Wilber Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 45 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes they can...and deal with any ramifications later. No foreign national has the unlimited right to enter the U.S. So they are a law unto themselves. You seem to like that concept. No foreign national has an unlimited right to enter any country. It's not about foreign national's rights, it's about your own laws. My laws to when it comes to my country. I believe in due process and rule of law, even if I don't always like the result. What do you believe in? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Wilber said: So they are a law unto themselves. You seem to like that concept. No foreign national has an unlimited right to enter any country. It's not about foreign national's rights, it's about your own laws. My laws to when it comes to my country. I believe in due process and rule of law, even if I don't always like the result. What do you believe in? I believe that the Executive Branch of the U.S. Federal Government will develop and execute policies consistent with the limits of constitutional power. This leaves wide, legal discretion for the admission of foreign nationals to the United States. Foreign nationals who disagree can choose to go elsewhere in protest....like Canadians boycotting ketchup. This issue strikes at the very definition of a sovereign state. Edited March 18, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I believe that the Executive Branch of the U.S. Federal Government will develop and execute policies consistent with the limits of constitutional power. This leaves wide, legal discretion for the admission of foreign nationals to the United States. Foreign nationals who disagree can choose to go elsewhere in protest....like Canadians boycotting ketchup. This issue strikes at the very definition of a sovereign state. And when your own courts say those policies are not within the limits of constitutional power? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 Just now, Wilber said: And when your own courts say those policies are not within the limits of constitutional power? Still being adjudicated at this time....Trump could prevail on all or parts of the travel ban. Obama banned Iraqis....did Canadians protest that too ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Still being adjudicated at this time....Trump could prevail on all or parts of the travel ban. Obama banned Iraqis....did Canadians protest that too ? He might very well but until a lower court decision is overturned by a higher court, it stands. I'm not protesting anything. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Wilber said: He might very well but until a lower court decision is overturned by a higher court, it stands. I'm not protesting anything. It's not that simple. Trump can slow down or stop visa applications regardless of the courts. Refugees too. A U.S. president has the power/duty to do these things. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Topaz Posted March 18, 2017 Report Posted March 18, 2017 Any guesses who stole the laptop from the SS agents car that has Trump Tower blue print.... does someone want to do nasty things to the Tower? I don't know if its true but the SS agent is the one who said she wouldn't take a bullet for Trump. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39310793 Quote
Wilber Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Topaz said: Any guesses who stole the laptop from the SS agents car that has Trump Tower blue print.... does someone want to do nasty things to the Tower? I don't know if its true but the SS agent is the one who said she wouldn't take a bullet for Trump. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39310793 Thousands of laptops are stolen every day, a lot of them from cars. I won't leave my laptop in a car unattended. Someone got careless. If you don't know if it is true, why say it. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Cum Laude Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Wilber said: Thousands of laptops are stolen every day, a lot of them from cars. I won't leave my laptop in a car unattended. Someone got careless. If you don't know if it is true, why say it. When the force is disturbed not all feel it. A thirst for an ugly lack of feeling make pockets of unreality which amplify waves of misery spreading out from the disturbance. Quote
OftenWrong Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, Cum Laude said: When the force is disturbed not all feel it. A thirst for an ugly lack of feeling make pockets of unreality which amplify waves of misery spreading out from the disturbance. What the hell are you talking about? Quote
Topaz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 11 hours ago, Wilber said: Thousands of laptops are stolen every day, a lot of them from cars. I won't leave my laptop in a car unattended. Someone got careless. If you don't know if it is true, why say it. I guess now I can say it...... http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/24/politics/secret-service-agent-trump-bullet/index.html 1 Quote
Topaz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 11 hours ago, Wilber said: Thousands of laptops are stolen every day, a lot of them from cars. I won't leave my laptop in a car unattended. Someone got careless. If you don't know if it is true, why say it. The difference is what was on the laptop which was the ins and out of Trump Tower and seeing how certain people just hate Trump, it appears someone may want do harm to the building or people inside. Quote
Wilber Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Topaz said: The difference is what was on the laptop which was the ins and out of Trump Tower and seeing how certain people just hate Trump, it appears someone may want do harm to the building or people inside. If you say so but if you leave your laptop sitting in your car overnight and it isn't parked in a secure area, don't be surprized if it stolen. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Topaz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Wilber said: If you say so but if you leave your laptop sitting in your car overnight and it isn't parked in a secure area, don't be surprized if it stolen. EXACTLY, I think she did on purpose, she doesn't like Trump and she didn't lock her car. Trump doesn't know who he can trust but he's slowly learning. Quote
Wilber Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, Topaz said: I guess now I can say it...... http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/24/politics/secret-service-agent-trump-bullet/index.html Sounds like she is in the wrong job. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Wilber Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Topaz said: EXACTLY, I think she did on purpose, she doesn't like Trump and she didn't lock her car. Trump doesn't know who he can trust but he's slowly learning. Who is she? Are you just assuming the agent who made the comments is the same one who lost the laptop? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Topaz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 In my view, North Americans better wake up and open their minds to the fact the world as changed since 9/11 and the possibilities of things/situations that would not likely happen CAN happen because corruption is every where in governments and tech. today is helping make that happen a lot easier. 1 Quote
Topaz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Wilber said: Who is she? Are you just assuming the agent who made the comments is the same one who lost the laptop? Yes, I was told by grapevine who saw it online. and they know more about what's going on than I do and I told them take a journalist course and get a job and start writing. Quote
Wilber Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Topaz said: Yes, I was told by grapevine who saw it online. and they know more about what's going on than I do and I told them take a journalist course and get a job and start writing. So you are just assuming because neither of the links you posted makes any such connection, other than they were both female. Edited March 19, 2017 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Topaz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 I found this video of former CIA agent Larry Johnson and his view of what is happening in the US and Trump and thoughts on what the has to say. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=larry+johnson%2fformer+CIA&view=detail&mid=1ED2380BACDD7A8532ED1ED2380BACDD7A8532ED&FORM=VIRE Quote
Topaz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Wilber said: Who is she? Are you just assuming the agent who made the comments is the same one who lost the laptop? NO, I just realize one is a SS and the other is CIA agent, my mistake. Quote
Topaz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 Here is another link on the lap top.... https://emsnews.wordpress.com/2017/03/18/female-ss-agents-secret-computer-left-in-car-overnight-unlocked-is-stolen/ Quote
Wilber Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) So two different women then. I doubt agent O'Grady is the first agent to disagree with a sitting president's politics but they are protecting the president not the individual. She is definitely out of line IMO but, " I wouldn't take a bullet for that guy", doesn't translate to "I would like to kill that guy". Edited March 19, 2017 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
OftenWrong Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 53 minutes ago, Wilber said: So two different women then. I doubt agent O'Grady is the first agent to disagree with a sitting president's politics but they are protecting the president not the individual. She is definitely out of line IMO but, " I wouldn't take a bullet for that guy", doesn't translate to "I would like to kill that guy". Seems to me it does, if her job is to protect the life of the president. Quote
Cum Laude Posted March 19, 2017 Report Posted March 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Wilber said: So two different women then. I doubt agent O'Grady is the first agent to disagree with a sitting president's politics but they are protecting the president not the individual. She is definitely out of line IMO but, " I wouldn't take a bullet for that guy", doesn't translate to "I would like to kill that guy". That is correct Wilber, and more evidence to the possibility that Mr. Trump was specifically installed into the presidency as the jockey de jour for the long jump off of the Steel Pier into the Big Tank. Quote
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