Zionism's influence over Western politics

[bush_cheney2004]

Zionist lobbyists bad...Canadian or Iranian lobbyists good !

[kactus]

Your baiting speaks for itself. I am here to bust open an anti semitic myth and your repeat attempts to bait me and turn this into a personal attack have done not a damn thing. There is no reverse psychology there is me answering directly and stating unequivocally, the Iranian lobby does nothing any different than AIPAC and if AIPAC was the myth you and your other pathetic parrots claim it is, it would have defeated the Iranian deal and Israel would have as people like you like to claim led the US to a war against Iran. Go on prove the Iranian lobby is smaller and less powerful than AIPAC. You claim it is prove it. Prove it.

Obama has shown vividly and blatantly how he's been the most anti semitic of US Presidents ever destroying the myth Jews control him. His open support of the Muslim Brotherhood and Muslim extremism, his creation of ISIL and getting into bed with various Muslim extremists all speaks for itself as to the idiocy of anyone attempting to suggest he was controlled by Jews. He is a blatant example of how a US President turned on Israel and was applauded for it by left wing moderates who think he ushered in peace and instead has left the world a burning inferno of civil war in the Middle East and closer to a world war then at any time.

Hilary Clinton's distancing from him is too little too late. She will get elected out of default and her foreign policy will continue his legacy of sucking up to Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Yup, a bunch of drivel as expected...

Frankly the fact that the mods here let you get away with insults speaks volume but do carry on. I am just being entertained by your twisted long winded posts that doesn't address my question...

Get back to me when you can give us a source for your claim that Iranian lobby is bigger than AIPAC. Without the source you lack credibility and substance. By all means if you still insist to carry on with fabricated (rue) made claim go ahead but then don't expect us to take your posts seriously.

Edited May 8, 2016 by kactus

[Rue]

Get back to me when you have proof Kactus the Iranian lobby is smaller or less powerful than AIPAC. That is your claim finish it. Thi horse crap that you think I have to assert your point you can't prove is laughable. I have shown clearly the Iranian lobby has paid off Clinton and that the Arab and Iranian lobbies exist no differently in activity and extent than AIPAC. You or anyone else want to claim the Iranian lobby or Arab lobby is not as large powerful put up or shut up. Insulting? What is insulting are people like you who think you can come on this forum parrot bilge without anything to back it up, ignore the responses I provide because you have no clue how to respond to them and pose yourself as a victim of insults.

You spew bilge, I throw it back in your face.

Now I am still waiting for one of you anti Israeli parrots to prove an iota of evidence the Iranian lobby is not as influential, large or as powerful as AIPAC. I didn't make the contention you parrots did. My contention fro the get go is by default the Iranian lobby has paid off Clinton while AIPAC has not which necessarily means its contributions have to be larger. Even a brain damaged individual can figure that one out.

You want to play semantics with me. Do I look like I am playing. I have exposed your bilge. The Arab and Iranian lobbies do no differently than AIPAC. This anti semitic bilge that Jews control the world, the West, the US is just that, rancid, baseless, unproven, recycled anti semitic sewage.

Edited May 8, 2016 by Rue

[BC_chick]

Still no cite eh?

[Rue]

Still no cite- No you havenèt bothered BC Chick. You can not prove the Iranian lobby or the Arab lobby is smaller than AIPACès. I am waiting. Finish what you started You want to parrot AIPAC is more powerful and larger tha Iranès or the Arab lobby put up or shut up. I have provided proof AIPAC does not support Clinton and Iran does. I have provided more than ample proof to show there is no difference between Iranès lobby, the Arab lobby and AIPACand I have provided cites to show the myth of AIPAC.

What have you done on this thread. Other than to engage in parroting this pathetic myth that AIPAC controls the west hat have you proven.... what cites have you proven to show the Iranian or Arab lobbies are smaller well..

You think you can coome on this forum, engage in parroting or anti semitic bilge about Jews controlling the West and demand I provre your false anti semitic bigle is false...lol....go on finish what you started...provide you proof the AIPAC lobby is larger than the Arab and Iranian lobbies and controls the west...you think trying to engage me in purile semantics detracts from your being unable to cite a damn thing....

Anti semitic bilge that is what you support on this thread..

Here is more citingh-exploding your pathetic myth:

Chirp chirp.

source:https://electronicintifada.net/content/aipacs-power-often-overrated/4170npolicy

In the United States, then, AIPAC is not the source of support for Israel, but rather its conduit, channeling the groundswell of popular opinion into actionable legislation and prodigious campaign donations. Over the past 63 years, AIPAC has defined what it means to be pro-Israel, much like NARAL has defined what it means to be pro-choice, and the NRA has defined what it means to be pro-gun. But that role isn’t an inevitability—and, indeed, in recent years, both the dovish activists at J Street and hawkish ones at the Emergency Committee for Israel have worked to fracture AIPAC’s monopoly by arguing that the definition of “pro-Israel” encompasses their own more liberal and neoconservative policies. But the reason American politicians tilt “pro-Israel,” whatever the particular flavor, is that their voters tilt pro-Israel. There is simply no electoral incentive for politicians to define themselves any other way. And it’s why even Israel’s harshest American critics tend to present their case as being in the Jewish state’s “best interest.”
This understanding of AIPAC’s power doesn’t just explain why it wins. It also explains why it often doesn’t—something those who claim the group has a “stranglehold” on Congress cannot consistently account for. In fact, the defeats are just as easily explained as the victories: Because the Israel lobby depends on popular support to sway politicians, it fails when it pushes policies that the majority of Americans oppose. “When AIPAC takes positions that are contrary to public opinion, more often than not they lose,” said Dr. Michael Koplow, director of the Israel Institute in Washington, D.C., who has published qualitative analysis demonstrating this phenomenon in the peer-reviewed political science journal Security Studies. In his work, Koplow points to pro-Israel groups’ failure to free convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, as well as AIPAC’s famously unsuccessful attempt to block the sale of Airborne Warning and Control System—AWACS—surveillance planes to Saudi Arabia, among other case studies. “Those are issues where AIPAC was unquestionably on the wrong side of public opinion and they lost.
But one doesn’t need to thumb through the history books to find instances of the Israel lobby’s failure in the face of popular opposition. Just look at the last few months. In September, Politico reported that “some 250 Jewish leaders and AIPAC activists” would “storm the halls on Capitol Hill” to persuade Congress to authorize President Obama’s request to use military force in Syria. Polls, however, showed that “nearly sixty percent of Americans want Congress to vote no.” The vote on the resolution never even took place.
The same pattern soon repeated itself, first when the United States and the international community struck an interim deal with Iran concerning its nuclear program over the objections of the Israeli government and its supporters in Washington, and then when Congress failed to pass additional sanctions legislation. In both cases, polls showed that the public overwhelmingly favored diplomacy. Once again, the Israel lobby proved to be a paper tiger when pushing unpopular policies. As it turns out, it is not AIPAC that possesses a stranglehold over American foreign policy, but the American electorate.
***
Understanding that AIPAC is empowered by American public opinion is more than just an academic exercise. It is crucial for anyone who hopes to shape America’s Israel policy. This is because many critics of that policy continue to be hobbled by the erroneous assumption that its content is determined by American Jews. Thus, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman claimed this past November that congressional support for harsher Iran sanctions “comes less from any careful consideration of the facts and more from a growing tendency by many American lawmakers to do whatever the Israel lobby asks them to do in order to garner Jewish votes and campaign donations.” And Peter Beinart, writing recently about two rabbis who signed a letter opposing AIPAC, claimed, “Were all the rabbis and Jewish professionals who privately agree with Matalon and Sol to say so publicly, the communal foundation upon which AIPAC rests would crumble.”
These arguments aren’t simply problematic because they play into dubious and dangerous tropes about Jewish power. They’re fundamentally misguided because they presume that American Jews—their votes, voices, and largesse—are the key to America’s Israel policy. Change those, the thinking goes, and you will change the policy. In truth, the Israel lobby does not depend on Jewish opinion, and it does not deliver Jewish votes. At AIPAC’s 2004 convention, President George W. Bush was greeted with a rapturous reception and chants of “four more years.” In the 2004 election, his Democratic opponent John Kerry won 76 percent of the Jewish vote. Indeed, Jews are one of the most reliably Democratic blocs in America, regardless of the individual candidates’ positions on Israel.
Rather, as the many polls above have shown, AIPAC is decidedly not a “Jewish lobby.” Thus, attempting to erode its influence by convincing American Jews to desert it is a recipe for failure. As an outgrowth of popular sentiment, AIPAC does not necessarily reflect the opinions of the 2 percent of Americans who are Jewish, but rather the 98 percent who are not—and those are the voters who matter.
For any activist seeking to shape America’s Israel policy, then, the takeaway should be clear: Changing Jewish minds may be valuable, but changing non-Jewish ones is essential. Whether one thinks President Obama is too hard on Israel or too lenient, the secret to shifting American positions lies with the American people—and the sooner American Jews and others discard their debilitating myths about AIPAC’s influence, the sooner they can start having a real impact on American foreign policy

Edited May 8, 2016 by Rue

[Rue]

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/anti-semitic-myths/

The bull crap anti semitic bilge of Jews controlling the west on this thread is a classic example of using anti semitic canards under the pretext of discussing Israel policies.

Its all about advancing vile anti semitic stereotypes.

Not one of the anti Israeli parrots who has engaged me and tried to demand I prove the Iranian lobby is less powerful than AIPAC, not one of them as provided proof for any special Jew powers let alone any proof that AIPAC is more powerful or larger than Iranès lobby or the Arab lobby. Instead what I have received is a pathetic attempt to tell me I must proof the anti semitic sewage passed off as comment.

I have shown where the sewage comes from. Old myths never die. They are recycled under the pretense of criticizing Israeli state policies.

Not one shred of proof, not one damn piece of proof AIPAC controls anything. Not one damn piec of proof a Jew controls anything. Not a damn shrredf of evidence to back up the vile stereotypes but plenty of attempts to tell me I can not prove the Iranian lobby is bigger than AIPAC..s. Lol.

Go on send one anti Israeli parrot with proof to me of the size of the Iranian lobby let alone it being smaller than AIPAC..s.

Lol like that will happen.

[kactus]

Get back to me when you have proof Kactus the Iranian lobby is smaller or less powerful than AIPAC. That is your claim finish it. Thi horse crap that you think I have to assert your point you can't prove is laughable. I have shown clearly the Iranian lobby has paid off Clinton and that the Arab and Iranian lobbies exist no differently in activity and extent than AIPAC. You or anyone else want to claim the Iranian lobby or Arab lobby is not as large powerful put up or shut up. Insulting? What is insulting are people like you who think you can come on this forum parrot bilge without anything to back it up, ignore the responses I provide because you have no clue how to respond to them and pose yourself as a victim of insults.

You spew bilge, I throw it back in your face.

Now I am still waiting for one of you anti Israeli parrots to prove an iota of evidence the Iranian lobby is not as influential, large or as powerful as AIPAC. I didn't make the contention you parrots did. My contention fro the get go is by default the Iranian lobby has paid off Clinton while AIPAC has not which necessarily means its contributions have to be larger. Even a brain damaged individual can figure that one out.

You want to play semantics with me. Do I look like I am playing. I have exposed your bilge. The Arab and Iranian lobbies do no differently than AIPAC. This anti semitic bilge that Jews control the world, the West, the US is just that, rancid, baseless, unproven, recycled anti semitic sewage.

Instead of coming up with these idiotic connotations answer the question and don't act like a twit....

You are the one with the the claim that iranian lobby in US is bigger than AIPAC. No one else made such claim...I asked you very politely to provide a source and you cannot because it is a lie and that shows lack of integrity for not backing up what you started. Instead you went on a rant and a long winded essay...and now turning this around and asking for proof that iranian lobby is smaller than AIPAC. That's pathetic!

Oye, my garden is smaller than yours. There you go that will satisfy your ego...

Edited May 8, 2016 by kactus

[BC_chick]

I have not made any claims on this thread (or if I did, please quote my claim). I'm not sure what you want me to back up.

As for YOUR claim which I asked you to back up, here it is:

Rue, on 29 Apr 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

He's well aware that Iran's lobby group is larger than AIPAC's and is funding Hilary Clinton's campaign.

[BC_chick]

The mods must really like you Rue.

They didn't let Hal get away with making unsubstantiated claims.

[Rue]

BC Chick you baiting is pathetic. Your juvenile comments about the moderators speaks for itself.

The bottom line is you start what you don't finish. You Lactus, Marcus, Hudson, you chirp and cheep about Jews controlling the West and you have zero proof. You then try engage me in a pathetic juvenile attempt at claiming I must prove the Iranian lobby is bigger than AIPAC's. Lol what juvenile baiting.

You are well aware the Iranian lobby, the Saudi Lobby, the oil lobby behind the Saudi Arabians, are as powerful as any alleged Jew who controls the West. What a crock to try engage me in this fake debate about having to prove the size of Iran's lobby What a pathetic joke.

Bottom line is very simple, Iran's lobby is as effective as Israel's. So is Saudi Arabia's. You have zero proof, zero that Aipac or Jews have power or influence over Americans or the West any different than anyone else.

You have zero proof. What you do have is pathetic attempts to bait me and ignore the cites I have provided.

What you have done is hide behind a pathetic passive aggressive game that you don't jave to prove anything but I do. Wrong. You opened your mouth and made a claim. You claim I can't prove the Iran loby is bigger thn AIPAC's. That's the pathetic baiting you play.

I say this one last time-size? Is this what you think determines strength and influence? Is this the purile game of semantics you want to play with me? Iran's lobby is no different in size or influence than AIPAC's. Now put up or shup up. Prove me wrong. Put up or shut up. I have provided cite after cite indicating the power and lobbying of Iran. What have you provided? Well? What have any of you provided on this thread other than pathetic attempts to bait me and claim the moderators favour me because you can't censor me with complaints? Lol.

Iran's lobby is as powerful and has been as successful at changing US foreign policy as AIPAC. In fact it has succeeded in defeating AIPAC in getting sanctions removed.

It has done so by bribing Clinton, Biden, Obama, and Kerry.

Its used bribery and influence peddling the very things you accuse AIPAC of and you have nothing, absolutely nothing to repudiate what I have shown, not a damn thing so you are left chirping that I can't prove the Iran loby isbigger than AIPAC's. I have proven it is just s powerful. That was the point. I have proven out of default since it has paid off Clinton and AIPAC has not, necessarily it has mo enfluence over her at this point.

You have something to repudiate what I said-put up or shut up.

Now go chirp on this:http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/193235/meet-the-iran-lobby

Edited May 8, 2016 by Rue

[BC_chick]

The bottom line is you start what you don't finish. You Lactus, Marcus, Hudson, you chirp and cheep about Jews controlling the West and you have zero proof. You then try engage me in a pathetic juvenile attempt at claiming I must prove the Iranian lobby is bigger than AIPAC's. Lol what juvenile baiting.

This is pure slander. Show me one post of mine where I said this or I will report you.

You are well aware the Iranian lobby, the Saudi Lobby, the oil lobby behind the Saudi Arabians, are as powerful as any alleged Jew who controls the West. What a crock to try engage me in this fake debate about having to prove the size of Iran's lobby What a pathetic joke.

Bottom line is very simple, Iran's lobby is as effective as Israel's.

That is not what you said earlier, you said they are more effective and you have yet to show any evidence for it.

[BC_chick]

What you have done is hide behind a pathetic passive aggressive game that you don't jave to prove anything but I do. Wrong. You opened your mouth and made a claim.

Where is the post where I made a claim and what was it????

[Rue]

This is pure slander. Show me one post of mine where I said this or I will report you.

That is not what you said earlier, you said they are more effective and you have yet to show any evidence for it.

I will ignore all your juvenile baiting but one comment. Of course Iran was more effective in its latest lobbying canmpaign than AIPAC and if you can't grasp why go ask someone else. I do not have the patience for your childish denials and comments.

[Rue]

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2009/02/25/rise-of-the-iran-lobby/

http://mehr.org/index_lobby_english.htm

https://counterjihadreport.com/tag/iran-lobby/

http://www.rdfi.org/pdf/iranlobby2.pdf

https://whatyouthoughtiwentaway.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/bill-clinton-got-iran-lobby-offer-before-hillary-iran-negotiations/

http://www.wnd.com/2004/10/27016/

Evewrything, absolutely everything I said about the Iranian lobby is repeated in the above cites.

Unlike BC Chick, Kactus, Hudson Jones, I do not come on this board, make sweeping statements that Iran is not as effective a lobby as Israel with zero proof. I back up what I said word for word.

I repeat it again- and if BC Chick wants to deny what she is supporting and accuse me of being a favourite of moderators then threatening to try shut me up by complaining to the moderators I say this loud and clear-knock off the juvenile petulant threats-I did not come on this board to engage in semantics and juvenile name calling and accusations-I backed up what I said-I said and I repeat it again-Iran paid off Clinton, AIPAC never did. Iran has Kerry, Obama and Clinton in their back pocket, AIPAC does not. Thr Iranian lobby as I have shown is just as effective if not more effective than AIPAC in defeating AIPAC's attempt to keep sanctions against Iran in place. That is public fact. Only a fool would deny that.

If AIPAC had the power spewed out in the anti semitic drivel on this forum that accuses JEWS of controlling the West sanctions would never have been lifted on Iran. It is an absolute lie, a crock of steaming horse dung to suggest AIPAC was able to control the West and does. It is an out and out baseless lie. Iran's lobby was able to win Obama over and Obama's anti Israel position has been crystal clear for 8 years.

The decision to kiss up to Iran started with Zbigniew Brezinski who from his days as Carter's anti semitic, anti Jewish adviser, has believed the no.1 all of the US should be Iran not Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel or even Turkey.

That is fact. It is there for anyone to find. Brezinski's strai of anti semitism is there for anyone to read. he has never hidden his pathetic WW2 Polish anti semitism-something former Presiswbr Lach Walesa came out and denounced. Brezinski is considered a neo Nazi traitor by Poles. he echos a cold war strain of anti Russian anti communist belief that Ukraine, Poland, Finland, Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania have all rejected.

The activities of the Iranian lobby which are no different than AIPAC's were able to get an alliance between Obama and Iran which has empowered the fascist regime of Iran to keep its students and dissidents down and out. Obama is the biggest sell out of any US President. He sold out the democratic movement in Iran and turned the financial taps back on in Iran for what? His short sighted policies now enable the world's no.1 financier of terrorism to have access to billions of dollars now. Obama sold out the Middle East to Iran along with Europe.

Its a crass attempt by Obama to counter Russian and Chinese influence over Iran and its failed. Iran openly ridicules Obama as a sell out fool.

Hilary Clinton in an effort to try regain votes lost to Obama's disasterous foreign policy has made two speeches barking at Iran while at the same time accepting funds from the Iran lobby.

AIPAC's power if it had any came from aligning itself with the US military industrial alliance complex. Without mutual intrerests where AIPAC can line up with that complex, it has no more power than anyone else and in f act does not have the power of the oil lobby that is lined up with Saudi Arabia and traditionally had the ear of the Reagans and Bushes.

Obama made it vividly clear he was anti Israel. from day one. Kerry's brother in law is an Iranian lobbyist and operative for the Iran lobby. Joe Biden, the Clinton Foundation, Obama, Hilary and Bill all have taken money from Iran, Saudi Arabia and other Arab lobby groups.

AIPAC has not provided a penny to Clinton nor will they. Right now they do not like either Trump or Clinton. They are left with no presumptive candidate they trust. Iran is just fine with Clinton and so is Saudi Arabia. Egypt and Jordan as well as Israel have distanced themselves from Clinton because of her support of the PA and Hamas.

She can try sound tough all she wants, Hilary Clinton openly feuded with Bill Clinton over her support of Arafat and now her support of Abbas who is a lame duck with no power.

Tzipi Livni who at one point Clinton tried to cultivate as an ally distanced herself from her. So did Shimon Peres. There is no Israeli politician at this time who wants anything to do with Clinton and they find Trump to much of a wild card and unstable.

The Israelis would have preferred Jeb Bush as their choice, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Paul Ryan, none of them candidates that could have won.

The Israelis are holding their nose knowing they are on the outside looking in and the best they can do is try line up US Republican Senator support because Trump and Clinton are foreign policy wild cards. No one controls them.

As for the idiotic claim Europe is controlled by Israel no one in Europe supports Israel certainly not the British, French or anyone else. Germany has tried to remain a supporter of Israel and Iran at the same time imitating what China does but its domestic policies are heavily influenced by Muslim extremist politics. Sweden is out and out anti Israeli. Poland and Ukraine are the only two European countries who do not hide their support of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish nation. Even Holland a loyal Israeli ally has had a rise in leftist anti semitic politics.

To even suggest the European Union supports Israel is extreme idiocy. It supports and encourages the BDS movement and has called for unilateral withdrawal to 1967 borders with no assurances that terrorists first be disarmed or without any assurance a Jewish state be recognized.

To claim this is under the spell of Israel is such a crock it is unbelievable such drivel would be passed off on this forum.

Since WW2 the European Union has never supported Israel, ever.

Edited May 9, 2016 by Rue

[kactus]

I will ignore all your juvenile baiting but one comment. Of course Iran was more effective in its latest lobbying canmpaign than AIPAC and if you can't grasp why go ask someone else. I do not have the patience for your childish denials and comments.

Not only you have lied on this forum but the very fact that you refuse to admit it makes you a laughing stock....Pathetic!

[Argus]

Not only you have lied on this forum but the very fact that you refuse to admit it makes you a laughing stock....Pathetic!

How exactly do you measure whether the "zionist lobby" or the "iranian lobby" are more powerful? And why does it seem so desperately important to people who use words like "zionist" when they mean "Jew" to discredit the idea the Iranian lobby is a powerful organization in the US?

I mean, it sounds like, if you don't discredit the idea then your whole world view of the worldwide Jewish conspiracy might be in danger.

Edited May 10, 2016 by Argus

[marcus]

He's well aware that Iran's lobby group is larger than AIPAC's and is funding Hilary Clinton's campaign.

Rue, you continue to spread misinformation, despite the facts. Links to wordpress sites are not helping.

There are many more pro-Zionist lobby groups and multi-billionaires who fund AIPAC and who pour money into U.S. politics in order to continue to have influence/control over them.

The numbers don't lie. Here are the facts that smash the misinformation you continuously spread:

Compared that to the MILLIONS given to both Democrats and Republicans at different levels and it shows the pure fantasy you're trying to spread.

Here is Hillary's Israeli Firster bankroller, Saban's contribution in just one year:

Saban and his wife, Cheryl, are Hillary Clinton’s top financial backers, having given $2,046,600 to support her political campaigns and at least $10 million more to the Clinton Foundation, on whose board Cheryl Saban sits.

Really?

Check out the conspiracy theories here, from Saban himself:

An extensive New Yorker profile of Saban recalls how Saban publicly described his “three ways to be influential in American politics” in 2009. One was political donations. Another was establishing think tanks (he founded the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution in 2002). And the third was controlling media outlets.

Pro-Israel? YOU BETCHA! Controlling Politics? OOOOOH YEAH!

The New York Times reported in 2009 that Saban was apparently part of a scheme before the 2006 Democratic takeover of Congress in which Saban would threaten then-Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi that he would withhold donations if Pelosi didn’t make then-Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., chair of the House Intelligence Committee. (In return, according to the Times report, which was based on telephone calls intercepted by the National Security Agency, Harman would lobby the Bush administration for leniency for two pro-Israel lobbyists under investigation for espionage. Harman denied ever speaking to the Justice Department about the case, but did not address whether she contacted any White House officials.)

What does this billionaire who controls Hillary Clinton think, as according to himself?

“I’m a one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel.”

On top of that, and Sheldon Adelson, the Republican bankroller, you also have the countless Pro-Israel lobby groups. Here is a chart showing Pro-Israel donation to both the democrats and republicans, which gives you a pretty good idea of the influence they can buy.

Edited May 10, 2016 by marcus

[kactus]

How exactly do you measure whether the "zionist lobby" or the "iranian lobby" are more powerful?

Ask the expert here RUE (Mr Know It All) who came up with the claim "Iranian lobby is greater than AIPAC"!!! Yes, you can already smell it....

Edited May 10, 2016 by kactus

[Big Guy]

Bibi Netanyahu decided to take his policies outside his office for discussion. He actually asked people what they think of his policies:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/05/benjamin-netanyahu-ridiculed-twitter-qa-160512095845756.html

Looks like opening his views to the world is a mistake.

[Hudson Jones]

Bibi Netanyahu decided to take his policies outside his office for discussion. He actually asked people what they think of his policies:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/05/benjamin-netanyahu-ridiculed-twitter-qa-160512095845756.html

Looks like opening his views to the world is a mistake.

Hilarious. Here are some of them:

* which war crime is your favorite hobby? #AskNetanyahu

* #AskNetanyahu How can you have a Democracy and Apartheid coexist at the same moment?

* Does it bother you that history will remember you as a racist, war criminal and mass murderer? #AskNetanyahu

* Why did Israeli soldiers, in their own words, "shoot at random civilian targets, just for fun", during the 2014 Gaza war? #AskNetanyahu

* Did the Mufti make you make this hashtag? #AskNetanyahu

* Which part of your job is more satisfying? Blowing up kids in your concentration camp or torturing kids in your jails? #AskNetanyahu

[jacee]

Did Netanyahu actually answer any of the questions? :-)

[kactus]

Did Netanyahu actually answer any of the questions? :-)

It's just a political stunt that has backfired on him. I don't think he has the stomach to capture these audience.

[kactus]

Back to the topic. Actually to every single Israeli I have debated on this forum and elsewhere they have the tendency to link NIAC with the Iranian regime which is totally false allegation. This lobby wants to promote a better relationship between Iran and the US. If they have achieved that goal good for them. Better than the hawks and maniacs who advocate war and killings of innocent people.

[GostHacked]

How exactly do you measure whether the "zionist lobby" or the "iranian lobby" are more powerful? And why does it seem so desperately important to people who use words like "zionist" when they mean "Jew" to discredit the idea the Iranian lobby is a powerful organization in the US?

I mean, it sounds like, if you don't discredit the idea then your whole world view of the worldwide Jewish conspiracy might be in danger.

Not all Zionist are Jews. And not all Jews are Zionists. Otherwise we are simply throwing out blanket statements that makes one look like an idiot.

Edited May 14, 2016 by GostHacked

[kactus]

Not all Zionist are Jews. And not all Jews are Zionists. Otherwise we are simply throwing out blanket statements that makes one look like an idiot.

I don't see anything wrong with your statement but some consider even what you say here as "anti semitism" which is absurd...

Edited May 14, 2016 by kactus