America under President Trump

[taxme]

On 11/3/2019 at 5:21 PM, bcsapper said:

How does Trump keep a straight face here? 

 

It looks to me like they are all praying. Hence the straight face. When one is praying they usually don't start laughing.

So, what is your point for posting this picture here? Just wondering.   

Edited November 15, 2019 by taxme

[OftenWrong]

21 hours ago, Rue said:

We are way past denial on what he did with Ukraine. Now shit is coming out about Erdogan and Putin.

Relax. he is the president of the United States, after all.

[Boges]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It doesn't matter what they're saying if they didn't hear it first hand. 

The truth already had one chance to be interpreted incorrectly by the first person when they heard it, and then it was filtered through the bias of that person before the second person got a chance to hear it, so there are two reasons why it could be inaccurate at that point.

When you hear a second-hand account it has been interpreted twice and filtered through two possible sets of bias. There's almost no chance to get an accurate picture of what happened under those circumstances, and this whole process relies on proving the exact tone and intent of Trump's message because the words themselves don't constitute a crime of any sort. 

I'm not flailing. I've given up on your ability to learn anything that you don't see on CNN.

So Sondland has first hand knowledge. If he claims that Trump directed him to withhold military aid to investigate Biden then he should be impeached then? 

[Boges]

5 hours ago, taxme said:

It looks to me like they are all praying. Hence the straight face. When one is praying they usually don't start laughing.

So, what is your point for posting this picture here? Just wondering.   

Because people praying for a crude pathological liar and philanderer just because he'll help them prevent women from aborting their pregnancy is hilariously hypocritical and ironic. 

Edited November 15, 2019 by Boges

[Yzermandius19]

13 minutes ago, Boges said:

So Sondland has first hand knowledge. If he claims that Trump directed him to withhold military aid to investigate Biden then he should be impeached then? 

Not unless Sondland can prove there was no other reason to withhold the aid, and good luck with that. There are plenty of reasons to temporarily withhold the aid from Ukraine, especially considering Trump released the aid without getting the investigation that you think was the only reason he withheld the aid in the first place.

Ukraine got the aid without investigating Biden which shows that clearly there were other reasons for withholding or he wouldn't have released the aid, and Ukraine didn't investigate Biden which shows Ukraine never gave Trump an investigation in exchange for the aid. There was no quid and there was no quo.

Edited November 15, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Guest]

6 hours ago, taxme said:

It looks to me like they are all praying. Hence the straight face. When one is praying they usually don't start laughing.

So, what is your point for posting this picture here? Just wondering.   

I often post about religious nutjobs.  It's one of the fun things to do on here.

You really think Trump is taking them seriously?

You really think they think their God likes Trump?

The comedy is easily apparent.

[Boges]

1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Not unless Sondland can prove there was no other reason to withhold the aid, and good luck with that. There are plenty of reasons to temporarily withhold the aid from Ukraine, especially considering Trump released the aid without getting the investigation that you think was the only reason he withheld the aid in the first place.

Ukraine got the aid without investigating Biden which shows that clearly there were other reasons for withholding or he wouldn't have released the aid, and Ukraine didn't investigate Biden which shows Ukraine never gave Trump an investigation in exchange for the aid. There was no quid and there was no quo.

Two days after the Whistleblower complaint came to light. I wonder why they did that? 

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Two days after the Whistleblower complaint came to light. I wonder why they did that? 

Speculation is not proof, especially your speculation. Without evidence, it's just wishful thinking on your part.

Edited November 15, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Speculation is not proof, especially your speculation.

Yeah attempted murder isn't a crime either. 

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Yeah attempted murder isn't a crime either. 

Prove it was attempted bribery, or btfo. Speculation does not result in people getting convicted of attempted murder or attempted robbery, or any other shitty legal analogy you want to use.

Edited November 15, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Prove it was attempted bribery, or btfo.

Hey we did all these crimes, but when someone finally called out out on it we tried to cover it up. So no crime! 

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Hey we did all these crimes, but when someone finally called out out on it we tried to cover it up. So no crime! 

You have no proof of any crime. You have hearsay and speculation based on your opinion, none of which would result in a conviction for any crime you compared it to in an analogy.

Edited November 15, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

14 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

You have no proof of any crime. You have hearsay and speculation based on your opinion, none of which would result in a conviction for any crime you compared it to in an analogy.

1) Impeachment isn't a criminal process

2) All these witnesses are pretty much saying the same thing. Are you saying they're all lying? Or could it be the pathological liar is lying. 

 

[Boges]

So Trump starts shit talking the current Witness on Twitter leading to accusations of Witness Tampering. 

Idiot can't help himself. 

[Yzermandius19]

21 minutes ago, Boges said:

Yeah attempted murder isn't a crime either. 

Again, you have no have no proof of what he attempted to do. Accusing someone of attempted murder does not result in conviction.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

1) Impeachment isn't a criminal process

2) All these witnesses are pretty much saying the same thing. Are you saying they're all lying? Or could it be the pathological liar is lying. 

 

I'm saying they are giving their opinions, and have no insight on what Trump was actually doing, they are just speculating.

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Again, you have no have no proof of what he attempted to do. Accusing someone of attempted murder does not result in conviction.

You'll become a broken record when witness after witness testify to the exact same thing. But continue. 

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

I'm saying they are giving their opinions, and have no insight on what Trump was actually doing, they are just speculating.

They're not giving opinions. They're giving testimony to what they experienced. 

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, Boges said:

You'll become a broken record when witness after witness testify to the exact same thing. But continue. 

They have not given any proof that Trump was doing what they think he was doing, and all the witness admit they are just speculating and have no evidence.

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

They're not giving opinions. They're giving testimony to what they experienced. 

They can't read Trump's mind, that is an opinion. None of them experienced any first hand evidence that proves Trump is doing what they speculate he was doing, and they say as much in their testimony, but you ignore that part because you want to pretend they have evidence that they don't actually have.

Edited November 15, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

They can't read Trump's mind, that is an opinion. None of them experienced any first hand evidence that proves Trump is doing what they speculate he was doing, and they say as much in their testimony, but you ignore that part because you want to pretend they have evidence that they don't actually have.

Sondland did. He'll be the game breaker here. 

Regardless Trump gets protected by his obstruction?

People who do get directions from POTUS are refusing to testify. So that's obstruction of Justice, Trump should get impeached for that alone.  

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Sondland did. He'll be the game breaker here. 

Regardless Trump gets protected by his obstruction?

People who do get directions from POTUS are refusing to testify. So that's obstruction of Justice, Trump should get impeached for that alone.  

Sondland has nothing, or the media would have leaked the smoking gun already. Your only hope is that Giuliani tells you what you want to hear, good luck with that.

Edited November 15, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Sondland has nothing, or the media would have leaked the smoking gun already. Your only hope is that Giuliani tells you what you want to hear, good luck with that.

Sondland can certainly testify to being directed by Trump. Another witness has direct evidence of Sondland talking to Trump. 

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, Boges said:

Sondland can certainly testify to being directed by Trump. Another witness has direct evidence of Sondland talking to Trump. 

You are hoping that Trump directed Sondland to do what you think he did, but there is no proof of that.

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

You are hoping that Trump directed Sondland to do what you think he did, but there is no proof of that.

Apparently he directed funds be withheld in exchange for a public declaration of an investigation. 

I can see the bar you're holding. But you're a sycophant so I'm not exactly sure that's the same bar we're looking at here. 

It's pretty clear Trump withheld the funds in exchange of an investigation. I think most people concede that. It's the question of that being OK or not.