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[jacee]

Some follow GOD's rules against homosexuality, others make up their own.

'God' didn't make any rules.

Men wrote those rules.

Men who claimed to speak for God.

Today we would call those men 'crazy' to think they speak for 'God'.

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[GostHacked]

Read what I was replying to! That's the sensible thing to do.

That is part of the problem Betsy, your arguments don't make sense to normal people.

[Bryan]

'God' didn't make any rules.

He made plenty of them.

[WestCoastRunner]

Some follow GOD's rules against homosexuality, others make up their own.

Since Betsy won't answer I'll ask you Bryan. How does the LGBT community negatively affect society? I am assuming that your God ruled it a sin because.....

[Moonlight Graham]

You don't think it could be that they were just experimenting on sexuality? That they're not really bisexual? That it's just part of an adventurous stage, especially at an early age when they're just becoming aware of sexuality?

When you put it that way, yes maybe sure it could be the case. It would all depend if they're sexually attracted and aroused by the same-sex person. People can experiment, but not be aroused by the experience, so in that case I wouldn't say they're lesbian/bisexual or have those tendencies.

[Moonlight Graham]

Puberty, I think that's when kids have this conflicting sexuality. But you tend to grow out of it.

That's why it's dangerous that our school system interferes to what kids normally go through, by injecting these ideas about different sexual preferences.

You're a complete hypocrite: That's why it's dangerous that our school system religious people interfere to what kids normally go through, by injecting these ideas about different rigid binary sexual preferences.

You think it's evil when certain people love each other romantically and act on consensual love for each other. You think they should stop loving each other romantically/sexually, stop giving each other pleasure, stop being happy. You want them to change what they naturally feel because you happen to not like it. I think your views are disgusting. I know many gay couples. There's nothing wrong or unnatural about them. They're happy, they spread joy and love, they have families with happy children and give their love to them. Judge not lest ye be judged. Love thy neighbour. This is what Jesus preached. Love, Love, LOVE!!

Yes it can initially be uncomfortable when we see homosexuals kissing or holding hands. Get over it.

It's one thing for a woman to admire another woman - but the thing now is that, the LGBT propaganda turns that admiration into something sexual, when in fact it's all just pure appreciation of how the other woman looks.

Like, I could appreciate a beautiful woman without thinking of having sex with her!

Pro-gays/lesbians would want to promote that appreciation, to indicate I am a latent lesbian.

That's complete nonsense, unless you can provide a link to an example.

[Moonlight Graham]

He made plenty of them.

Prove it.

[jacee]

He made plenty of them.

BS

Men wrote those rules to discriminate against gays.

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[Bryan]

Since Betsy won't answer I'll ask you Bryan. How does the LGBT community negatively affect society? I am assuming that your God ruled it a sin because.....

Considering that I never said or even implied that it did, why would I answer such a question?

[WestCoastRunner]

Considering that I never said or even implied that it did, why would I answer such a question?

You implied it's a sin in gods house. Why is it is what I'm asking?

[Bryan]

BS

Men wrote those rules to discriminate against gays.

There's no discrimination against gays whatsoever. They are welcome under the same conditions as everyone else.

[WestCoastRunner]

There's no discrimination against gays whatsoever. They are welcome under the same conditions as everyone else.

It's truly amazing how religious people spin their words around and around.

[Bryan]

It's truly amazing how religious people spin their words around and around.

No spin at all.

[?Impact]

He made plenty of them.

1. Praise me
2. Praise me
3. Praise me
4. Praise me
5. Be good to mommy & daddy
6. Don't kill
7. No sex unless I sanction it
8. Don't steal
9. Don't gossip
10. Don't want more

[Bryan]

1. Praise me
2. Praise me
3. Praise me
4. Praise me
5. Be good to mommy & daddy
6. Don't kill
7. No sex unless I sanction it
8. Don't steal
9. Don't gossip
10. Don't want more

Not too far off. Good rules to live by.

[BC_chick]

Why does it matter whether I'm directly impacted, or not?

Can't I make a stance on issues that doesn't touch me at all? Does it have to have an impact on me?

Do you react to issues ONLY when you are impacted? If it doesn't affect your life in any way, you wouldn't care if it affects others?

That's a good projection of the I, ME, MINE mentality. If it's not about me, who cares! Right?

That's what I'm getting from your question.

Here's what you quoted me:

What I stated is a fact! If it's acceptable - and it's being taught in schools it's okay to try any sexual preference(s) - you think no one will be dabbling in it?

When marijuana becomes legal - you don't think there will be people who'd never smoked it, have a shot at it?

People are passionate about thing that affect them (taxes, immigrants, wars, environment etc) or else they're interested because it's a social justice issue where there is an element of oppression.

For the life of me I don't understand being passionate about something that has no bearing on me, nor any harm to others.

Please elaborate.

As for comparison with smoking pot, that's also none of your business. Pretty much identical.

Seriously, why do you care what people do with their lives when it doesn't impact yours?

[betsy]

When you put it that way, yes maybe sure it could be the case. It would all depend if they're sexually attracted and aroused by the same-sex person. People can experiment, but not be aroused by the experience, so in that case I wouldn't say they're lesbian/bisexual or have those tendencies.

If one is high on drugs, or is drunk....you could end up in bed with someone you never thought you would.

There are factors that make you do things that you never thought you would.

For some people, it's just all about the sex.

Who knows, one could be suffering from nymphomania. Or, what they call, sex addiction.

A porn mag photos are more likely to cause arousal - that's what they're designed to do! Not every photo may give that effect, but certain ones could, depending on the individual perusing the mag.

How do you know that persons cannot be aroused by experience? The whole experience may not arouse a person, but it's also likely that certain part of the experience could. Like, the same-sex experimentation a person have had may not be as what he'd expected (and was actually a turn-off after all), but the thought of a certain part of that encounter (like the way he enjoyed the oral stimulation that was given to him by the gay) could cause him an arousal.

Edited July 9, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

It is possible that a person who has sex with men and women is not really a bisexual, but someone with a bipolar disorder.

Some people with borderline personality disorder (sometimes referred to as BPD) can be markedly impulsive, seductive, and extremely sexual. Sexual promiscuity, sexual obsessions, and hypersexuality are very common symptoms for both men and women with BPD. On occasion for some there can be extreme forms of paraphilic drives and desires. 'Borderline' patients, due in the opinion of some to the use of splitting, experience love and sexuality in unstable ways.^[42]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersexuality

This is an interesting forum about bipolars/homosexuality/bisexuality from various posters.

my husband is bi-poplar he had his first manic episode when he turn 40 and was put on antidepression pills.

when he went through his manic phase he came to me and told me he thought he was gay or bi-sexual he brought a condo, file for divorce; I was a stay at home mom with no job and he cash in his 401 k. we have been married for 16 years..I was crushed-then he was diagnose as bi-poplar.

I ask his doctor if being manic can cause someone to change like that, he said yes.

He beg me to give him another chance and would never do that again and told me he was not gay. So I went back to him he was sick and didn't know what he was doing. (We also always had a good sex life)

He has been fine for 4 years until his doctor took him off his medicine and here we go again. He said he having the same feeling like last time. please help

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/bipolar-in-the-family-discussions/general-support/1358260-can-being-in-a-manic-phase-make-someone-bisexual

Edited July 9, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

You're a complete hypocrite: That's why it's dangerous that our school system religious people interfere to what kids normally go through, by injecting these ideas about different rigid binary sexual preferences.

Moonlight, you've touched something that has to have a thread of its own.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/25909-the-political-agenda-in-our-midst/

Edited July 9, 2016 by betsy

[Moonlight Graham]

It is possible that a person who has sex with men and women is not really a bisexual, but someone with a bipolar disorder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersexuality

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you motherfucking kidding me???!?!? Now you're saying bisexual people may just be mentally ill. I'm sure there are cases when may be true yes, but for Pete's sake...

You need to go back and read your Bible. The good parts. Betsy, just love. And especially love the people who just want to love. All these LGBT+ people are asking to do is love, they want the freedom to love and not be judged by us. That's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The_Squid]

If one is high on drugs, or is drunk....you could end up in bed with someone you never thought you would.

LOL

I've been counting on that for years!

So because someone might make bad decisions, alcohol should be illegal? Is that what you're promoting? That alcohol be illegal? If not, then what exactly are you suggesting be done with alcohol?

[jacee]

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you motherfucking kidding me???!?!? Now you're saying bisexual people may just be mentally ill. I'm sure there are cases when may be true yes, but for Pete's sake...

You need to go back and read your Bible. The good parts. Betsy, just love. And especially love the people who just want to love. All these LGBT+ people are asking to do is love, they want the freedom to love and not be judged by us. That's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who the hell cares what betsy thinks.

She's obviously repressed and obsessed with other people's sex lives that are none of her business.

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[jacee]

If one is high on drugs, or is drunk....you could end up in bed with someone you never thought you would.

There are factors that make you do things that you never thought you would.

For some people, it's just all about the sex.

Who knows, one could be suffering from nymphomania. Or, what they call, sex addiction.

A porn mag photos are more likely to cause arousal - that's what they're designed to do! Not every photo may give that effect, but certain ones could, depending on the individual perusing the mag.

How do you know that persons cannot be aroused by experience? The whole experience may not arouse a person, but it's also likely that certain part of the experience could. Like, the same-sex experimentation a person have had may not be as what he'd expected (and was actually a turn-off after all), but the thought of a certain part of that encounter (like the way he enjoyed the oral stimulation that was given to him by the gay) could cause him an arousal.

You like to stimulate yourself fantasizing about other people's sex lives eh betsy!

You religious conservatives are so transparently obsessed with the things you deny yourselves.

Don't fight the passion, betsy.

Embrace it.

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Edited July 9, 2016 by jacee

[BC_chick]

For some people, it's just all about the sex.

Who knows, one could be suffering from nymphomania. Or, what they call, sex addiction.

Or third and most likely option - they like sex! The horror.

[Guest]

If one is high on drugs, or is drunk....you could end up in bed with someone you never thought you would.

Of course, in that case, you would be being raped, so your sexuality wouldn't be a consideration.