Transgender

[Bryan]

I am speaking out for the lgbt community. How can that possibly be hate? How is that dangerous to defend a group of people that Betsy attacks?

You are the one doing the attacking. You are spreading hate against christians. You called them brainwashed, you alleged that they were tearing families apart.

[WestCoastRunner]

You are the one doing the attacking. You are spreading hate against christians. You called them brainwashed, you alleged that they were tearing families apart.

When a so called Christian comes on here spreading hate towards the lgbt community you bet your ass I'm calling them out on it.

[Bryan]

When a so called Christian comes on here spreading hate towards the lgbt community you bet your ass I'm calling them out on it.

And no one here is doing that.

[betsy]

Betsy, should divorce and adultery be against the law in Canada?

Do you ask me if they're both wrong? I say yes. Do they cause harm to so many - I say yes.

Does it do harm to the FAMILY - the social fabric of society - I say yes.

Well then? Why shouldn't they be?

Divorcing should be done only in special cases - we used to have adultery as a ground for divorce.

Legalizing no-fault divorce, same way we did for abortion....had opened up the floodgates!

Divorce on a whim, is now the rigeur.

Before it was legalized, couples tried their best to make their marriage work. What marriage is perfect?

What relationship doesn't need any work? Maintenance?

Some will say, oh the children grow up in a climate of screaming matches! That depends on the parenting. What children doesn't see parents raise their voice against one another? I see Everybody Loves Raymond sitcom in this scenario - a parody of everyday lives in a family. But at the end of the day, loyalty and love for family stands out.

It's up to the parents to explain - that's the reality!

Before someone comes in to point out the domestic violence that women endure - I'd say, violence against spouses should also be against the law! That's in keeping with the New Testament.

Let's face it: our clime is based on self.

SELF, comes first, above all. We can try to make excuses.....justifications....but it all boils down to, "ME comes first."

....and somewhere along the way, we've thrown out something else, too: there's no more responsibility and accountability for one's decisions and actions.

Edited July 5, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

What happened to Betsy?

I'm here. I'm ignoring you because you've seem to have lost it. You're behaving here just like you were at the other thread, Transformed.

You are being irrational. You're speaking with your emotions - which indicate to me that there's something else going on inside you. Gays and LGBT threads seems to be triggers for you.

You are a very angry poster right now....hence, you're simply ranting. No sense engaging you.

I'm just letting you get it all out of your system.

I am speaking out for the lgbt community.

Who appointed you to speak for them?

You're embarrassing the LGBT community. If their spokespeople reason like you and Cybercoma.....they're toast.

We're talking about religious belief - specifically, Christian belief.

No one is attacking the LGBT - it's all in your head.

Edited July 5, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

You do realize that is talking about stealing from another slaver? Did you read what came before in Exodus 21?

Exodus 21:4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.

You do not stealeth a free man, you stealeth a slave from another master; that is the crime you commit.

Wrong.

You're taking something from the paragraph that's devoted to the section for SERVANTS, and applying it to another.

You're taking it out of context.

Now it comes out......you don't know the basics of reading and understanding the Bible.

Check out the title of the paragraph/chapter to see what the subject is all about. Don't just quote-mine.

Here's Exodus 21 (NIV):

Exodus 21

“These are the laws you are to set before them:

Hebrew Servants

² “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. ³ If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. ⁴ If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.

⁵ “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ ⁶ then his master must take him before the judges.^[a] He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.

⁷ “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. ⁸ If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,^[b] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. ⁹ If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. ¹⁰ If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. ¹¹ If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.

Personal Injuries

¹² “Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death. ¹³ However, if it is not done intentionally, but God lets it happen, they are to flee to a place I will designate. ¹⁴ But if anyone schemes and kills someone deliberately, that person is to be taken from my altar and put to death.

¹⁵ “Anyone who attacks^[c] their father or mother is to be put to death.

¹⁶ “Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession.

Clearly, the Scriptures is talking about kidnapping (stealing) any man. It's a law against human trafficking.

Edited July 5, 2016 by betsy

[jacee]

We're talking about religious belief - specifically, Christian belief.

No one is attacking the LGBT - it's all in your head.

So ... you're suddenly ok with Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender people and practices?

.

[betsy]

So ... you're suddenly ok with Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender people and practices?

.

Eh?

You know....somebody just stated to me that the LGBT movement attracts a, "certain kind of mentality".......

.........I don't know how you came to the understanding that I'm okay with homosexual practices.

And btw, remember that it was you, who automatically associates pedophilia with transgendered people!

Edited July 5, 2016 by betsy

[jacee]

Hmm ... evasive ... you didn't answer.

.

[betsy]

Hmm ... evasive ... you didn't answer.

.

Evasive? What's else is there to answer? It's been answered! Read again.

Put your nose closer to your screen and open your eyes wide. Read slowly.

My response gave the answer to your question.

The thing is, you have a problem understanding what you read.

If you can't keep up with the discussion, if things keep sailing over your head - it's no longer my responsibility to

get you to the level of this discussion.

Go along now, Jacee.

Edited July 5, 2016 by betsy

[jacee]

What's else is there to answer?

You said:

" No one is attacking the LGBT - it's all in your head."

So I asked if you're suddenly ok with LGBT.

And your answer is ...?

[betsy]

You said:

" No one is attacking the LGBT - it's all in your head."

So I asked if you're suddenly ok with LGBT.

And your answer is ...?

See? You're not getting it. Your response shows that.

Sorry Jacee....you're on your own. Figure it out.

Maybe that's what you need (not relying on anyone to help you).....take the time to read and analyze what's been said.

No pain, no gain.

I have no obligation to lead you by the hand every step of the way. This is a board for grown-ups.

Edited July 5, 2016 by betsy

[WestCoastRunner]

See? You're not getting it. Your response shows that.

No pain, no gain.

I have no obligation to lead you by the hand every step of the way. This is a board for grown-ups.

No pain no gain is actually a myth. When someone experience pain it is a symptom of a muscle or something in the body exhibiting signs of stress or damage. This could happen to the brain if it tries to analyze and decipher ramblings that don't have focus.

[Bryan]

No pain no gain is actually a myth.

No it isn't. Damaging the muscles is specifically how you make them stronger.

http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/musclesgrowLK.html

Resistance training leads to trauma or injury of the cellular proteins in muscle. This prompts cell-signaling messages to activate satellite cells to begin a cascade of events leading to muscle repair and growth. Several growth factors are involved that regulate the mechanisms of change in protein number and size within the muscle. The adaptation of muscle to the overload stress of resistance exercise begins immediately after each exercise bout, but often takes weeks or months for it to physically manifest itself. The most adaptable tissue in the human body is skeletal muscle, and it is remarkably remodeled after continuous, and carefully designed, resistance exercise training programs.

[WestCoastRunner]

No it isn't. Damaging the muscles is specifically how you make them stronger.

http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/musclesgrowLK.html

Your article dates back to 2004. I suggest you review more current studies.

[Bryan]

Your article dates back to 2004. I suggest you review more current studies.

I have. Controlled damage to muscle fibres are the physical mechanism that causes muscle growth. Even the unproven theories that actual tears to the fibres are not required still acknowledge that putting the muscles through acute stress is absolutely required.

Edited July 10, 2016 by Bryan

[WestCoastRunner]

I apologize for the thread drift. Some things are hard to resist

[betsy]

Your article dates back to 2004. I suggest you review more current studies.

Oh?

Regular exercise changes the brain to improve memory, thinking skills

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/regular-exercise-changes-brain-improve-memory-thinking-skills-201404097110

Okay, now show me a recent study that refutes that!

Jacee can't decipher a simple statement. She's got problem with thinking skills. You display the same symptoms.

You both lack practice. Your response to Bryan suggest you don't even know that our brains need to be exercised!

It'll be good if you and Jacee do the reading together - analyzing my response to her - maybe, help each other out?

Edited July 11, 2016 by betsy

[WestCoastRunner]

Oh?

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/regular-exercise-changes-brain-improve-memory-thinking-skills-201404097110

Okay, now show me a recent study that refutes that!

Jacee can't decipher a simple statement. She's got problem with thinking skills. You display the same symptoms.

You both lack practice. Your response to Bryan suggest you don't even know that our brains need to be exercised!

It'll be good if you and Jacee do the reading together - analyzing my response to her - maybe, help each other out?

The link you provided has nothing to do with what Bryan and I discussed.

"Ah yes we have been all told that if it doesn’t hurt then you are not doing any good. It should say “If Pain, No Gain”, because if you do end up feeling pain you have done something wrong and may have damaged some of the tissues involved. The accepted norm following an exercise routine is that there might be some delayed onset muscle soreness but it shouldn’t last for more than 48 hours. Any pain that persists longer and is present during any physical activity should be looked at by a Physiotherapist or Sports Medicine doctor." http://www.kinatex.com/en/Kina-Infos/Sports-Medicine-myths-3.html

"We’ve all heard the expression “No pain, No gain”, but it’s very important to distinguish the type of pain that you experience when you’re working out. Pain during and after a hard workout is typical and can even feel good (that’s “good pain”). Sharp or acute pains that prevent you from performing everyday activities are “bad pain”. A good rule of thumb here is that you should be working out to the point of discomfort, but never to the point of sudden pains." http://www.allmaxnutrition.com/post-articles/training/top-5-myths-for-bodybuilders/

"Exercise should never hurt, and it does not have to hurt to be effective. When we begin an exercise program we may experience some muscle soreness, but that is quite different from pain. Pain is an indicator that something is wrong and requires attention. Muscle soreness after exercise even has a name: DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness). This soreness comes from using improper exercise techniques and improperly applying the principles of training. It will go away after a few days. In fact, as their bodies become fitter and adapt to increasing intensity levels, many people feel only minor muscle soreness, or none at all." http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/cur/physhlth/frame_found_gr12/rm/5_fm.pdf

"If “no pain, no gain” is your motto at the gym, you could be setting yourself up for serious injury. “People need to understand within their body what pain is,” said Williams. “There’s a difference between discomfort and pain.” And often times, pain is a symptom of more than a hard workout—it indicates an injury.

Is there such a thing as a “good sore” during a workout? It’s possible, says Williams. For example, if you are working to build strength and endurance in your legs with a squat workout, you may experience some burning in your muscles during exercise. That burn is the lactic acid moving out of the muscles and the feeling should go away 30 seconds to one minute after you stop exercising. According to Williams, this is the only form of pain during a workout that is acceptable and sometimes even necessary. Long-lasting pain or soreness for days after a workout is unnecessary and can lead to overtraining and injury.

“You don’t have to have pain to get results,” said Williams.

Another misconception about pain during a workout is that if you experience pain during exercise, you simply need to work through it. What you really need to do is to rest those muscles, said Williams. “Resting is just as important as the workout itself, and is the only way to ensure your muscles are ready to go the next time you hit the gym.” http://www.cooperaerobics.com/Health-Tips/Fitness-Files/No-Pain,-No-Gain-Myth-or-Fact.aspx

[eyeball]

"We’ve all heard the expression “No pain, No gain”, but it’s very important to distinguish the type of pain that you experience when you’re working out. Pain during and after a hard workout is typical and can even feel good (that’s “good pain”). Sharp or acute pains that prevent you from performing everyday activities are “bad pain”. A good rule of thumb here is that you should be working out to the point of discomfort, but never to the point of sudden pains."

Threads like these apparently work on the same principle but I'd suggest a brick wall might be less painful.

[WestCoastRunner]

Threads like these apparently work on the same principle but I'd suggest a brick wall might be less painful.

[betsy]

The link you provided has nothing to do with what Bryan and I discussed.

"Ah yes we have been all told that if it doesn’t hurt then you are not doing any good. It should say “If Pain, No Gain”, because if you do end up feeling pain you have done something wrong and may have damaged some of the tissues involved. The accepted norm following an exercise routine is that there might be some delayed onset muscle soreness but it shouldn’t last for more than 48 hours. Any pain that persists longer and is present during any physical activity should be looked at by a Physiotherapist or Sports Medicine doctor." http://www.kinatex.com/en/Kina-Infos/Sports-Medicine-myths-3.html

"We’ve all heard the expression “No pain, No gain”, but it’s very important to distinguish the type of pain that you experience when you’re working out. Pain during and after a hard workout is typical and can even feel good (that’s “good pain”). Sharp or acute pains that prevent you from performing everyday activities are “bad pain”. A good rule of thumb here is that you should be working out to the point of discomfort, but never to the point of sudden pains." http://www.allmaxnutrition.com/post-articles/training/top-5-myths-for-bodybuilders/

"Exercise should never hurt, and it does not have to hurt to be effective. When we begin an exercise program we may experience some muscle soreness, but that is quite different from pain. Pain is an indicator that something is wrong and requires attention. Muscle soreness after exercise even has a name: DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness). This soreness comes from using improper exercise techniques and improperly applying the principles of training. It will go away after a few days. In fact, as their bodies become fitter and adapt to increasing intensity levels, many people feel only minor muscle soreness, or none at all." http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/cur/physhlth/frame_found_gr12/rm/5_fm.pdf

"If “no pain, no gain” is your motto at the gym, you could be setting yourself up for serious injury. “People need to understand within their body what pain is,” said Williams. “There’s a difference between discomfort and pain.” And often times, pain is a symptom of more than a hard workout—it indicates an injury.

Is there such a thing as a “good sore” during a workout? It’s possible, says Williams. For example, if you are working to build strength and endurance in your legs with a squat workout, you may experience some burning in your muscles during exercise. That burn is the lactic acid moving out of the muscles and the feeling should go away 30 seconds to one minute after you stop exercising. According to Williams, this is the only form of pain during a workout that is acceptable and sometimes even necessary. Long-lasting pain or soreness for days after a workout is unnecessary and can lead to overtraining and injury.

“You don’t have to have pain to get results,” said Williams.

Another misconception about pain during a workout is that if you experience pain during exercise, you simply need to work through it. What you really need to do is to rest those muscles, said Williams. “Resting is just as important as the workout itself, and is the only way to ensure your muscles are ready to go the next time you hit the gym.” http://www.cooperaerobics.com/Health-Tips/Fitness-Files/No-Pain,-No-Gain-Myth-or-Fact.aspx

You're talking muscles!

Building a better brain: Strengthening your mental muscle

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201004/building-better-brain-strengthening-your-mental-muscle

"No pain, no gain," definitely applies!

Furthermore, you've taken my response (to Jacee), out of context. I was clearly referring to her thinking skills.

Edited July 11, 2016 by betsy

[WestCoastRunner]

Pulling the hair out of my head.....

[Hal 9000]

What does any of this have to do with trans sex people?

[?Impact]

Pulling the hair out of my head.....

I can't afford to do that.

While we continue this tangent that is about a billion miles away from the subject of Transgender, could someone explain to me why we do a cool down period after intense exercise. I understand stretching beforehand, but how can a cool down period help if the damage is already done? I have opened a topic in the Health, Science and Technology group as the discussions in the Sports group appeared to be more focused on spectator sports.