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You don't know that through. We haven't seen his tax returns. For all we know he could be funding ISIS.

Just think.....

Would anyone supporting an infamous pedophile group (who obviously has political ambition), be claiming that for all the world to see?

If it's true, what makes you think that info will be in his tax returns?

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If it's true, what makes you think that info will be in his tax returns?

Obviously because he refuses to release them. What is he hiding? Trump supporters are notoriously willing to overlook some terrible transgressions, but he still thinks the information in his tax returns is beyond the pale. He has already been associated with pedophiles and even had a pedophile standing behind him during a speech where he said politicians are well aware of who is standing behind them during their speeches. I think if he won't release the returns in the future, we surely know why.
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Never heard of the NAMBLA, does Jeffrey Epstein have anything to do with it? Perhaps case 1:16-cv-04642 filed in the United States District Court, Southern District of New York might reveal something.

This seems entirely appropriate to bring up in this particular thread.

Anything that has to do with the abuse and with child exploitation needs to be brought up and out into the open. There are many of these sick and perverted groups out there that are trying to get pedophilia made legal. If it does ever happen it will be open season on all our children and grandchildren. I don't believe that nature or God or whomever intended that 60 year old men or women to have sex with 6 year old boys or girls. 50 years ago these types of sickos would be on the run and hiding. Now they are allowed to come out of their closets and are being allowed to promote this disgusting way of life. The backers and pushers of this Sodom and Gomorrah lifestyle need to be shut down now. Works for me.

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Did I say the photo indicates she's in poor health?

Anyway.....there are persisting rumors about her health.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/17/matt-drudge-slams-media-cover-up-of-hillary-clinto/

http://nypost.com/2014/06/23/hillarys-health-issues-are-much-worse-than-she-lets-on-book/

http://www.capitalbay.news/news/289562-hillary-clinton-rushed-to-hospital-with-blood-clot-three-weeks-after-suffering-concussion.html

She is almost 70 years old. She is overweight! Also depending on your genes, some folks start seriously declining

at that age.

Hillary and hubby have made close to 240 million dollars in speaking fees since they left the White house. Trump worked for his money, the Clinton's appeared to have not. So, for some to knock Trump because he is a billionaire probably indicates that they are just plain jealous or are trying to imply that Trump may have got his money from shady deals with the mob. It's almost certain that the Clinton's got their money from dealing with the establishment mob who want her as President.

But besides all of that, Hillary is in poor health and should not become President. She will probably in time become to sick to do her job. Won't that be sad for America. :D

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Obviously because he refuses to release them. What is he hiding? Trump supporters are notoriously willing to overlook some terrible transgressions, but he still thinks the information in his tax returns is beyond the pale. He has already been associated with pedophiles and even had a pedophile standing behind him during a speech where he said politicians are well aware of who is standing behind them during their speeches. I think if he won't release the returns in the future, we surely know why.

Can you show this photo. Just because someone who has and does dealings with a pedophile does not mean that they knew at the time that the person was a pedophile. I am pretty sure that you may have had dealings with a pedophile and were not aware of it. Unless they tell you that they are how would you know? If Trump knew that some guy was a pedophile, I don't think that he would be all that thrilled to want to deal with him. Might be bad for business. And how do you know that the man standing behind Trump is a pedophile? And how would Trump know? Did Trump acknowledge him in anyway and say to him how is the kiddie porno business going? This may just be another Democratic liberal elite media lie being spread around again about Trump. Who knows, maybe the Clinton's are involved with pedophiles and deal with them in some way also. Of course if this were the case, we would never hear anything about it and it all would be covered up by the main scream corporate elite media to protect their girl.

Hey, you never know. :D

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Obviously because he refuses to release them. What is he hiding? Trump supporters are notoriously willing to overlook some terrible transgressions,

As are/do many Hillary Clinton "supporters".

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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You don't know that through. We haven't seen his tax returns. For all we know he could be funding ISIS.

Why or what is so important about seeing Trump's tax returns? I suspect that the lame duck media would hope to have a field day if they could ever got their grubby little hands on his returns. No matter what was in there everything would be open for abuse as we all should know by now that the media will take everything in it and blow it all out of proportions and make up their own stories and lies to make Trump look bad ad hell.

On this one, I am with Trump and him not wanting to open his tax returns. To hell with the pro-Democratic liberal establishment party lying media.

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....On this one, I am with Trump and him not wanting to open his tax returns. To hell with the pro-Democratic liberal establishment party lying media.

I agree...let Trump win or lose the election on his terms, not "crooked" Hillary's.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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I agree...let Trump win or lose the election on his terms, not "crooked" Hillary's.

Other than Gearld Ford, all Presidential candidates (Republican & Democrat) have released their tax returns since the 1970's. Ford released a financial summary. This is not Hillary's terms, it is Trump yet again thinking he is special and can get away with anything.

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Other than Gearld Ford, all Presidential candidates (Republican & Democrat) have released their tax returns since the 1970's. Ford released a financial summary. This is not Hillary's terms, it is Trump yet again thinking he is special and can get away with anything.

They are Trump's terms....not crooked Hillary's....not the 1970's...and certainly not gazers from another country. All candidates since the 1970's have not released their tax returns. It is private information that can be disclosed voluntarily. Obama had to pressure Clinton to do so in 2008.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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All candidates since the 1970's have not released their tax returns.

I said all Presidential candidates (Republican and Democrat) except Ford. No we haven't seen all candidates from the fringe, nor all hopefuls, but once the major parties selected a candidate then yes we did see their returns. In 2016, we have returns from Bush, Clinton, Cruz, Rubio, Florina, Kashich, and Sanders - but not Trump.

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I said all Presidential candidates (Republican and Democrat) except Ford. No we haven't seen all candidates from the fringe, nor all hopefuls, but once the major parties selected a candidate then yes we did see their returns. In 2016, we have returns from Bush, Clinton, Cruz, Rubio, Florina, Kashich, and Sanders - but not Trump.

Then please be more precise about such matters....if you meant to say only the nominated U.S. presidential candidates for the Republican and Democrat parties. There are many other candidates and "hopefuls" who have not done so.

Of the thirty-four candidates who ran during that time period, only seven—Jerry Brown, Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee, Steve Forbes, Rudy Giuliani, Richard Lugar, and Ralph Nader—have refused to release their tax returns altogether

http://mentalfloss.com/article/29757/do-presidential-candidates-always-release-their-tax-returns-also-photo-mitt-romney

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Then please be more precise about such matters

I thought I was being very precise, I named the major parties and said 'Presidential candidate'. Those who don't get the party nomination are not Presidential candidates.

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I thought I was being very precise, I named the major parties and said 'Presidential candidate'. Those who don't get the party nomination are not Presidential candidates.

That's not true.....there are many ways to become U.S. president.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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I agree...let Trump win or lose the election on his terms, not "crooked" Hillary's.

May the best man for the job win. :D

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I do not see where Hillarys health is an issue. If Hillarys VP was running for President instead, he would be 30 points up on Trump.

Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.

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That's not true.....there are many ways to become U.S. president.

Name one elected US president who wasn't the Presidential candidate from either of the two major parties in the past 150 years?

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Did I say the photo indicates she's in poor health?

Anyway.....there are persisting rumors about her health.

Drudge Report creator Matt Drudge slammed what he called a “media cover-up” of Hillary Clinton’s “flaring hypothyroidism”

That is some first glass bunk right there.

Your thyroid is a gland in your neck that produces hormones regulating your metabolism. A hypoactive thyroid means that the glad is producing less than it needs to. Treatment involves taking a simple pill once a day containing Synthroid. Testing for it is simple and treatment pretty much always effective. (Its also a very common disease.)

The term "flaring hyothyroidism" probably doesn't know what they're talking about... what's going to "flair up"? The gland already isn't producing the hormone.. Its not like its going to take hormones OUT of the body. Anyone who claims there is a risk of 'flaring hypothyroidism" can probably be ignored.

I've been treated for a hypoactive thyroid for over a decade. It has not affected my health or lifestyle in any way.

She is almost 70 years old. She is overweight! Also depending on your genes, some folks start seriously declining

at that age.

Yes she is almost 70. And trump is older than her. Many candidates for the presidency ARE fairly old.
But, women do tend to live longer than men. AND, when a person gets older, their expected life span actually increases.

She is almost 70 years old. She is overweight! Also depending on your genes, some folks start seriously declining

at that age.

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He has already been associated with pedophiles and even had a pedophile standing behind him during a speech where he said politicians are well aware of who is standing behind them during their speeches.

Can you show this photo.

From: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/mark-foley-donald-trump-226896

Disgraced former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley — accused in 2006 of making sexual advances toward congressional pages — was sitting behind Trump the entire time Wednesday in Sunrise, near Fort Lauderdale.

There is also a picture at that link.

Just because someone who has and does dealings with a pedophile does not mean that they knew at the time that the person was a pedophile.

The person in question (Mark Foley) was very well known and his problems were well publicized.

Of course, its possible that Trump had no idea who this guy is... But the problem is, Trump was also blaming Hillary for having people at her campaign stops that she shouldn't have. So, either Trump is a giant hypocrite. or he knows who Foley is and approves of what he did.

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Did I say the photo indicates she's in poor health?

Anyway.....there are persisting rumors about her health.

And there are persisting rumors about Trump's sanity. Shall we take any of these rumors seriously?

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Why or what is so important about seeing Trump's tax returns?

What, apart from us wanting to see if he really donated to NAMBLA? (I don't believe it myself, but people are talking about it. Smart people. The best people.)

Well, in general we want to see any Candidate's tax returns to see if they have a conflict of interest that voters should be worried about. In Trump's case, that could involve financial dealings with Russian politicians and oligarchs. (Given the fact that American banks seem to want to avoid dealing with Trump now, he needs to get his funding somewhere. If he's going to be dealing with the Russians as president, it makes sense to know whether he is in current financial debt to any of them.)

And in Trump's case, we want to see his tax returns to see what his real wealth is. He has claimed he is a billionaire, and he has built his reputation and campaign strategy on his business savvy. But if his tax returns show that he has no more money than what he inherited from his dad, that would indicate his business abilities aren't as good as what he is letting on.

Trump worked for his money

Actually, Trump inherited a substantial amount of money from his family. He also benefited from loans from his dad, one of his earliest jobs, AND he was able to secure credit based on his family name.

Now, his wealth has grown since then, but in general it has grown less than the wealth of many other billionaires. More importantly, it has grown slower than the stock market. For all his wheeling and dealing, he would have been better off to take the money he had in the 1980s and stick it in the stock market. All his "work' has given him less money than he would have otherwise.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vs-other-billionaires-2015-8

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Why or what is so important about seeing Trump's tax returns? I suspect that the lame duck media would hope to have a field day if they could ever got their grubby little hands on his returns. No matter what was in there everything would be open for abuse as we all should know by now that the media will take everything in it and blow it all out of proportions and make up their own stories and lies to make Trump look bad ad hell.

On this one, I am with Trump and him not wanting to open his tax returns. To hell with the pro-Democratic liberal establishment party lying media.

Why don't you ask what's so important about tax returns to every GOP nominee for the last 40 some odd years?

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