. Is that required in Canada too ?I wouldn't be surprised if there are employers who wouldn't hire someone they couldn't snoop on. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Derek 2.0 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) More high drama at the U.S. border for Canadians who admit to smoking cannabis. U.S. border agents can deny entry for anything, so why is this big news ? My question, if border agents are able to ban a Canadian from entry for life (absent applying for and receiving an exemption from the US Government) if they admit to prior Pot use.........how did our Prime Minister gain entry for his Washington DC photo-op? Did he receive said exemption, and if so, did Canadian taxpayers pay for it? Edited September 12, 2016 by Derek 2.0 Quote
Bonam Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 My question, if border agents are able to ban a Canadian from entry for life (absent applying for and receiving an exemption from the US Government) if they admit to prior Pot use.........how did our Prime Minister gain entry for his Washington DC photo-op? Did he receive said exemption, and if so, did Canadian taxpayers pay for it? Pretty sure there's already a regime in place exempting heads of state/government and high level diplomats from a lot of entry requirements all around the world. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Posted September 12, 2016 My question, if border agents are able to ban a Canadian from entry for life (absent applying for and receiving an exemption from the US Government) if they admit to prior Pot use.........how did our Prime Minister gain entry for his Washington DC photo-op? Did he receive said exemption, and if so, did Canadian taxpayers pay for it? Diplomatic immunity. John Lennon was deported too, but he insisted on crossing the border anyway, and we know how that story ended. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 Pretty sure there's already a regime in place exempting heads of state/government and high level diplomats from a lot of entry requirements all around the world. Is there though? I know for instance there is diplomatic leeway for entering the United States if one is traveling to New York to go to the UN...likewise a member (and their family) of an embassy.........but, and I could be wrong, I doubt there is some accord that allows recreational drug use related laws to be cast aside for those seeking entry into the United States....... Clearly something was waived to allow Trudeau entry, I just want to know what and if we payed for it......... Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 Diplomatic immunity. John Lennon was deported too, but he insisted on crossing the border anyway, and we know how that story ended. Right, but where in the laws encompassing immunity does prior admitted drug use factor in? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Posted September 12, 2016 ...Clearly something was waived to allow Trudeau entry, I just want to know what and if we payed for it......... These guys agree with you.... http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/09/04/trudeau-pot-border_n_3867238.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 These guys agree with you.... http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/09/04/trudeau-pot-border_n_3867238.html Sure, and that goes back to diplomatic immunity........it doesn't allow someone to forgo US law, personal inviolability is but convention.......and there is no expectation that any level of US law enforcement won't uphold the law........ergo, Joe-Blow Canadian that admits to being a reefer addict can't enter the United States because he broke Federal US laws, but Trudeau can....... Like I mused, something was waived for Trudeau, versus the guy that wanted to go see Mickey with his kid.....I just want to know what was waived and the mechanism that allowed Trudeau entry. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Posted September 12, 2016 ....Like I mused, something was waived for Trudeau, versus the guy that wanted to go see Mickey with his kid.....I just want to know what was waived and the mechanism that allowed Trudeau entry. I don't think Trudeau had to cross the border in the conventional way. He was invited to a state dinner by his American host. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 I don't think Trudeau had to cross the border in the conventional way. He was invited to a state dinner by his American host. That is obvious, I'm not denying he was allowed to enter, I want to know why Trudeau can (i.e the law that allows US Federal law to be waived) but a regular Canadian can't....... If Trudeau was invited, was he also granted a written waiver from the State Department.....the same waiver that any other Canadian can pay for and apply to receive??? Quote
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