Another Mass Shooting

WestCoastRunner · June 21, 2016

Of course...always get that response from some folks that are so concerned about "the children".

Gun homicide rates are the metrics of this game. "Mass shootings" are a small part of the actual body count.

I am no gun expert but when an AR whatever that can fire off bullets with an amazing speed is allowed to be purchased by the general population I would worry about my children. I am extremely grateful I live in Canada.

Enjoy your rights to be able to purchase these guns.

poochy · June 21, 2016

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-administration-reverses-course-releases-full-transcript-of-orlando-shooters-911-call/

But the gun made him do it, and he's not a terrorist.

"The full transcript of the 911 call is below:

(OD) Orlando Police Dispatcher

(OM) Omar Mateen

OD: Emergency 911, this is being recorded.

OM: In the name of God the Merciful, the beneficent [Arabic]

OD: What?

OM: Praise be to God, and prayers as well as peace be upon the prophet of God [Arabic]. I wanna let you know, I'm in Orlando and I did the shootings.

OD: What's your name?

OM: My name is I pledge of allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of the Islamic State.

OD: Ok, What's your name?

OM: I pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi may God protect him [Arabic], on behalf of the Islamic State.

OD: Alright, where are you at?

OM: In Orlando.

OD: Where in Orlando?

[End of call.]

WestCoastRunner · June 21, 2016

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-administration-reverses-course-releases-full-transcript-of-orlando-shooters-911-call/

But the gun made him do it, and he's not a terrorist.

"The full transcript of the 911 call is below:

(OD) Orlando Police Dispatcher

(OM) Omar Mateen

OD: Emergency 911, this is being recorded.

OM: In the name of God the Merciful, the beneficent [Arabic]

OD: What?

OM: Praise be to God, and prayers as well as peace be upon the prophet of God [Arabic]. I wanna let you know, I'm in Orlando and I did the shootings.

OD: What's your name?

OM: My name is I pledge of allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of the Islamic State.

OD: Ok, What's your name?

OM: I pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi may God protect him [Arabic], on behalf of the Islamic State.

OD: Alright, where are you at?

OM: In Orlando.

OD: Where in Orlando?

[End of call.]

What's your point?

WestCoastRunner · June 21, 2016

Uhhhmm.....

You are obviously 'not old' BC never gave an age group.

poochy · June 21, 2016

I am no gun expert but when an AR whatever that can fire off bullets with an amazing speed is allowed to be purchased by the general population I would worry about my children. I am extremely grateful I live in Canada.

Enjoy your rights to be able to purchase these guns.

You are wrong , except your admssion of knowing little about firearms, not that it ever stops those who don't from sharing an uninformed opinion.

It's a semi automatic rifle. Pull the trigger, it fires, pull it again, it fires again, etc, til empty

It's available in Canada

It's no more or less dangerous than an other semi automatic rifle

There are many for sale in Canada that require nothing more than the basic firearms safety course

The most infamous of which is the Ruger Mini 14, fires exactly the same bullet as the AR variants, at exactly the same rate, and was used to kill 14 women in Quebec 20 years ago, you might remember it.

I can buy a Ruger Mini 14 and have it delivered to my house, as can anyone with the basic firearms safety course, its unrestricted.

There are many other rifles just like it for sale in Canada, some more powerful, hunting rifles, easily purchased, completely legal, unrestricted.

They are all restricted to five round magazines, thats the difference here, though that isn't impossible to overcome, nor is changing a magazine diffcult, it is better.

The only reason the AR15 is restricted in Canada is to buy votes from people who know nothing about firearms, other than which ones look the most scary, becuase you know, how it looks is much more important than how it functions.

People exactly like you.

Edited June 21, 2016 by poochy

poochy · June 21, 2016

What's your point?

I wasnt making one that required or requested a response from you.

WestCoastRunner · June 21, 2016

You are wrong , except your admssion of knowing little about firearms, not that it ever stops those who don't from sharing an uninformed opinion.

It's a semi automatic rifle. Pull the trigger, it fires, pull it again, it fires again, etc, til empty

It's available in Canada

It's no more or less dangerous than an other semi automatic rifle

There are many for sale in Canada that require nothing more than the basic firearms safety course

The most infamous of which is the Ruger Mini 14, fires exactly the same bullet as the AR variants, at exactly the same rate, and was used to kill 14 women in Quebec 20 years ago, you might remember it.

I can buy a Ruger Mini 14 and have it delivered to my house, as can anyone with the basic firearms safety course, its unrestricted.

There are many other rifles just like it for sale in Canada, some more powerful, hunting rifles, easily purchased, completely legal, unrestricted.

They are all restricted to five round magazines, thats the difference here, though that isn't impossible to overcome, nor is changing a magazine diffcult, it is better.

The only reason the AR15 is restricted in Canada is to buy votes from people who know nothing about firearms, other than which ones look the most scary, becuase you know, how it looks is much more important than how it functions.

People exactly like you.

Exactly like me? Good for us!!!!

marcus · June 21, 2016

Sorry, I keep forgetting. There are some good Jews, it's just the 95% who support the existence of a Jewish state who need to be dealt with.

Many people can be naive and ignorant. They can get caught up in the group mentality and nationalism. Not all 95% of Germans were bad for supporting the Nazi regime.

This group mentality, based on ignorance and naivety was demonstrated more recently in the US, in 2003:

72% of Americans interviewed in a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Saturday and Sunday favor the war against Iraq, while 25% are opposed.

Edited June 21, 2016 by marcus

?Impact · June 21, 2016

They can get caught up in the group mentality and nationalism.

Yes, nationalism has often been used by those seeking power to get popular support for themselves. In the aftermath, we learn that they lied to support their agenda. It is a good thing that there are no new candidates seeking power that are wrapping themselves in the flag of nationalism.

TimG · June 21, 2016

The Republican Senators have received $36 million from the NRA. USA, the world's richest banana republic.

Of course when Democratic politicians receive billions from public sector unions in return for pay and benefit increases it is just democracy in action (sarc off).

?Impact · June 21, 2016

Of course when Democratic politicians receive billions from public sector unions in return for pay and benefit increases it is just democracy in action (sarc off).

You are right that public sector unions generally favour Democrats, it is only the number that your off by. The largest 2 contributors to the Democrats over the past 2 years have been the American Federation of State/Country/Municipal Employees and the American Federation of Teachers who contributed about a million dollars each to Democrats. The National Education Association gave $624k to Democrats, and $160k to Republicans. The International Association of Firefighters gave $700k to Democrats, and $205k to Republicans. The National Association of Letter Carriers gave $525k to Democrats and $50k to Republicans. No other union gave over a half million dollars to either party. Added all together, all union donations to all parties are less than half the contribution of the NRA to the Republicans.

I think however we are getting a bit removed from the topic of mass shootings. Perhaps you should open a new topic or find and existing one on party financing.

Edited June 21, 2016 by ?Impact

Argus · June 21, 2016

Except 90% of republican and 85% of democrat Americans support it. So much for representing their communities.

US politicians don't represent their communities, they represent their campaign donors.

Argus · June 21, 2016

So what....Constitution and Supreme Court court have already spoken. Prior restraint based on a no-fly list....won't fly.

As in Canada, your constitution is whatever the nine people appointed by the SC say it is. If the next appointee is on the Left, which seems likely, those decisions will change.

Argus · June 21, 2016

Of course when Democratic politicians receive billions from public sector unions in return for pay and benefit increases it is just democracy in action (sarc off).

No but the Democrats have been extremely open to campaign spending limits. It's been the Republicans who have adamantly opposed them.

bush_cheney2004 · June 21, 2016

As in Canada, your constitution is whatever the nine people appointed by the SC say it is. If the next appointee is on the Left, which seems likely, those decisions will change.

The right to own and bear firearms has been upheld many times, regardless of justice leanings. Canadians have no such right, and never will.

poochy · June 21, 2016

Exactly like me? Good for us!!!!

I suppose the ignorant would believe ignorance is a virtue.

Argus · June 21, 2016

The right to own and bear firearms has been upheld many times, regardless of justice leanings. Canadians have no such right, and never will.

The right will disappear as soon as the right judges are appointed to the SC. That amendment can be interpreted either way, depending on how the judge in question chooses to interpret it.

bush_cheney2004 · June 21, 2016

The right will disappear as soon as the right judges are appointed to the SC. That amendment can be interpreted either way, depending on how the judge in question chooses to interpret it.

Even if that were true (it isn't), firearms numbering in the hundreds of millions will not just disappear from the United States. Sales are up sharply !

cybercoma · June 21, 2016

So what....Constitution and Supreme Court court have already spoken. Prior restraint based on a no-fly list....won't fly.

Very good. The GOP voted to arm terrorists within the United States. Won't affect them in the slightest since their base is so painfully dense anyway.

June 21, 2016

Very good. The GOP voted to arm terrorists within the United States. Won't affect them in the slightest since their base is so painfully dense anyway.

It is utterly stupid.

If you think well enough of them to let them buy a machine gun, might as well let them fly as well.

cybercoma · June 21, 2016

mass shootings are no big deal

This is about the stupidest thing I've seen anyone say but you're not trolling. No, sir.

cybercoma · June 21, 2016

It is utterly stupid.

If you think well enough of them to let them buy a machine gun, might as well let them fly as well.

Exactly. May as well get rid of the additional TFSA checks if you're going to hand them machine guns.

June 21, 2016

This is about the stupidest thing I've seen anyone say but you're not trolling. No, sir.

No, to come to his defence here, there are those who think terrorist deaths compare favourably to accidental vehicle deaths, so it's not an uncommon refrain.

cybercoma · June 21, 2016

Only someone without two braincells to rub together would think there's some kind of equivalency between acts of terrorism or mass murder and vehicular collisions.

June 21, 2016

Only someone without two braincells to rub together would think there's some kind of equivalency between acts of terrorism or mass murder and vehicular collisions.

Oh, I know, but every time there's a death from terrorism some bright spark says you're more likely to be killed in a car crash so it's not a concern.

Well, not every time, and sometimes it's lightning, or it's comparing domestic violence to honour killings but you get my drift. There's always more people dying somewhere else.