betsy Posted May 3, 2016 Report Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) This could be the most shocking (and entertaining) US Presidential election of all time....... The real possibility that Hillary will be indicted, and her released pledged delegates will flock to Joe Biden. The following excerpt is from a lengthy article published in February: The reality of the situation was thrown into sharp relief at the end of January, when the State Department announced its intention to withhold 22 emails, totaling 37 pages, because they contained "top secret" information. That decision brought the State Department in line with the intelligence community, which had argued since last July that some of the emails may contain information classified up to "top secret." But the basic public facts suggest the bureau already has solid grounds on which to recommend an indictment, said Andrew McCarthy, former assistant U.S. attorney in the southern district of New York. "If the press reporting is to be believed, [the case] looks very strong," McCarthy said. "I say that because the statutes involving mishandling classified information are very prosecution-friendly, and they're obviously intended to be that way." While a number of factors are at play in the unusual case of Clinton's emails, McCarthy said the former secretary of state could be looking at more than one felony charge. Mark Jones, a political science fellow at Rice University's Baker Institute, said Clinton would most likely exit the race if indicted. "If she withdraws, then effectively she can relieve all of her delegates from their pledge" to support her at the Democratic National Convention in July, Jones said. Jones said Sanders' chances would not automatically improve in Clinton's absence, thanks to the Democratic Party's high number of superdelegates. Those are delegates not bound by the results of state primaries. Superdelegates are already padding Clinton's delegate count. This year, 712 superdelegates will be free to back the politician of their choosing regardless of how their state votes. Lipson said he thinks the possibility of Clinton being indicted is "very real." "Indeed, the only reason she wouldn't be indicted, I think, is if there was a political decision at the Department of Justice and the White House to prevent it, assuming that the FBI recommends such an indictment," Lipson said. "Of course, the Republicans are trying to make political hay out of this, and I think the American public is buying it, not because Hillary's avid supporters have changed, but because undecided voters now think she is fundamentally dishonest — not only because of the email scandal, but because the email scandal reminds them of so many other things that she's done." http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/what-if-hillary-clintons-indicted/article/2584119 Edited May 3, 2016 by betsy Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted May 3, 2016 Report Posted May 3, 2016 He said he didn't want to run. The odds of anything coming out of the email thing legally is nil. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Big Guy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 I just finished some interesting reading on the presidential races in USA: https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/05/28/why-trump-and-clinton-will-both-lose-burman.html Found two interesting pieces of info: "Unlike the Republicans, delegates to the Democratic convention are free to vote for any candidate regardless of the result of their state primary. So in the event of a Clinton withdrawal, there is the potential for an “open convention” for the Democrats.' "Sources close to Biden indicating that, had he decided to run, Biden would have chosen Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren as his running mate. "He originally declined to run due to the death of his son, but has told friends that he regrets that decision." A Biden, Warren ticket would be hard to beat running against Trump. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
kimmy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 Making Warren his VP pick could go a long way towards winning over the Bernie Bros and Bernadettes and restoring party unity. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
?Impact Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 What delicious irony it would be if the emailgaters somehow forced Hillary to drop out and then Biden/Warren ticket cleans up. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 I'm sure Biden's entry would be a big relief to many on both the democrat and republican sides. I think Biden would take it quite easily. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Moonlight Graham Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 I'm sure Biden's entry would be a big relief to many on both the democrat and republican sides. Why? The policy difference between an Obama vs Biden vs Hillary White House would be very minimal. They were all part of the same admin, all loyal lapdogs to The Party, their donors, their lobbyist friends, their fellow corrupt lying Congessmen/women. I'd love to see a Trump vs Sanders race if nothing but to see the party faithful squirm and sweat. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
-TSS- Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 It would be a nice turn of events but he's too old. Quote
Guest Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 It would be a nice turn of events but he's too old. I suppose that's what Elizabeth Warren would be there for. Quote
BC_chick Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 It would be a nice turn of events but he's too old. Just a few years older than Clinton or Trump. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
-TSS- Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 It seems that any thinkable Democrat-candidate has a good chance of beating Trump, anyone except Hillary, but yet the Democrat-voters cling onto Hillary. If the current e-mail scandal crushes her dreams of becoming a nominee it could be a blessing in disguise for the Democrats as it seems that people in large don't want Trump but they want Hillary even less. Quote
Vega Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 I suppose that's what Elizabeth Warren would be there for. She'll be 67 in June, so not that young. I really don't get why U.S. politicians are some of the oldest in Western democracies. Quote
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