Hal 9000 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: Boy you must have some inside information that no one else in the world has. Everyone else understands Trump phoned Comey and invited him for dinner, and Comey was surprised to find himself the only invitee, which was totally inappropriate. Maybe, but very romantic. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
OftenWrong Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Wilber said: Can but no president ever has until now. Sorry, but you're wrong_again_wilber Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Omni said: Your understanding is totally wrong then. People such as FBI director are appointed for 10 years for the very reason they can rise above partisan politics in their duties. But did Comey rise above partisan politics? His actions are questionable. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
OftenWrong Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wilber said: Can but no president ever has until now. Comey is the second FBI director to be fired @Omni The President has held the power to appoint and dismiss the director of the FBI at his or her discretion since 1968. Edited June 9, 2017 by OftenWrong Quote
Omni Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: They can be dismissed by the president, as demonstrated. Yes they can but you've missed the point. They are assigned for the term they are so as to at least attempt to demonstrate non partisanship within the law. Quote
Omni Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Hal 9000 said: But did Comey rise above partisan politics? His actions are questionable. And asking the FBI director to abandon an ongoing investigation is not questionable? Quote
OftenWrong Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: Yes they can but you've missed the point. They are assigned for the term they are so as to at least attempt to demonstrate non partisanship within the law. They are now fired, at the presidents discretion. Nothing more is needed to fire them. Quote
Omni Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Comey is the second FBI director to be fired @Omni The President has held the power to appoint and dismiss the director of the FBI at his or her discretion since 1968. Yes we've all known that forever. Is there a point to your bringing that up? Quote
Omni Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: They are now fired, at the presidents discretion. Nothing more is needed to fire them. So, Trump should have just fired him at his discretion, and then shut his GDF mouth. But he's not smart enough to do that, is he? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Omni said: And asking the FBI director to abandon an ongoing investigation is not questionable? But, you do admit that Comey's actions were questionable...right? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Omni said: So, Trump should have just fired him at his discretion, and then shut his GDF mouth. But he's not smart enough to do that, is he? No, Trump is much smarter than that...just ask Hillary Clinton. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Legal expert Alan Dershowitz reminded viewers that President Trump could have just pardoned former national security advisor Michael Flynn and stopped the FBI's investigation into Flynn's conversations with the Russian ambassador. "The president has the authority to direct the head of the FBI to stop investigating anyone," Dershowitz stated on "Your World." "I've been saying this for months." http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/08/alan-dershowitz-president-trump-could-have-just-pardoned-michael-flynn Reality is fleeting for so many these days. 1 Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Man, does Dershowitz ever have a lot of pictures on his wall. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Legal expert Alan Dershowitz reminded viewers that President Trump could have just pardoned former national security advisor Michael Flynn and stopped the FBI's investigation into Flynn's conversations with the Russian ambassador. "The president has the authority to direct the head of the FBI to stop investigating anyone," Dershowitz stated on "Your World." "I've been saying this for months." http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/08/alan-dershowitz-president-trump-could-have-just-pardoned-michael-flynn Reality is fleeting for so many these days. Now I'm crossed, should I believe Alan Dershowitz or Omni and Wilbur? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Argus Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 7 hours ago, blackbird said: Hillary and Obama (and Trudeau to some extent) are very experienced in the political system and government and are expected to know far more than someone who never had any experience in it. He was a businessman who spent time in negotiating contracts for business. Trump was never a businessman. He was a real estate developer in Manhattan - where it's almost impossible to lose money. He never negotiated contracts. He had others do that for him. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Topaz said: Argus, If Trump doesn't believe about the Russians, doesn't mean it true or not true,even if the agencies say its true because in today's tech. a country can pretend to be another country to spy or what That's BS. You think American intelligence agencies don't understand this stuff? You think the NSA is confused about it? Give me a break. Every American intelligence agency says it was the Russians. Period. It's all new corrupt world out there and anything goes, even killing Seth Rich, to stop him revealing what Hillary was up to against Bernie and I' Spare me the conspiracy drivel. Next you'll be telling me Hillary Clinton is an infiltrator from the lizard kingdom taking her orders from an alien master race. Edited June 9, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Topaz said: Pelsoi, came out today and said she thought Trump had mental health problems Most of us suspect that. I was saying to someone the other day that if Trump goes it's more likely to be after a forced medical examination shows him unfit for office due to mental deterioration than impeachment. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: Mr. Comey was FBI director under the Obama administration. It's my understanding that it's pretty common to replace any or all of the executive staff when there is a change of government in the USA. It is not mandatory of course, and comes under the new administrations discretion. Demanding loyalty of Comey in this context is pretty reasonable. No, it's completely unreasonable. He's the country's head of police, essentially. You don't demand personal loyalty from the guy running the police. His loyalty is to the enforcement of laws and to the constitution, not to a politician. When you have a country where the police owe loyalty to the politicians you have a country where the police drag opposition leaders off to jail. Edited June 10, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: They are now fired, at the presidents discretion. Nothing more is needed to fire them. The problem is not firing the FBI director. The problem is a guy whose entire team is under investigation by the FBI firing the FBI director because he doesn't want his team investigated. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hal 9000 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Argus said: The problem is not firing the FBI director. The problem is a guy whose entire team is under investigation by the FBI firing the FBI director because he doesn't want his team investigated. Is that why he was fired? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
OftenWrong Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Argus said: The problem is not firing the FBI director. The problem is a guy whose entire team is under investigation by the FBI firing the FBI director because he doesn't want his team investigated. That is now all just water under the bridge, Liberals have had their moment in the sun, and this charade has gone on for long enough, with nothing. Much ado about nothing. Really much. What troubles me is how much time and energy is being spent on this issue by the media and all of us. There's no credibility, no real news. Just what I might call "infotainment", and we've all been had. Quote
Argus Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: That is now all just water under the bridge, You realize this is all still under investigation, right? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Is that why he was fired? Clearly. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hal 9000 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 Just now, Argus said: Clearly. Clearly speculative? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Argus Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 Just now, Hal 9000 said: Clearly speculative? Trump said as much, for Gods sake. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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