Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau

[bush_cheney2004]

These attacks are just more of the because Trudeau stuff that's become the norm from the far left and right.

Fame is like that....David Bowie wrote a song about it.

Fame

Fame, what you like is in the limo

Fame, what you get is no tomorrow

Fame, what you need you have to borrow

Fame

Edited May 15, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[WestCanMan]

This is a common conservative mistake - you are not the country. We obviously expect more from her then what you're suggesting, as we've decided to give all the spouses of the PM one assistant. If they weren't to do anything, they wouldn't need one.

Common conservative mistake lol. I recognize that as your weak attempt at a comeback but truthfully it's not actually a mistake for a voter in this country to have an opinion. Furthermore, you're not the country either so don't try telling me what "the country" thinks. The country is having a laugh at her expense. #prayforsophie

The other spouses got an assistant, she got an assistant, that's fair.

She also got two nannies off the public dime just a few months after her husband proclaimed for all the world to hear that families like his didn't need family support from the gov't. Of course you don't see the irony in that, I won't bother to explain it to you.

[Argus]

And this is the same kind of petty attack that I would have defended the Conservatives against. Liberals really hated Harper - but Conservatives reeeeaaaallly hate the Trudeau's. Some just hate him because of his name. Other's I'm almost certain, are scared of him.

Conservatives don't like money being wasted to no purpose. This woman does not work for us so why should she need multiple assistants? Bad enough we pay for one. If the Liberal Party wants to pay for another one then let them.

[Smallc]

Conservatives don't like money being wasted to no purpose.

'No purpose' is generally a subjective discussion.

This woman does not work for us so why should she need multiple assistants?

If she doesn't work for us why do we provide her (and everyone before her) with at least one assistant?

ad enough we pay for one. If the Liberal Party wants to pay for another one then let them.

If she's doing partisan work, fine. I see no evidence that she is.

Edited May 16, 2016 by Smallc

[Smallc]

Common conservative mistake lol. I recognize that as your weak attempt at a comeback but truthfully it's not actually a mistake for a voter in this country to have an opinion.

Your opinion is fine. It isn't necessarily representative.

Furthermore, you're not the country either so don't try telling me what "the country" thinks. The country is having a laugh at her expense. #prayforsophie

I didn't tell you what this country thinks. From reading, it seems some people are laughing, some are outraged, and some are supportive.

The other spouses got an assistant, she got an assistant, that's fair.

There is precedent for up to 3. She actually didn't ask for any more help. She simply said that to do what's being asked of her, she needs more.

She also got two nannies off the public dime just a few months after her husband proclaimed for all the world to hear that families like his didn't need family support from the gov't. Of course you don't see the irony in that, I won't bother to explain it to you.

The two child care assistants (one of which has another job at the residence) are at the expense of other house staff members. The budget has remained the same. I don't remember Trudeau saying anything about the head of government not being in a special circumstance in regards to child and family care.

[WestCanMan]

There is precedent for up to 3. She actually didn't ask for any more help. She simply said that to do what's being asked of her, she needs more.

3 plus 2 nannies? Or 3 plus 0 nannies?

[Smallc]

3 plus 2 nannies? Or 3 plus 0 nannies?

The 'nannies' (at least one has other duties at the household)are at the expense of other household staff, and are not only for Sophie, but for Justin as well (it's 2016, after all).

[bush_cheney2004]

The 'nannies' (at least one has other duties at the household)are at the expense of other household staff, and are not only for Sophie, but for Justin as well (it's 2016, after all).

Like when Sophie is cross border shopping or auditioning on American Idol in L.A. ?

[BC_chick]

Mila Mulroney had 3 personal assistants... apparently she was much sought after and had a number of personal charitable causes. After reading your repeated bitching, post after post, I expect you'd like a PM spouse to be nothing more than a bobblehead doll. To read you actually trying to make an argument based on sexism is the epitome of hypocrisy! The profile of a PM spouse is one that can make a difference on many levels... there's a reason for those described 50-60 appearance requests a week - go figure, hey.

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Waaa, Mulroney.

That's all anyone every has, every op/ed, every MLW poster who can't possibly come up with a good reason why on earth someone other than diva Kardashian would need 2 assistants to make a schedule for her.

But but but.... 30 years Mulroney's (much disliked) wife did it. Well guess what, people are gonna dislike this too. Try and stay focused... because it's 2016, not 1986.

And lastly, this is political forum. Expressing opinion is not 'bitching'.

[Smallc]

Waaa, Mulroney.

That's all anyone every has, every op/ed, every MLW poster who can't possibly come up with a good reason why on earth someone other than diva Kardashian would need 2 assistants to make a schedule for her.

I'm noticing this trend lately, and it's something new with you. Despite things being explained, you ignore the explanation and continue to repeat your original and now discredited point.

It's not just about scheduling. The one person that works for her has to:

Receive correspondence

Research the organizations

Vett the organizations

Arange her schedule

Help her write personalized response letters

Help her write personalized speeches

She's not a fan of leaving anything unanswered, or of canned letters or speeches. So the assistant has to help her do all of this, whilst she attends events and travels with her husband as required. She also has to look after her children (despite the claims, two people, with additional duties in at least one case, can't possibly provide 24 hour care) and herself.

Is she hard done by? No.

Does she have a point? Maybe.

[PIK]

Sophie does not have a job, so she does not need anymore help. She needs to STFU.

[BC_chick]

I'm noticing this trend lately, and it's something new with you. Despite things being explained, you ignore the explanation and continue to repeat your original and now discredited point.

It's not just about scheduling. The one person that works for her has to:

Receive correspondence

Research the organizations

Vett the organizations

Arange her schedule

Help her write personalized response letters

Help her write personalized speeches

She's not a fan of leaving anything unanswered, or of canned letters or speeches. So the assistant has to help her do all of this, whilst she attends events and travels with her husband as required. She also has to look after her children (despite the claims, two people, with additional duties in at least one case, can't possibly provide 24 hour care) and herself.

Is she hard done by? No.

Does she have a point? Maybe.

When I was discussing this issue with you on the thread, you were the one who did not respond to my last post (#205). As I stated then, this is no about Mulroney, it's about Trudeau. You have yet to respond, but of course you can't because there is no response to this is 2016, not 1986.

As for her demanding grueling expectations, you're the one ignoring the issue even though it's been said over and over from jacee's OP. She is not elected, none of it is her job. If she is being asked to do more than she can handle, she should learn to say no.

(To turn this back around on you)....I'm noticing this trend lately, and it's something new with you. Despite things being explained, you ignore the explanation and continue to kiss Trudeau butt.

Edited May 16, 2016 by BC_chick

[jacee]

Conservatives don't like money being wasted to no purpose. This woman does not work for us so why should she need multiple assistants? Bad enough we pay for one. If the Liberal Party wants to pay for another one then let them.

It isn't clear to me that she is doing party work.

Seems like just charities.

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[BC_chick]

Oh jacee. Clearly you're just a jealous misogynist for saying that.

Edited May 16, 2016 by BC_chick

[jacee]

She also got two nannies off the public dime just a few months after her husband proclaimed for all the world to hear that families like his didn't need family support from the gov't. Of course you don't see the irony in that, I won't bother to explain it to you.

WestCanMan, you choose to perpetuate a myth. Why?

Are you really that uninformed about something that has been clarified repeatedly?

Or incapable of basic math?

The Trudeau's have the same # of household staff as the Harpers had.

They choose to have two of them who are qualified nannies.

The Harpers chose for Laureen not to do much charity or other work and when they had to travel, they left their kids with housekeepers not qualified in child care ... Either that or they lied about not having qualified nannies.

(What do you think?)

Different choices, same cost.

Or maybe the same choice ... but they just lied about the nannies to avoid this discussion?

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Edited May 16, 2016 by jacee

[Smallc]

Yeah well I don't really consider 30 years ago as contemporary but I don't want to get into semantics about it. Just because Mulroney did something 30 years ago and nobody said anything it doesn't mean I accept it without question now.

I actually don't consider this post to be worth responding to, but why not? Because something was done 30 years ago for someone with the exact same position, it's become a precedent.

It's not needed and what happened 30 years ago does not change that fact.

Okay, you don't think it's needed. Obviously the people making requests disagree - as have successive governments that hired assistants for the PMs spouse.

[Smallc]

When I was discussing this issue with you on the thread, you were the one who did not respond to my last post (#205). As I stated then, this is no about Mulroney, it's about Trudeau. You have yet to respond, but of course you can't because there is no response to this is 2016, not 1986.

And the Charter of Rights was written in 1982 - what's your point?

As for her demanding grueling expectations, you're the one ignoring the issue even though it's been said over and over from jacee's OP. She is not elected, none of it is her job. If she is being asked to do more than she can handle, she should learn to say no

Then why do we hire an assistant? Obviously there is an expectation of this kind of work, as every PMs spouse has done it to one degree or another. The difference in the case of Trudeau is simply the sheer volume.

(To turn this back around on you)....I'm noticing this trend lately, and it's something new with you. Despite things being explained, you ignore the explanation and continue to kiss Trudeau butt.

In my book, opinions don't count as explanations.

[jacee]

As for her demanding grueling expectations, you're the one ignoring the issue even though it's been said over and over from jacee's OP. She is not elected, none of it is her job. If she is being asked to do more than she can handle, she should learn to say no.

I agree.

I also think she could have discussed this with her hubby - who might have suggested that - before she complained publicly.

Lesson learned perhaps? ?

We all have to learn to prioritize, make choices, say no.

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Edited May 16, 2016 by jacee

[Smallc]

I agree.

I also think she could have discussed this with her hubby - who might have suggested that - before she complained publicly.

Lesson learned perhaps?

We all have to learn to prioritize, make choices, say no.

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I still would like to know what the question was that made her give the infamous response - it was an interview after all.

[BC_chick]

Then why do we hire an assistant? Obviously there is an expectation of this kind of work, as every PMs spouse has done it to one degree or another. The difference in the case of Trudeau is simply the sheer volume.

Doing things Sophie Gregoire Trudeau wants to do and chooses to do.

[Smallc]

Doing things Sophie Gregoire Trudeau wants to do and chooses to do.

And? That's been the prerogative of the PMs spouse...and their hired assistant.

But, I don't think she's sending herself the requests.

[BC_chick]

I still would like to know what the question was that made her give the infamous response - it was an interview after all.

Without knowing yourself what the question was, why are you so convinced it was out of context?

[Smallc]

Without knowing yourself what the question was, why are you so convinced it was out of context?

Because there was more to it. I posted it.

[BC_chick]

And? That's been the prerogative of the PMs spouse...and their hired assistant.

But, I don't think she's sending herself the requests.

Whether she is sending them or not isn't relevant. If she can't handle it, she shouldn't be doing it.

The only other PM's wife who did this anything of the sort was known to be a much disliked elitist. Even Mulroney joked about her diva behaviour and spending habits.

If that's the direction SGT wants to take, she should prepare for the criticism.

[BC_chick]

Because there was more to it. I posted it.

Yes I know, but twice you've wondered what the question was that prompted that response. Without knowing what the question was, why are you so convinced it matters?